[HuskyKMA]

Oregons new fuel tax must of kicked in as yesterday Costco in Warrenton was at $4.09 a gallon. At least it's not like Washington that will soon have a payment plan at the pump when you fill up.
As for rail verse trucks remember all those rails to trail projects we now have that once transported product economically. We had spur lines to most small towns even Astoria and Seaside had rail. Then the subsides ended and those spur lines were scraped. You can now blame trucking for our roads but without trucks those overnight Amazon deliveries would be history. Raising the rate for trucks based on tonnage will only increase product prices that you and I will end up paying for. I look at this way our roads are going to hell and costing more to repair but is that not subsidizing trucking similar to what we did with rail transport. If you want to blame a segment of transportation, blame the huge money pit light rail has become. The users of light rail come nowhere close to paying for its operation much less expansion. It seems like our state highway maintenance doesn't even try to save on costs. Yesterday and many other days I've seen WDOT using automated signals for one way traffic around their work area. But if you start looking, you'll see a WDOT employee standing by each light doing nothing and sometimes a pilot car with driver parked nearby. I asked one employee why are you at the light when its automated. He said just in case someone drives around the light instead of stopping. So how is that employee going help in that situation as I can't see him running to catchup with the car. Its a joke but an expensive joke played on the taxpayer.

The pipeline is down. Went down last week. It was the main source of gas for PDX from the refineries around Puget Sound.

ETA: Sorry should have read Snopro's reply first, he mentioned it.

 

[schaeway]

Just went to Los Angeles area and paid $4.99.9 for regular. Headed to Az and waited to cross the state line before filling up again, paid $2.96.9.

 

[DogZilla15]

Current price in Podunk MT. Reg. $2.89, Diesel $3.28.

 

[NorthPlainsDrifter]

Just came back from Maui, their gas is the same price as Oregon. You would think Oregon could beat that price after shipping it across a ocean.

 

[derrick454@]

Agreed. We were Boise area earlier this summer. While it was 3.99 here it was 2.81 there. Our state and local gas taxes (not sure what theirs is) doesn’t make up for the $+1.00 more a gallon here. We’re getting…. [insert expletive].

We haven’t had cheap gas since 23-24.
Idaho is paying the price due to being neighbors with Washington/Oregon and their climate B.S…..Most gas here comes from Anacortes refineries….
Although I was getting gas for the same price as Idaho in Baker city Oregon 4 weeks ago….so Oregon not as crappy as WASHINGTON.
The limited refining is hurting and California is continuing to shut more down.
I can get gas cheaper in Anchorage Alaska

 

[derrick454@]

Current price in Podunk MT. Reg. $2.89, Diesel $3.28.

That’s what Idaho used to be. Something fishy going on. They blame WASHINGTON…I’ll point my fingers in that direction too thanks Olympia

 

[derrick454@]

Current price in Podunk MT. Reg. $2.89, Diesel $3.28.

All those telsa drivers west of the Montana border are laughing now. All the western states including Nevada are up over 3.50…
Till it’s get 15 F out. Not so funny then

 

[DogZilla15]

Yea, we don’t see any EV’s in Podunk. It’s GMC truck country.

 

[joeer77]

Current price in Podunk MT. Reg. $2.89, Diesel $3.28.

All those telsa drivers west of the Montana border are laughing now. All the western states including Nevada are up over 3.50…
Till it’s get 15 F out. Not so funny then

Those a-holes need to realize that gas & diesel affects the price of groceries and goods. No escape from trucking and rail and farming prices.

 

[joeer77]

Just read the transportation bill (gas tax) vote has been delayed until Sept 29th FYI.

 

[derrick454@]

The pipeline is down. Went down last week. It was the main source of gas for PDX from the refineries around Puget Sound.

ETA: Sorry should have read Snopro's reply first, he mentioned it.

It’s back up now I believe. Standard procedure. We just get busier and use more barges when they are down. We normally keep up unless coastal weather is a factor….
People don’t realize the amount of gasoline and diesel that is ALSO transported via ocean going barges from Anacortes/Ferndale.
They always use pipeline down for an excuse……

 

[HeavyMetal BankFisherman]

Price should go down now that we've taken the first shipment of imported gasoline from Nigeria. Some in positions of authority will preach national security and energy independence and some will believe them. In the end it's all about profits and anyone saying anything else is lying as is proven by the United States importing gasoline from Africa. Buy low, sell high. Make profit. LOL...

"The tanker Gemini Pearl delivered approximately 320,000 barrels of gasoline to Sunoco’s terminal in Linden, New Jersey, on Monday."

"Two more shipments are scheduled for this month."

"To date, it has shipped roughly 1.7 million barrels of jet fuel to U.S. ports across six vessels, further cementing its growing role in international energy trade."

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/vitol-sunoco-take-first-gasoline-cargo-nigerias-dangote-us-sources-say-2025-09-15/

First Nigerian Gasoline Cargo Arrives in U.S. | OilPrice.com

The Dangote refinery has delivered its first gasoline cargo to the United States, marking a major milestone for Nigeria’s fuel export ambitions.

oilprice.com

Dangote Refinery lands first U.S. gasoline sales after meeting strict fuel standards

Nigeria’s Dangote Refinery has cleared a major hurdle on its path to global relevance, securing its first U

africa.businessinsider.com

 

[sprigdog]

I'm driving around central Florida coast this week on vacation and seeing $2.82 per gallon at 7-Eleven. $2.72 at Costco.

Oregon just likes to kick itself in the nuts is all you can say.

Is Florida one of those southern red states that blue states prop up?

 

[joeer77]

Is Florida one of those southern red states that blue states prop up?

I doubt it. Comparing GDPs, Oregon #25 & Florida is #4.

All 50 US States Ranked by GDP [Report 2024]

Check out the data of all US states ranked by GDP and find out how well your state is doing for the economy.

usabynumbers.com

 

[rollcast]

I doubt it. Comparing GDPs, Oregon #25 & Florida is #4.

All 50 US States Ranked by GDP [Report 2024]

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What you care about is GDP per capita. Oregon is 29th and Florida is 35th. Washington is 4th per capita!

India's GDP is trillions but terrible on a per capita basis - they are a poor country. Absolute GDP is not meaningful.

 

[Han Solo]

"But would you agree they need to pay a road tax of sorts like everyone else? I'm not aware that EV owners pay anything toward roads right now, and they are/were subsidized for their EV purchase.

Everybody gotta pay yo! 😉"

Got news for you the registration fee is the taxing point for EV drivers. That was a pretty quick answer to the growing EV fleet by the hydrocarbon vendors. We pay just shy of 900 a year to license two EVs in Washington. But I don't play the victim on gas prices anymore. Boat fuel is a luxury not a necessity so we pay the taxes grudgingly. You are not helpless, there is another way to do personal transportation. Fuel has been cheapest in Newport of all places $0.50 to $0.75 a gallon cheaper than the valley for several years now. I fill the truck and boat there.

 

[Old Coot]

In July the US exported an average of 3.1 million barrels of oil per day. That was the lowest monthly figure since 2021.

 

[joeer77]

Prices finally starting to drop slowly. Still ridiculous.