Last I checked deer blacktail deer numbers were down by over 50 percent from 20 years ago in Northern Californiabut I’m sure it wasn’t anything to do with predators.First, so many professional biologists work for the fish and game departments and "rigging the big game game" rules their mind sets.
It is like being a geologist working for oil companies as opposed to being a geologist working to ID toxins and do environmental cleanups. Two very different people with the same degree.
Now regarding this statement
"More predators doesn’t always lead to a healthy balance of populations."
Are you aware that unless one is hunting predators to extinction, hunting them opens the door for just making more or them.
Please read the extensive research on lion hunting in British Columbia specifically Vancouver Island.
They engage in the most lion hunting there and have the highest populations of lions, lion attacks on people and attacks on domestic animals. Study that issue.
The reason is that as lions are killed often the larger lions are chosen, the territory then get filled with many juvenal lions which the dominant male would kill or chase away.
This is like when the big boss drug lord is taken out, then a bunch of punks come in an there is lots of violence.
This "kill a predator makes more predators" has been proven over and over.
You end up with less predators and more game animals.
I could see no better example than hunting so much of California a decade after the mountain lion hunting ban.
Instead of seeing lot and lots of tracks of young male lions, I saw mostly the tracks of a few females and on huge tom which if hunting were allowed would be the first hunted.
These are the kind of things a real eco-hunter would study and then make choices on. If one just stays in the predators hunting "echo-chamber" one will never learn differently.
When you kill any wild canine, and one of the alpha dominants or both gets killed, then others begin to breed instead of the alphas. Then you end up with many more with new packs forming
Do you know these things?:Learning field biology is where the real deep meaning comes from, Far better than mere "fun" And what a great gift to give your children
I was simply trying to show you some different perspectives on different aspects of hunting.
You started the thread stating the introduction of Jaguars would be a fantastic money making opportunity…. Disgusting
Then they would be the answer tostopping the spread of disease.
You seem to have great disdain for nearly all hunters besides yourself.
Whatever technology or advantages you use are are ok.
What anyone else uses is laziness.
As a bow hunter that does 99 percent of my hunts living off whatever I can carry in my backpack, it’s always fun being talked down to from a guy that shoots a modern center fire rifle and uses a satellite phone to call some one to retrieve his game.
I don’t want to derail your Jaguar Introduction thread any further.
Why post a thread for discussion if you only want to hear from folks that agree with you.
You have an extremely high opinion of yourself, and your reasons for doing things.
Haven’t I read your stories on here about how you used to buy up land , subdivided, then develope it?
Once you made enough money off that you stopped right? That last piece of land you bought to divide, you had made so much money off all the other properties you did slightly larger lots than legally allowed so the antelope had a little more room to migrate through the area to the winter range. You posted those stories right here on Ifish.
Any posts I have made in this thread have been met with attacks of my character, morals, and intelligence.
I honestly enjoy reading the stories of your hunts, and hope to read about your upcoming deer and elk hunts. Good luck this year