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That's a beautiful fish too!

I followed JC around last year and watched him and his wife catching fish non stop for a couple hours just dragging triangles with fresh anchovies. I believe his count for the day was 14 fish netted. We were running spin fish, and a few spinner rigs, and didn't do too bad ourselves, But they couldn't even keep two rods in the water, and when they did manage it, they hooked doubles....

Needless to say, i'm going to drag some meat around myself this year.
Yes, last year was fun. Meat again this year without hesitation. We mixed and fished both triangles and 360's and found if we extended our leader length to about 48" (like with a triangle) or so and fished the 360's with about and 8" lead dropper in the mud, they fished really well too. Those days at Marker #1 on the incoming were insane. lots of doubles.......................all on meat! jc
 
Yes, last year was fun. Meat again this year without hesitation. We mixed and fished both triangles and 360's and found if we extended our leader length to about 48" (like with a triangle) or so and fished the 360's with about and 8" lead dropper in the mud, they fished really well too. Those days at Marker #1 on the incoming were insane. lots of doubles.......................all on meat! jc
I was debating what length to start my anchovy leader behind triangles. That sold me, thanks.
 
Not sure if it matters, but I've been lightly sprinkling my fresh bait with Magic Brine powder on our run out. As we 'no wake' from the Skippannon launch to the river, I take a couple of both Herring and Anchovies, lay them out on some flake ice in the bait cooler, and sprinkle them down. By the time we get where ever we are starting, the bait has slightly toughened and locked in the scales. Really prevents scale loss and makes for a more beautiful bait. Does it matter? Probably not, but....... jc
 
At b10 I like running anchovies behind my 360s between 32-36 inches
Here's a perfect example how much the fish like meat at Buoy-10. 32" to 48" and it all gets bit. I learned up off WCVI years ago, the fish there like bait moving slowly. 'Chin to the floor' is the norm. We've always fished about 48" behind Triangles, so I tried the slow approach here behind 360's too. Works for us. Probably, to be honest, obviously leader length doesn't seem to mater. Quality fresh bait does. jc
 
Helmets on or no?
We like Rhys Davis UV Magna Green or UV Moon Jelly Heads with wires (install your self) for Anchovies and Dick's Sure Spin Medium Clear UV Heads for the size fresh Herring typically available at Buoy 10. If the Anchovies are large, we plug cut those too and put them in Small size Dick's Heads. Plug Cut Anchovies may be one of our most productive presentations. jc
 
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....... Quality fresh bait does. jc
This is the truth!

Personally, I run my anchovies on the shorter side behind a 360. I think someone said 32-36", and that's probably closer to what I do. 'Chovy in the helmet, triple hooks (3/0, 4/0/ #4 treble) and send it. Deep water, I don't use a lead dropper, shallow water when we're dredging sand I use a dropper. If we're fishing da meat in the herring version, I brine mine with the Pro-Cure clear or blue( the all in one bottle) the night before, and stick it behind the triangle about 48"-60ish" leader, double hooks.

Tight lines folks !
Chris
 
I noticed Gene at tackle time advertising the frozen anchovies 5 1/4”- 5 1/2” . Seems to me these might work well and save a few bucks, but a lot of you seasoned vets here use fresh bait vs frozen. What’s the philosophy on that?
im thinking of curing some blue anchovies… Secret weapon! lol

I used to fish green label CPH herring a lot on the coast behind triangles, (blue color)and then use red label behind a 360 now and then. The smaller red label didn’t kill the action of the 360. I actually had way more action on spin fish than blue plug cut herring at B-10. I Typically run about 30”-36” leaders. I never have used really long leaders because it sure makes netting them at the rail more difficult. I prefer an 18” bumper length for the same reason. With a 9’ rod folded over a 60” leader makes netting a stretch…. Why would you use the long leader? Am I missing something? Kirk
 
This is the truth!

Personally, I run my anchovies on the shorter side behind a 360. I think someone said 32-36", and that's probably closer to what I do. 'Chovy in the helmet, triple hooks (3/0, 4/0/ #4 treble) and send it. Deep water, I don't use a lead dropper, shallow water when we're dredging sand I use a dropper. If we're fishing da meat in the herring version, I brine mine with the Pro-Cure clear or blue( the all in one bottle) the night before, and stick it behind the triangle about 48"-60ish" leader, double hooks.

Tight lines folks !
Chris
Solid leader for the anchovy or split with a swivel to counter leader twist?
 
Frozen chovies work, but fresh is better. I was taught a long time ago, get fresh bait and keep it ice cold almost to the point of freezing but not frozen I took that to heart well before I starting guiding. I sometimes sprinkle sea salt on fresh bait if I am holding it over for next day
It is more expensive to get fresh each day but my clients like the results.
I see folks leaving bait out of the cooler and it loses it effectiveness after awhile but I am extra crazy on details.
 
Not sure if it matters, but I've been lightly sprinkling my fresh bait with Magic Brine powder on our run out. As we 'no wake' from the Skippannon launch to the river, I take a couple of both Herring and Anchovies, lay them out on some flake ice in the bait cooler, and sprinkle them down. By the time we get where ever we are starting, the bait has slightly toughened and locked in the scales. Really prevents scale loss and makes for a more beautiful bait. Does it matter? Probably not, but....... jc
I use magic and bionic both southern fla brines. definitely like bionic better for wet brining and sprinkling down anchovies. Magic is good but seems better dry sprinkling. Monday used bionic on anchovies for chunk bait in the ocean the firm bait was a winner.
 
When my son was little he would chase them around the boat with a spray bottle or the washdown. Not very effective, but kept a kid busy.
A few years ago (OK.. a lotta'years ago) a buddy got one of those salt-powered shotguns specifically for that purpose. WAY more satisfying than spraying or swatting. I think it was called a Bug A-Salt.
 
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