Some people take hunting released birds far to seriously. If he wanted to get to the other end first he should've got there sooner and walked it in the dark.

-Scott

 

The guy hasn't been hunting there long if he is bothered by folks on bikes....
I like eating pheasant so while going to OSU... (10 years ago) me and several other people I saw there rode the roads on bikes looking for birds then would ditch the bike and go flush em... never had anyone get mad about it...
They are just pen raised birds... they are there for us to shoot and eat..
Good job

 

I can't hunt that place because of the amount of poison oak. It's horrible!

And, there's a lot of rebar and other hazards left from the old buildings that could tear up a dog pretty good.

Now that I know there's some dude yelling at other hunters for hunting a release site before he gets his chance...I have another reason not to hunt there.

 

Yes I would agree with you on the extream lack of effort on the part of ODFW to maintain the only place to hunt pheasants with mans best freind in the entire greater metro valley. :thisbig: Why do they keep asking for more and more money while they let the area deteriorate. Thorne bushes are rampant and out of controll with feed field's non exsistant. Bushes have been cut leaving 8" sharp bungi sticks every where that a dog can impale his feet on. They also left cut down thorne bushes all over the place which are easy enough to walk through with boots but darn pain full for a dog even with booties on. I heard multipule complaints from hunters about this.. So So much worse then the sauvies Islands area flash in the pan two week with 4 days on the weekend to get it if you can season- Which is also pathetic on the part of ODFW to not have a longer season on sauives.. Last time I was at ODFW I was shocked to see that there wasnt a parking spot to be had from all the employees they had working there , doing what?? in a bunch of offices??? Raising hunting and fishing licence fees for jobs , sure thats what they do well. I bet if you bussed up the lot of employees at the headquarters on a forced feild trip to ee willison you could have that place policed up in a day. Why cant they make some simple low cost improvements to somthing that would clearly benifit hunters- like extending the sauives island hunt and cultivating ee wilson for bird hunting with some sort of minimum effort so we are not so put off when we hear of impending fee hikes and regulation changes.. Ps I think riding a bike to pheasant hunt is kinda inconsiderate to all the other hunters but in this day and age of take advantage of the system it can only be expected. I just mutter under my breath. This fellow must have lost his filter.

 

It’s to bad you couldn’t have passed along a description to the staff at EE. I’m sure that wouldn’t be tolerated

I also find it unfortunate that he was sporting an OHA hat and giving any false representation of other members.

Keep doing what you’re doing and enjoy your hunt.


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Why are you hunting pheasants on a bike? I'm sure he was mad because he saw you, or has had others, snake birds out from in front of him. Pheasants feeling pressure from hunters and dogs run to the end of a field before they typically fly, as I am sure you are aware. If i were to walk an entire field only to have someone zip in from the bushes on a bike to flush birds I would probably have the same feelings as this guy. Why don't you just walk like everyone else? Where is the fair chase in running down birds from a bike?

 

Where is the fair chase in running down birds from a bike?

I don't believe anywhere in his statement did he say he was hunting from his bike. :flowered:

It comes across, from the information given, that he was traveling faster than another person (on alternate routes, not directly in the same path) and the hunter who was walking (who apparently wanted an entire area to himself) wasn't happy about that. :idea:
OP: you didn't give an age demographic of the other person but it would be easy to guess :wink:

 

Ok,
Op said he got in front of them on his bike. He said the guy complaining said he should "Learn to hunt".

Since I saw someone hunting from a bike there a couple of weeks ago who was carrying a rooster he had shot, since Bloodntheboat said he has hunted there off a bike, Seems like it is not uncommon for folks to hunt off their bike. Seems He was very likely hunting off the bike.

These are pen raised birds. They dont run to the other end of the field. Not sure they run much at all? enough to get off the road. Barely warProbably 25% of the birds I get there I see standing on the road. So I take the dogs there and let them do their thing.

Not sure what the issue is? The only problem i could see was if he saw a bird that someone else had seen and rode past them to get the bird. If thats what he did, then that was wrong.

The guy I saw had a non toxic bike so hes good on that!

I go so the dogs will have fun.

 

Well, as a long time hunter at EE, I can understand both sides to this issue.

As most of you already know, the extensive road system at EE makes it easy to cover lots of ground on a bike. And whenever I see someone on a bike, they aren't hunting with a dog. So there's always that potential for those with a dog and those without to come into conflict. I don't know what transpired between the OP and the hunter in the orange OHA hat. But here's what's happened to me on several occasions.

I was covering a section of ground, roads on 3 sides with my GSP. I spot a hunter on a bike riding on the road to my right. I can see that he's watching me and my dog. He rides out ahead of us and stops at the next intersection with a crossing road. He's just sitting there watching us as we work in the same direction. I recognize what he's doing, he's now on stand while we push thru the field. Two issues here...1) If a bird flushes, I can't shot towards him, 2) He's in a position to take advantage of any birds we do push or flush.

