Yeah not thrilled. Hopefully they can collect 78,000 signatures and then we get to vote on it.

 

And if we vote it down the Legislature will over ride us and put an Emergency clause on it and we will still be stuck with it.

 

Oh what's so very special about this Special Session.
They're coming back next year and raising taxes and fees again.
They've made public statements that this is a stop gap measure.
We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
How long before this thread is deleted?
It's 0553, it won't last till 0800.

 

I shining example of why we left Oregon. No more vehicle fees from us. And even when we have to travel there, we use transfer tanks to avoid buying any fuel there.

 

Just what the State and the Tax Payers needs, another 20 people on the dole.

 

20 more shovel leaner ready jobs

 

20 plus. it is always less than they claim. union seat polishers run the state

 

Thanks DGB for getting my blood flowing this morning. I feel great. I gotta go find a petition to sign. 😀🇺🇸

 

Pis ses (can't even post the word ****es) me off. It's all about ODOT continuing to fund projects and programs they have no business being involved in. The other day I watched a news story about A $500,000.00 hiking path in Happy Valley that was fully funded by ODOT.

 

****es me off. It all about ODOT continuing to fund projects and programs they have no business being involved in. The other day I watched a news story about A $500,000.00 hiking path in Happy Valley that was fully funded by ODOT.

Hiking path? You mean urban campground.

 

Pretty sure our payroll tax went up as well.

 

WELL GET OUT AND SIGN THE PETITION IF THEY GET ONE OUT! I'm going to be looking for one.

 

Agreed, unfortunately a common tactic to keep this from failing is the governor delaying signing. The 90 days is after legislative session ends, but can't be started till bill is signed into law. She has 30 days to sign it, so that cuts our time to get the signatures from 90 to 60 days.

Funny, it was "imperative" we get this done according to them, but my guess is she will take the full 30 days.

 

Voted it in Vote You out!!

 

Anyone surprised?

Anyone?

 

Nope. Wrote my state senator multiple times. Big companies doing layoffs in her district (Intel, Nike, Edwards). She doesn't care & proceeds as we are not even here.

 

Best states for taxes | Fidelity

Find out what people are paying in the lowest- and highest-tax states.

www.fidelity.com

 

At least the Ducks are winning ! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Won't be long and more Duck fans will live out of state than in state due to OR taxes and cost of living.

 

On the low tax states, is that due in large part because of sales tax instead of income tax? I can't imagine California being a low tax state... Washington isn't any better, but the chart shows it being so...

 

Negative, it includes all taxes. They say California is a lower tax state for married couples as compared to single. Take a look at the Fidelity link at the bottom, very insightful.

 

According to Grok, which I guess doesn't really surprise most people.

California is not one of the lowest-taxed states in the US. In fact, it consistently ranks among the highest based on overall state and local tax burdens, income tax rates, and sales tax rates. This perception might stem from myths about California's progressive tax system being "moderate" for low-income households (due to rebates and exemptions), but even then, it doesn't qualify as low-taxed compared to national averages.
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If you're in a specific income bracket or tax type, California might feel less burdensome than stereotyped—but it's objectively high-taxed. For personalized estimates, tools like the Tax Foundation's calculator can help.

I think it's like the best place to live rankings. It depends on what you include in the ranking.

 

Looking only at income taxes tells you about income taxes, which is naturally what an investment firm would focus on

When total tax burden is considered, Oregon is middle of the pack. Google your favorite source. Total burden is calculated various ways and Oregon typically resides between #20 and #30 out of all 50 states. The Tax Foundation website mentioned above is one example of this

 

Middle of the pack on average because 40% of the population doesn't pay much of anything. I can assure you Oregon, especially tri-county is very high for the business owners that create jobs and get **** done.

 

You guys defending this fleecing must not pay crap in taxes.

 

more of trying to understand the comparisons. doesn't really matter if Oregon taxes more or less than others when you see the big negative on your paycheck I suppose.

 

That map doesn't tell the whole story. Texas has no income tax, but dear heavens, the property taxes really stung when I lived there.

 

local news reported the state passed a 6 cents a gallon tax the effecta all the fuel the state uses. that seems like a law written by morons

 

Add to this the Oregon inheritance tax. Absolutely the worst of all 50 states. Why high income earners live in Oregon is beyond me. If I was them, I'd be gone. The state finds any and every way they can think of to relieve you of your money, including the hidden sales tax on luxery items, obviously for the greater good.

 

You're so lucky they did. At an average of 40 gals used a month that comes out to a whopping $2.40 or less than you spend for a latte. Add in your registration renewal every two years which comes to another $1.80 a month or one cup of coffee. And for that all you get is roads plowed, pot holes patched, guardrails repaired, flooded roads drained and the not inconsequential benefit to everyone of the $5,000,000 of income for the jobs saved that will be spent right here in Oregon. BTW, if you don't like it move to Wshington and pay 20 cents/gal more or California and pay 30 cents/gal more

 

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The state (any state) will always expect people to do more with less, as they do less with more. This bill won’t improve transportation maintenance or infrastructure any more than the inflation reduction act had a positive effect on inflation. The state is not in the business of solving problems, but rather managing problems. Every problem is an opportunity to justify the relevance of an existing bureaucracy, or to create a new one. No one should be surprised by any additional tax, fee, or reduction services, access or opportunity. The “if you don’t like it, then move” , or “ at least it’s better than (fill in the blank)” response is tragically comical because it perpetuates grift.

 

If one is taxed a fixed amount per gallon or car, this in no way grows in relation to inflation and cost of building and maintaining our transportation infrastructure. So I would expect an occasional increase in these rates just to keep up what we have, much less growing that infrastructure to meet increasing needs of our population.

 

Yes they need more and I'll tell you why. On 224 there was some construction on one end was a 1 ton Ford with a little trailer hooked to it with a little arm that went up and down with a red and green light. Sitting in the State Ford truck was a man with the windows rolled up playing with his phone. It was a hot day so I'm thinking the motor was running for the AC. On the other end of the construction was another 1 ton Ford with a little trailer with an arm and lights with the man doing the same thing windows up and playing with his phone. So I was wondering how much cheaper would it be to hire a private company with a person with a sign and a bottle of water and a little radio?

 

Take a look at other vehicles when you drive and I am surprised at how many have expired tags. I guess it is because they know that there is little chance of getting a ticket for that. With fees increasing, even more will drive with expired tags so revenue will not go up as much as anticipated. I would also bet many with expired tags don't have insurance.

 

I drove with expired tags for almost 3 years. I couldn't get passed deq. After one stint at the mechanic for over a week he couldn't get it passed. Next steps were very expensive so I just drove it, nothing was functionally wrong with the car. Got pulled over once and just explained what was going on, I use it as a commuter to and from work and had my insurance and DL, he said on your marry way dont worry about it. DEQ is no longer needed with modern computer controlled cars. Older cars will age out. Just another money grab. But yea, if your nice to the cops and follow the only break 1 law at a time rule they dont seem to care too much, im sure theres bigger fish to fry.