Last I checked deer blacktail deer numbers were down by over 50 percent from 20 years ago in Northern Californiabut I’m sure it wasn’t anything to do with predators.
I was simply trying to show you some different perspectives on different aspects of hunting.
You started the thread stating the introduction of Jaguars would be a fantastic money making opportunity…. Disgusting
Then they would be the answer tostopping the spread of disease.
You seem to have great disdain for nearly all hunters besides yourself.
Whatever technology or advantages you use are are ok.
What anyone else uses is laziness.
As a bow hunter that does 99 percent of my hunts living off whatever I can carry in my backpack, it’s always fun being talked down to from a guy that shoots a modern center fire rifle and uses a satellite phone to call some one to retrieve his game.
I don’t want to derail your Jaguar Introduction thread any further.
Why post a thread for discussion if you only want to hear from folks that agree with you.
You have an extremely high opinion of yourself, and your reasons for doing things.
Haven’t I read your stories on here about how you used to buy up land , subdivided, then develope it?
Once you made enough money off that you stopped right? That last piece of land you bought to divide, you had made so much money off all the other properties you did slightly larger lots than legally allowed so the antelope had a little more room to migrate through the area to the winter range. You posted those stories right here on Ifish.
Any posts I have made in this thread have been met with attacks of my character, morals, and intelligence.
I honestly enjoy reading the stories of your hunts, and hope to read about your upcoming deer and elk hunts. Good luck this year
I can see easily how you could feel as you do.
When I agreed with Elkoholic 247 that his disappointment with my beginning this post was valid, I thought how sloppy I was in introducing the idea about the rewards of Ecotourism to small surrounding towns.
That came off poorly. Delivered in a different way, showing how the local communities could benefit from Jaguars being there, to offset problems,,,well I did a poor job of it. Batting 500 was a high record for a baseball hitter. 50%.
I was just looking at a video about a gazillion long line of migrating antelope in Wyoming. It was though the area where I once owned a key piece of bottleneck migration property and went easy on development.
Lucky me. I can take that one to the pearly gates and if the guy in the red suit with the pitch fork tries to stop me, I can show him that video and say; "Get out of my Way"
I think that any new hunter going through their Hunters safety and conservation Ed. paid for by The Pittman Robertson wildlife restoration act, should be made aware of how American Wildlife was taken to the "brink", not just by guns, not just by overgrazing but also by railroad box cars full of the worst poisons, rolled into our virgin lands in horse drawn fright wagons and then spread everywhere in the era of predator killing wars.
Complete with gruesome photos, so that when there are more poisonings, in the Pacific NW and in California, of 12 Mountain lions, and in Africa with lions they will scream out in outrage rather than be a muted, or say SSS.
A few years ago I saw a photo taken after a coyote killing contest. The guys laid out the dead coyote bodies out in the snow and spelled PETA.
There was also a video of guys hunting coyotes not by snowmobile but with them, Running them over with the snow machine.
Also here was a video of guys baiting pigs near a can of explosive Tenerite then blowing up the pigs and laughing as the pigs body parts flew all over.
I put all these on Ifish Hunting. and there was no outrage expressed.
I believe it was "Grant Pastor" who said that we must remember that these animals too are made by our creator.
If hunting is to survive, we need new blood. We need young people who will express outrage when animal blood is spilled so cruelly.
And we need new hunters who will not just fall in line with old ideas, and serve special interest groups.
And we need new hunters who would look at why game herds are falling off, accept the consequences of climate change, in reduced seed head production, in the take over by drought and pure quality invasive plants.
And we need new hunters who can appreciate significant nuance factors in ecological equations.
One of my all time favorite desert places Is Castle Peaks Wilderness area on the Nevada/Cal border.
After extreme drought that killed off all the non native deer, it was designated as a Desert Bighorn recovery area.
The key for success was banning the hunting of bobcats and coyotes. Never had there been found any of their fecal remains big horn sheep i even lambs. The deadly small sharps horns of the ewes protect their young.
The key factor for a successful recovery was sufficient feed and without the coyotes and bobcats taking out the jackrabbbits all the needed feed would be gone.
The predator hunters screamed in protest, all they had was old ideas.
To be frank, even in the face of what you have said about me, from your other writings, I like you, admire your grit.
The question is, do you love hunting and the outdoors enough to explore new ideas?
DB