Me and my dog aren't out there working for someone else and I'm really annoyed at this persons tactic of waiting to see what we turn up. Again, I've had this happen several times. Really hate when people without a dog slide in parallel to me or post up out ahead. When this does happen, I bring the dog back and we sit and wait. Or, we hunt in another direction. But I realize what it is, and it can become competitive with other hunters. Really, people need to find their own birds.

To the OP, as long as your not waiting for someone else to flush birds or posting up ahead of other hunters, you should be fine. The other side is everyone knows that early morning birds are often very visible, often on or next to a road. So a bike hunter has a big advantage over someone walking. Can't complain about that. It's a unique hunt in a very unique setting and a person on a bike is making the most of what's there.

Good luck on your next trip and hopefully without any further encounters like that!

 

I saw a guy with a bike there a couple years ago. He was coming back with a rooster in his vest. His dog had died and he still wanted to hunt. I would rather pay the money to take my boys to hunt on private land. Way more action and don't have any worries about other dogs and people.

 

So people ride bikes there toting a shotgun? This is allowed? Basically road hunting on a bike?

Mental note. Do not ever ever ever go pheasant hunting at EE Wilson.

 

So people ride bikes there toting a shotgun? This is allowed? Basically road hunting on a bike?

Mental note. Do not ever ever ever go pheasant hunting at EE Wilson.

Just like rifle and bow hunters pursuing elk or deer behind closed gates on a bike. Is there really a difference?

 

You had a bad experience with a "hunter" at a canned pheasant hunt. Weird.

 

Not really. Have you ever hunted there? I've had pellets raining down on me a couple of times.

 

Look out! Might be fishing in "his" hole....

 

The place is to small for using bikes. Should be for a nice relaxing stroll. Been there paid for my tag went out and kicked a couple of birds to get them up and never hunted it again. Off season it is a great place to train your dog with the few that escape. No need for a gun just let your dog get birdy and find the bird.

No money in the State to maintain nothing. All our money goes into the General fund to pay for ?????. Certainly not what we would hope it pays for. Not sure ODFW has leadership.

 

We're always looking for volunteers to help before, during and after Youth Outdoor Day held each June out there. Any help is appreciated.

www.youthoutdoorday.org

 

I've volunteered there a few times for the intro to Pheasant Hunting and Women's workshops as a dog handler. Great experiences and I think they are great programs. I do think the area could benefit from removing/remediation of the rebar and other hazards, and I'm torn about removing the PO. It's native....and pheasant are not.
If nothing else, I love blackberry picking there and I think the archery range is pretty cool.

I just won't bird hunt there again...unless I develop immunity to PO and my dog to iron.

 

I feel like all I do these days is step in when I don’t agree with something. I apologize for that.

I do want to add my 2 bits about EE Wilson. I started hunting there with 0 upland experience. I bought a cheap GSP from a back yard breeder. Did no bird training and just rolled her out here to EE. We became addicted to upland hunting together out at EE. We made most of the mistakes possible and learned along the way. That first season was 8 years ago for me.

Some of you will knock the cover and management out there. Others say it’s not real hunting. There has been a lot of finger pointing and criticism toward Odfw. I’m not saying it couldn’t be better but I am so grateful for the opportunity I had to hunt at EE. I would never know the joys of my own dog locked up on point over wild birds in Eastern WA and Montana without my first few years at EE. I think the goal is to give people a taste. And if they like it they can go all in like I have. I’ll put some pics of some of my bird hunting memories. NONE of these would exist without EE. Let’s look for the good in every opportunity and chip in to make it better than when we found it.

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I feel like all I do these days is step in when I don’t agree with something. I apologize for that.

I do want to add my 2 bits about EE Wilson. I started hunting there with 0 upland experience. I bought a cheap GSP from a back yard breeder. Did no bird training and just rolled her out here to EE. We became addicted to upland hunting together out at EE. We made most of the mistakes possible and learned along the way. That first season was 8 years ago for me.

Some of you will knock the cover and management out there. Others say it’s not real hunting. There has been a lot of finger pointing and criticism toward Odfw. I’m not saying it couldn’t be better but I am so grateful for the opportunity I had to hunt at EE. I would never know the joys of my own dog locked up on point over wild birds in Eastern WA and Montana without my first few years at EE. I think the goal is to give people a taste. And if they like it they can go all in like I have. I’ll put some pics of some of my bird hunting memories. NONE of these would exist without EE. Let’s look for the good in every opportunity and chip in to make it better than when we found it.


Great perspective for hunting and life in general. Love the hunting pictures complete with family, great scenery, and your furry four legged friends.

 

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Excellent post, GB85. Hunting pheasants at EE Wilson is like fishing after they stock a few trout in the pond down at the city park. It doesn't compare to fly fishing the Deschutes, but it's a chance to get out and try it. I've had days with an easy limit, and days where I got skunked.

As for the OP's encounter, there are enough access points to the area, that you must always assume there is someone ahead of you.

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