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Not salty at all. Awesome bull! Why don’t we just allow high fence to be entered as well? Does everyone who draws a tag for that unit have an opportunity for that bull? Is there an advantage to the hunter on private ground? Absolutely! It should not be allowed to go in the books. Period.
In this state, odds are it spends time in public land as well as private. But using your logic should an animal shot on timberland be excluded as well?


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Not salty at all. Awesome bull! Why don’t we just allow high fence to be entered as well? Does everyone who draws a tag for that unit have an opportunity for that bull? Is there an advantage to the hunter on private ground? Absolutely! It should not be allowed to go in the books. Period.
You’re comparing apples and oranges. High fenced and private land are nowhere near the same. You’re right, it isn’t “fair”, but let’s be honest. Everyone who draws a tag for a unit never has the same opportunity at animals. There are limitations to everyone’s ability. Should we not allow bulls killed at long range? Or more than 2 miles from a road? Not all hunters can shoot 600 yards or walk 2 miles. If we want to even the playing field maybe we should consider only allowing road killed bucks and bulls to be entered. That would fix it. Right?
 

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Not salty at all. Awesome bull! Why don’t we just allow high fence to be entered as well? Does everyone who draws a tag for that unit have an opportunity for that bull? Is there an advantage to the hunter on private ground? Absolutely! It should not be allowed to go in the books. Period.
They picked up a similar sized dead head on private open timber year in a nearby unit.

They don’t get big by being dumb. There’s draw tags in multiple states that have Amazing quality bulls, should those be excluded too because they aren’t otc? What about free range rez bulls?

I’ve hunted great draw tags and great private and mediocre of both too. Most people with your opinion is based purely on drive by jealousy and misconceptions.
 

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Maybe this has been posted already?? But don't recall seeing this one - heck of a bull!!

WRO or kaseyfield you guys know anything about this one??

It’ll be interesting to see if there isn’t an ODFW/OSP case on this bull at some point. Lots of rumors about access are floating around.


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In this state, odds are it spends time in public land as well as private. But using your logic should an animal shot on timberland be excluded as well?


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It’ll be interesting to see if there isn’t an ODFW/OSP case on this bull at some point. Lots of rumors about access are floating around.


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That’s a bummer, I hate it when bulls like this are shrouded with controversy. I suppose it comes with the territory though. Hopefully it was legit.
 

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There will never ever be a state record animal that doesnt have "rumors" going on about it.....
True, hopefully this one sticks with rumors. State record cali before the current state record was seized by osp.


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I agree its just awesome to think we have that caliber of elk in our state. Private or public
Congratulations to the hunter lots has to go right to tag an animal like that.
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Not salty at all. Awesome bull! Why don’t we just allow high fence to be entered as well? Does everyone who draws a tag for that unit have an opportunity for that bull? Is there an advantage to the hunter on private ground? Absolutely! It should not be allowed to go in the books. Period.
Actually yes.. that bull was seen several times on PUBLIC GROUND;) just to answer the question. Wish I had some place like that to hunt. Elk actually doing elk things.. I miss those days

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Its not at all about jealousy or misconception. I have plenty of wall hangers that came from both public and private. Some are book from private but I would never enter them. There could very easily be “categories” for the book that denote area taken. I am sure that bull lived on public at times as he was killed not far off it. Hopefully where the hunter had permission. 🤣
 

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Its not at all about jealousy or misconception. I have plenty of wall hangers that came from both public and private. Some are book from private but I would never enter them. There could very easily be “categories” for the book that denote area taken. I am sure that bull lived on public at times as he was killed not far off it. Hopefully where the hunter had permission.
Your point is broken when by limited draw you can hunt public better than any private, or gov tag public, etc.


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Its not at all about jealousy or misconception. I have plenty of wall hangers that came from both public and private. Some are book from private but I would never enter them. There could very easily be “categories” for the book that denote area taken. I am sure that bull lived on public at times as he was killed not far off it. Hopefully where the hunter had permission. 🤣
Okay, you're the best hunter and the most righteous by not "booking" your success from private land. Wow. There are a lot of elk on the ranch but they are also on every private property in the far flung surrounding area including adjacent Forest Service land. They come and go as they please.

Come on, that's one hell of an elk to bag. With a bow yet. I'm impressed.
 

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Not saying anything about being the best hunter. Just each to their own I guess. I am sure there are a lot of old timers who shot tons of “book” animals and never entered them because it was not a big deal. If you want the recognition more power to ya.
 

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Not saying anything about being the best hunter. Just each to their own I guess. I am sure there are a lot of old timers who shot tons of “book” animals and never entered them because it was not a big deal. If you want the recognition more power to ya.
Probably because they shot them on private..


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Not salty at all. Awesome bull! Why don’t we just allow high fence to be entered as well? Does everyone who draws a tag for that unit have an opportunity for that bull? Is there an advantage to the hunter on private ground? Absolutely! It should not be allowed to go in the books. Period.
Cmon man do you know the travel range of an elk? Are you really comparing high fence to just regular privat property? My family owns 560 acres in E oregon which gives us 2 tags but I assure you the elk run away just as fast as when we have general tags. What is the saying of the younger generation? Oh yeah " haters gonna hate". Congrats to the shooter dandy bull.
 

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They picked up a similar sized dead head on private open timber year in a nearby unit.

They don’t get big by being dumb. There’s draw tags in multiple states that have Amazing quality bulls, should those be excluded too because they aren’t otc? What about free range rez bulls?

I’ve hunted great draw tags and great private and mediocre of both too. Most people with your opinion is based purely on drive by jealousy and misconceptions.
Exactly we have property and out of my 18 bulls my 5 biggest(300-315 bulls) were not on our property but on the years I drew my general tag. Private property doesnt mean instant success
 

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Its not at all about jealousy or misconception. I have plenty of wall hangers that came from both public and private. Some are book from private but I would never enter them. There could very easily be “categories” for the book that denote area taken. I am sure that bull lived on public at times as he was killed not far off it. Hopefully where the hunter had permission. 🤣
It sounds to me if you had access to the same spot you would have gladly hunted and shot the same bull. Why the hate? BTW, are you in the book?
 

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Na, probably because they were not in it for the wrong reasons. It sure does not guarantee a kill or a monster. It sure DOES eliminate hunting pressure and makes hunting much easier. The range of an elk is irrelevant. They go back to the same area year after year at the same times. If you knew anything about elk you would know that! Not the same playing field, period! Good stories though.
 
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