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Onboard Cleaning (Gutting) Ocean Salmon

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#1 Ā·
Don't want to hijack the 'salmon fillet" thread, so......


This is a reminder for some, new for others.

For the best quality, ocean-caught salmon should be properly bled, and gutted soon after landing. Gut contents can begin to decompose quickly, and in some cases will damage the meat. This is especially a concern if fish have been feeding on krill. You will know they are feeding on krill by the reddish-orange fluid draining from the vent.


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I'm not exactly sure what the chemistry / biology is, but partially digested krill causes some kind of bacteria / spoilage reaction. Warmer temperatures (either no ice, or simply a warm day) will accelerate it




After gutting, you may now pack in ice (especially the belly). Now you have little to no blood in your ice chest; just beautiful product.


When gutting salmon, be sure to remove excess blood by scraping / pushing the veins along the rib bones by using the back of the spoon or blade. This is demonstrated in this video

https://youtu.be/u9bz9ZPOTMc?t=3m25s

Note how they are using a small hose at the 3:45 mark, to push water into the circulatory system & flush out the blood. This method is detailed here:

http://www.washingtontrollers.org/cleaning.htm


Do you want your pictures to say: "I care about my fish so I clean them on the ocean"
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Or do you want them to say: "My fish had a belly full of krill for 6 hours"
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(btw, note the use of a Swiss Army Knife. if you don't want to spend the $10 on a salmon knife with built in spoon, just tie an old spoon to the handle of a short knife).
 
#3 Ā·
Yes
 
#4 Ā·
I couldn't agree more with Mark Mc.

I cringe every time I walk past the cleaning station. As a sport fisherman, you get to control the quality of the product you put on your table. Why wouldn't you do everything in your power to get the highest quality possible.

While it's certainly most important for ocean salmon, it's important of all salmon. An average day at Buoy 10, the water is 70+ degrees and the air temp is 70+ degrees. Your fish NEED to be chilled. Gutting the fish allows for the ice to be placed in the center of the fish, which will cool them faster. Would you leave a freshly caught fish on your kitchen counter for a few hours until you got around to processing it? Well, don't do the same thing on your boat!

Gutting also allows for minimal mess when filleting them. Buy your self a cutting board and fillet your fish at home where you can control the sanitation better than at a public cleaning station. Heads and tails are easily frozen for crab bait, composted, or tossed.

We are blessed to have world class fish here, so treat them like it!
 
#5 Ā·
Marc thanks for bringing this up. When I commercial fished we would catch 20 then clean, rotate with the crew so we all got our turn. We had a nifty little cleaning station.
My NR is set up different and I am going to get a cleaning station built. I have been lazy and had done some cleaning and let some go. Slap my hands. My partner in the boat thinks it is over kill but I have to agree it is important to take care of the fish just like big game.

Joe Evens gave me the same information concerning bottom fish and the movement of worms from the insides out and to ice them asap.
So from now on a cooler with ice goes into the boat. I usually club to get under control so that they bleed real good and then will ice immediately. The quality of fish is the important part. I'm not sure if I have time for the water jet or truly understand how to use it. Maybe a demonstration?
 
#6 Ā· (Edited)
Force or pressure bleeding is worth the time. This is the best video I've seen so far. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to do it either. Look at what is coming from his bleeding hose, and you'll see the left hand kind of milking the body too. Lots of nasty comes out of each fish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVCHSK2QdE

This one is pretty basic but still shows how and another option or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2LxcKIKO8I

Another option if you don't want to mount a hose and pump on your boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ygTtzrv3w8



Owl
 
#7 Ā·
The pipette is a new level for me, but we've done the gill and gut, remove the bloodline (or kidneys), and ice for many years now. I followed the same advice about gilling, gutting, and removing the bloodline from 2 people I consider to have expert knowledge on caring for fish. I think all of us have sharp knives onboard, it's easy to add a spoon for removing the bloodline, and I think (and hope!) we all have ice for our fish. One part of how it improves the quality is it also improves how well it keeps. Absolutely worth doing.

Guess I need to find out more about the pipette.
ron m
 
#9 Ā·
Thank you Dave, All! :flowered:

By the way, I learned this the hard way. For my first 10 years charter & commercial fishing, I never had a "known" issue with salmon quality. Then on one particular trip....involving a large number of biting fish....that happened to be full of krill.....and not keeping up with the gutting..... I got a phone call several hours after delivery, explaining that I would not get paid for about half the load because they were "belly burned."

I felt devastated, and that lesson stuck with me. So I can share it as in "don't do what I did."

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#15 Ā·
I have always been so surprised that the normal salmon fisherman does not clean and ice there fish! All commercial salmon trollers do, or the processors will not buy them. My brother and I have always quickly bled, gutted and moved them to an ice chest. Just normal stuff. sort of like Tuna.
thank you Mark. Black Bolt Jr. doug L
 
#17 Ā·
I have always been so surprised that the normal salmon fisherman does not clean and ice there fish! All commercial salmon trollers do, or the processors will not buy them. My brother and I have always quickly bled, gutted and moved them to an ice chest. Just normal stuff. sort of like Tuna.
thank you Mark. Black Bolt Jr. doug L
Not all trollers ice them, our boats that day fished cleaned and kept under
burlap sacks and they were always mint when they hit the dock.
Great post from Mark !! as always !!!
 
#21 Ā·
Despite not following all commercial handling practices, I consistently observe that the product I produce is far better than anything I can buy.

When I lived in CA, we gutted, gilled and tail cut every fish as soon as it stopped flopping. When I came here, nobody did that, at least that I saw. I stopped gutting fish, and I haven't seen belly burn except one time, and that was when I bought 3 whole reds from Fred Meyer. And those fish were gutted and gilled, although I have no idea how long after capture.

Your mileage may vary. I wouldn't stop anyone from gutting fish at sea, but I am not going back to it.
 
#23 Ā·
Might want to work on having the regulations changed. Right now it states that you can not mutalate fish to where the sex or size cannot be determined so we are essentially breaking the law
 
#25 Ā·
That's b.s. Hank. Ocean-caught salmon have not returned to the river to spawn yet. Therefore they have not had sex yet. Therefore sex has been determined: "none"