I'm trying to interpret how your comment applies to what I said. So far I haven't grasped that. It just seems a bit more like provocative, perhaps inflammatory, rhetoric. What I was attempting to point out is how little sense it makes to throw out inaccurate hysteria type statements such as "they (whoever that is) don't care about felons or crime". So some group of people in America don't care about felons or crime? Who would that be? Sure seems like most people I have ever known have been opposed to at least those couple of things. Maybe I'll find out I'm wrong and they (whoever that is) really don't care about those things. Who knows.... And like I said I've never had someone tell me that they wanted to ban all guns and all uses of guns. I'm sticking to that statement. I haven't. I just always try to maintain some semblance of reality guardrails around the discussion. I don't let fear rule my life. I don't need to demonize some stereotypical grouping to focus blame and disagreement on. I don't let hysteria motivate me toward panic gun buying. I have never had one person ask for my guns, demand my guns, or attempt to take them (they can't have them). I have a guaranteed constitutional law to possess them. It is currently settled law. I trust I will be aware enough to 'know' if 'the war' is starting and plan ahead. I have. Many people have made strong cases that perhaps some versions of extremely lethal arms may have to be regulated. I own the ones they are talking about. There seems to be at least some legitimacy to the empirical evidence about their lethality and their use in heinous mass shootings. Everyone argues about that and to what extent....and what to do about it. We have had the crap regulated out of us in regards to rocket launchers, grenades, mortars, ballistic missiles, nukes, and chemical weapons. To the layman such as myself, it seems fairly clear certain varieties of firearms are commonly used in many of these events and it seems at least reasonable and sane to discuss them in that context. So what? I'm unsure how the obtuse suggestion that I give up my guns had anything whatever to do with the discussion, but it wouldn't be the first time if I missed the point. I was at least attempting to be contributory to reasonable discussion. Trust me, I'm not blind, I'm not uninformed, I don't put unilateral, universal trust in the motivations of others and I'm paying attention, but I'm not latching on to hysteria or demonizations that seem counterproductive to legitimate discussion. No offense.