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I have seen a few people in the past floating in their catacrafts, my question is this, can this be floated all the way to the mouth of the Nestucca? The other thing is can you float it in a small boat? I have a friend who shall remain nameless that has a little willie. (Sorry Loren oops) :hoboy: No not that willie but a 12' willie drifter, would love to try to fish them hard to get to spots but need to know if this would be legal? Any help would be appreciated.

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[ 11-25-2003, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Crambone ]
 

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I would not recomend it. I think it would be very possable from the foestry building on down, but don't think I would do it. First of all, this has always been and hopefully always will remain a bank fishing river. And one of the best in my opinion. It would be a real shame to see it change. Secondly, you will be putting you life at great risk. There are some land owners and certain fisherman that would love to use a floating object for target practice. I'm not one of them but not sure if I could blame them.
You can bank fish nearly 90 percent of the whole river from the bank anyway!
Please don't do it! :rolleyes:

This is only my opinion, not gospel.
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It used to be done a fair amount at higher water flows. I know that the tree down in the forest service zone will make passing through a bit of a chore. Also, anchoring will be risky at best due to navagability issues. That created the problem with the folks below the hatchery and apparently is what prompted them to put up the cable across the river just below the bridge. I would have to agree with 4reel that a little leg work will get you to most of the river anyways so floating will be more aggravation than its worth in my opinion.
 

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Ok just a thought and also I was bored since it was raining sideways here in the valley :depressed: I also wanted to give my buddy Kruechief a hard time about his little willie. :grin:
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P.S. please don't ask how I know
 

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i have floated it over the years, it has some good water but the property owned by stover below the hatchery hole is a real pain, you cannot even touch the river bottom with your oartip or boat bottom, and believe me he stands there the whole time with a video cam and cell phone waiting for you to screw up, not worth it to me for a couple steelies! he does this to protect his rich flyfishermans water.
 

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It's too a little river to try boating it. Nearly all private property. After reading the previous entry I wonder if the high water mark property line is in effect on three rivers. Any locals know the answer?

Back to the boating issue, it's small and heavily fished from every bit of public access. I've never seen anyone try to drift it and hope not too.
 

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I have seen a couple people get escorted off "his property" by OSP. This guy has been to court from what I hear and there is no way he will let you fish "his water" just because you think you can wade down there. He will and has called OSP many times. He also has a guy that lives there close <big red truck> that drives by every now and then just to check. I went down once to untangle a bobber set up that a fish ran around some rock and came off. I wasnt there for more that 30 secs when this guy pulls up and tells me to get out and stay out or I would be arrested.

I will say though that his son is a nicer guy and offered to let me play fish and land them down there a couple times <when he was fishing there> when they headed down river.

I would greatly advise not floating down there unless you are willing to put up alot of money and fight a big court battle when you bump one of "his rocks". He has been in court over it before from what Ive been told and hes more than willing to do it again. It has not been "classified" as a navigable river for what thats worth.

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Please advise against it. I see so many foul boat anglers park it right in front of the limited bank space on small systems (like this one) and others follow suit with the claim, "Well everyone else does it."

Sure, I can see how tough it is for a boater to not want to give up a hole or two with only having miles of river! :rolleyes:
 

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I have two friends that used to float it (Mark and Larry) and it was a big pain in the ...

The private property folks would really give them a bad time and as mentioned watch for that anchor or what have you.

I don't think they interfered with the bankies except for maybe some of the rich guys that fished the private property.

It's no joke about the rich fishin' it because the one friend of mine got permission the one year when I fished it and Joe Montana was coming in the next day to fish it.

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WHO THE HECK IS STOVER ? It is my understanding
the property below the hatchery (perhaps the second parcel) is owned by " Robinson ". The same cat that owns Rainbow King Lodge.YOU would not believe how much his clients pay to fish that piece of water. It is outrageously overpriced IMHO. Even at high water in a cat raft this is a boat eater creek.
 

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Well that property below the hatchery is owned by both the Stover family and Robinson. I would not float it because they will watch your every move and that to me is not worth it. The son of the Stover family is a really nice guy and an ole' buddy of mine, but he still is a stickler for property lines. They have had that property for ever and will never give up an inch of it. Keep to bank fishing it as small streams should be left to bankies.
 

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I worked for Robinson up at Rainbow King a few years ago and also know Stover's son. All I can say is that Robinson is very passionate about protecting his investments. I personally have no problem with the guy, but he is the last person I would want after me in a legal dispute. I would stick to the bank and not even think about fishing in that section of the river.

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This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. Not letting someone anchor in a river? Oregon rivers are public up to the high water mark. I can see if someone wanted to tie up in a tree owned by the property owner, but if you are just drifting through, no one should care. I guess money talks, Joe Montana's money.

I have seen drift boats go down Three Rivers from the hatchery parking lot. I personally wouldn't do it, not because of the Yayhoo who owns the property below, but because I've heard it's a bear with all the log jams and boulders and low lying branches.

But if you just have to, skip this idiot's property and go down to more peaceful waters.

Better yet, go float the Big Nestucca, and leave this river to the bank fishermen.

Don't forget the carrot milk. :wink:

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Hey wet willie I talked with krue last night and I heard that he passed on his small willie to your buddy. I sure open up a can of worms with this post. It was just a thought
, not a well thought out one at that

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SKP it is not legal unless the river is declared navagatable. You dont own to the high water mark unless that decalration has been named, even the JOHN DAY is not declared navagatable.
 

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Yea, that's one nice piece of real estate.
Can you imagine owning something like that?
Or being the son or daughter of the owner? 2ond cousin? :grin:

It is a small river and it would bring conflict if you had boats attempting to fish it with the bankies.
Guess you got to give that private property owner respect, the same respect you would like to see if you were the lucky one. :wink:

Guess a guy could float it down to the "Heart attack" hole though so as he was not forced to hike out of there and suffer a...

Me, think I'll just settle for the Elocoman now that I am only 30 minutes away.
Of course there's the Kalama only 10 minutes away.
Well I guess the Cowlitz is only a few blocks... :grin:

Oh I love Longview! :cheers:

Crambone, let's get together and catch a fish.
Friend of mine is killing the crab down your way.
Easy limits!
Get them before the commercials do Dec. 1rst.

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Oregon is screwed on the navigatable water issue. Look at the federal definition of Navigatable waters, If the state went by the fed's defintion every creek and river would be navigatable and we wouldnt have to worry about trespassing.
 
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