It has been discussed (at nausea) recently

 

That is crazy! You guys have people who pump gas for you?! But I would assume they are trying to stop spill overs??

 

No, they are trying to increase the circulation of change. You see, it only costs a penny for the US to make a quarter and that means $.24 profit. Oregon is just trying to do her part in keeping change in high demand.

 

Top Off Ban ****FOUND ON OREGON DEQ WEB PAGE

Generally topping off is when, in the absence of equipment malfunction, an attendant continues to fill a gasoline tank after the nozzle has clicked off. If an attendant can confirm that a vehicle tank is not full after the click off, the attendant may continue to dispense fuel using best judgment and caution to prevent a spill.

• Beginning July 1, 2009, topping off vehicle fuel tanks during refueling will no longer be allowed. Topping off causes several problems, including gasoline drips and spills that release harmful pollution, wasted fuel, and malfunction of vapor recovery equipment in vehicles and at gas pumps.

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  [*]The new prohibition on topping off or overfilling vehicles involves a period of learning and behavior change, both for businesses and customers. Below, DEQ has provided a PDF of a “No Topping Off” sign for gasoline distribution facilities.

 

I brought this topic up last year before I knew anything about thiss new law. There was a good amount of discussion.

This is my take:

Besides the environmental issues that have been noted. Newer model vehicles have a charcoal canister at the top of the fuel tube. It helps with over fills. If topped off too much/often it can become saturated and cause damage to your vehicle. If the pump is working properly. It will stop when it is supposed to stop. But, some older vehicles or ones with gas gauge problems could be exceptions. If the attendant can verifiy that the tank is indeed not "full". Then they can continue to dispense.
MORC

 

I pump my own gas on a motorbike.. did 4 fill ups yesterday in Oregon, and all at different stations.. 3 of which the attendant never even came out.

When I am driving my truck and someone gives me flack about it, i just tell em i work at a gas station and pump gas for a living.

No problems.

 

I pump my own, and if I want to top it off I well and do, if a drop falls on the ground, O WELL, I paid for it.

 

When does the tax increase start to pay for the new pump police??

 

Does anyone know the penalty for topping off illegally? So far no one has been able to tell me. Will the gas station get fined, the attenant fired??? Anyone know?

 

Does anyone know the penalty for topping off illegally? So far no one has been able to tell me. Will the gas station get fined, the attenant fired??? Anyone know?

From quote by Dept of Environmental Quality spokesperson:

When it comes to enforcing the new rule, the state would first send warnings to gas stations that are repeat offenders. Only in the most extreme cases would they issue a minor penalty, said William Knight, a spokesman for the Department of Environmental Quality.
"We wouldn't be talking thousands of dollars or attendants jailed or anything like that," Knight said.
The department warns that topping off can spill excess gasoline and release benzene and other toxins into the air.
And the agency said modern pumps don't allow extra fuel to feed into the tank anyway, which can lead to customers getting charged for fuel they don't get.
"Topping off the tank helps no one, resulting in a high level of benzene exposure for anyone in the immediate area and increased costs to consumers," said Environmental Quality Commission Chair Bill Blosser. "It is clear that through a simple change in procedure at Oregon gas stations we can better protect public health and the environment."

 

knock it if you will, but during the winter when the temp. is at 40 or below, and the rain is coming down sideways cause you have a 25mph wind or greater, its pretty nice to just roll down the window and say fill'er up, and roll the window back up.........or just like the next few days temps running over 100 no wind at all, you pull up ac running full blast.inside the car its a nice 70 degrees and you let joe blow do the work..........so once in a while your tank is not as full as you might want it to be, i think its worth it

 

I tend to hybernate in those temps trust me it does get that cold here in iowa and in my town its all hills so I tend not to go out. they will actually close down town.

 

"Topping Off" is a law that in real life is impossible to inforce. It's a law that is not practical and uninforceable.

Good Luck

 

With out reading all the responses to this post. The one thing that I have become aware of, is that topping off can cause your charcoal canister to become saturated and you are will not run right. My Mother in law just had the problem and it cost her some cash that she would not have had to spend if her car was not topped off at some stations.


Fishalot:twocents:

 

It really just doesn't matter in my opinion.
For the rest you can add it to your issue bag. Hope your back doesn't break, kidding, I hope it does.!

 

I'm not buying the "environment" argument one bit. I've topped off for as long as I've been driving and even used to work in a gas station. Spills simply do not happen if the person pumping the gas has half a brain. assout:

The real reason behind the law is to lighten to workload on the gas station attendants. Now they don't have to spend all that extra time topping off and they can get to the next customer.

I wonder if this will still be the law once Oregon finally trusts it's citizens enough to pump their own. (I'm sorry to say I voted against self serve about a hundred years ago. Boy, I wish I could have that back.)

 

you can say anything that you want but the fact is in oregon I don't have to pump my own gas and I pay less for it than in washington or california.
beat that :applause::applause:

 

Amen!!
They tell us every time this comes up that it will save us money! What a lie. Go fuel up in WA! Pay more to do it yourself.

 

Does anybody here think that each state has a law that specifically "allows" a person to pump their own gas???

I don't know, but I don't think so.

I think in every state but OR and NJ, people think it's their unalienable right to service themselves at gas stations, as it should be...:twocents:

 

Take it for what it's worth but it's not the person pumping your gas that passed this rule, so don't take it out on them. In dealing with public some people don't understand that sometimes you need to follow the rules of the business that you work for and now days there are a lot of people looking to take your job. Example would be if Johnny is an easy going kid that you asked to top off your tank and he does it for you & then the next week or so you come back and ask Jeff to top off, he says no we can't as per law/boss some people will say well Johnny did it last week and then here comes the issues at the business. I guess I'm really stating don't put the person on the spot, and it's not their fault if they really need to follow the rules/laws.