Yep!!!And there you have it.![]()
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Yep!!!And there you have it.![]()
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Please understand, the Plaintiff Counties' NEVER had the $1-Billion. They and their attorneys tried to pick the pockets of all Oregonians (including the residents of those counties - LOL!)That money is a big deal in counties where they are heavily dependent on it. Take Tillamook county. Isn’t much left except logging and Tourism...
The intent of the management agreement was to provide income to those countries through timber harvests. Everyone knows the greatest value was for those countries, not for the entire state, including the State of Oregon. The state bowed to the change in the political climate, Oregon now argues that the greatest value is for things other than timber harvests. Also they really don't want to pay $1 billion.Please understand, the Plaintiff Counties' NEVER had the $1-Billion. They and their attorneys tried to pick the pockets of all Oregonians (including the residents of those counties - LOL!)
BTW, half or more of Tillamook's personal income comes from Gov't transfer payments. The logging industry provides some good paying jobs but is a small fraction of Tillamook County personal income.
\The intent of the management agreement was to provide income to those countries through timber harvests.
Pretty simple.
My point was the intent of the original agreement. The intent was income for the counties.\
Did you take time to read the court's analysis?
Simple enough.
Hmmm timber companies get a sweet heart tax deal for their private lands, complain long and hard about not able to log state or federal land lobbying that they get handed down to the lowest level of government that will sell the land…. Get the common man arguing about a tree while looking at a forest.My point was the intent of the original agreement. The intent was income for the counties.
I could care less if the State pays the billion dollars.
All they have to do is turn the ground back over to the counties. The agreement obviously doesn't work for both parties.
There is a raw log export ban already in place for State and Federal land. Coos County doesn't restrict exports from their forest lands.
That is true, however, PRIVATE land logs are what's being exported. Columbia County is ~90% private timber lands.This subject has been covered numerous times on ifish - please check your facts. With the exception of Port Orford Cedar, public timber in Oregon is not exportable. Just got off the phone with the Coos County Forestry Dept. to verify their non-export status.
The counties DID receive their share of the timber revenue.My point was the intent of the original agreement. The intent was income for the counties.
I didn't say they didn't get revenue.The counties DID receive their share of the timber revenue.
The counties' argument was there was a contract with the State of Oregon. The court emphatically ruled, "NO"
The Court's ruling nullified the counties' second argument which was under such "contract", balls-to-the-wall logging with no regard to anything else should have happened, leading the $1-Billion claim.
This is what happens when politicians are seduced by businesses with campaign contributions and promises of easy-money.
I've never seen it covered on iFish beforeThis subject has been covered numerous times on ifish - please check your facts. With the exception of Port Orford Cedar, public timber in Oregon is not exportable. Just got off the phone with the Coos County Forestry Dept. to verify their non-export status.
Place "log exports" in search community and scroll through all the discussions pertaining to this subject thru the years. Call Coos County Forestry Dept. (541) 396-3121 for yourself. Lance Morgan is the County Forester.I've never seen it covered on iFish beforeLink? What law prohibits counties from exporting? OAR 629-031-0005 only covers State land. It goes against what I have personal knowledge of (but its has been many years). Maybe you could post up a link to a Coos County timber sale contract with a no-export clause? Sorry, but I wouldn't count on anyone who works for Coos County to know much of anything.
I worked for Coos County and I would have to agree with you. 😄I've never seen it covered on iFish beforeLink? What law prohibits counties from exporting? OAR 629-031-0005 only covers State land. It goes against what I have personal knowledge of (but its has been many years). Maybe you could post up a link to a Coos County timber sale contract with a no-export clause? Sorry, but I wouldn't count on anyone who works for Coos County to know much of anything.