We do own an EV and a hybrid, but I digress..... (500 miles range with the hybrid SUV, don't even need to stop for gas going out to the Deschutes and back!). RA, didn't you show temp stats from the Nehalem from last June that showed temps well above 80 during the heat wave? Salmon and steelhead parr died in droves, yes? Are you willing to discount that as "an anomoly"? I'm not. It's a striking example of the new high end of the new range.So I would say you are a true believer then and are changing your ways. So you are living in a cave, walk to work, source all your food and clothing locally and definitely do not not own a boat or vehicles? Two carbon tons per capita is what it will take to meet the goal of keeping the temperature increase below 2 degrees C, or did your experts not tell you that? Some of us have seen the weathermen hype the incoming rains into floods that don't happen and some of us believe we will have to have technology fixes to solve this issue because the mainstream Americans are not going to live in a cave. EV's will not solve this issue at all by themselves.