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Mercury or Yamaha main motor

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Ok dogs it’s time to get a new main motor for my 20’ raider. Currently has a 90 horse 2 stroke mercury on it. She pushes it just fine but is cold blooded as hell. And wanting to get away from 2 stroke oil. I have a 2020 4 stroke 25 horse Yamaha I’m putting on for a kicker”runs flawless”. Looking at a 115 since neither mercury or Yamaha sells a 135 that my boat is rated for. Both brands go from 115 to 150 with nothing in between. So in your opinion what is the best salt water motor. I fish salt 80 percent of the time. Thanks for your input. Good or bad
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One thing to consider is the displacement of the motors. The HP rating tells you something, but a 115 hp motor built on a small displacement block (maybe also used in a 90 hp motor) isn't going to perform the same way that a 115 built on a larger displacement block (maybe also used for a 150). However, it will probably be lighter and get better fuel economy, while the larger displacement engine will generally produce more torque and have the low end power needed to turn taller props/move heavier loads/accelerate quickly.

I would also consider resale value. Japanese brands tend to hold their resale better. Historically, Merc's have been a little cheaper to buy new.

More than anything, I'd check Ifish and elsehwere about the reputation of the dealer's service department and after-the-sale support. I'd happily go with my 2nd or 3rd choice motor brand with a dealer that strongly backs their customers vs. going with my 1st choice and a dealer who develops amnesia when you drive off the lot.
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In this case, it is because the Coast Guard ran Honda 225's on their fast boats for 15 years, tried switching to Mercury Verados, then quickly switched back to due to boats being out of commission from motor failures. I am sure Mercury makes some excellent products as well, but in that specific application the Verado's were not reliable enough for Coast Guard use.

In my experience, corrosion issues on a Honda outboard = failure of anodes (especially the internal anodes). Problem is the internal anodes can be a bear to access/replace on some models (and most owners have no idea there is such a thing).

The Yamaha corrosion issues in their early 200-225-250 4 strokes as due to using a cheaper/incorrect alloy and coating for some critical components in the exaust system. They actually made retrofit kits to fix the problem, but never offered a recall on them.

Some early Suzuki 115/140's had severe dissimilar metal corrosion problems on the oil pans due to using a plain steel plug in an aluminum housing. And their NMEA 2000 networking implementation has long been a pain in the buttocks that requires specialized cables w/ the correct software to match a specific year/model of motor.

All that is to say... every brand has their quirks. Having owned both, and been around ton of boats running Honda's (even a few from the 1990's), and a ton of boats re-powered with Suzukis, I would not hesitate to buy either brand.
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Well guys. I just did the bay kit on my 2021 Yamaha 25 horse and the in side was all white from corrosion And I rinse it after every use in salt. I’m not leaning towards Yamaha anymore. Sad because I really wanted matching motors. Oh well
That white stuff is likely not corrosion, it is most likely calcium carbonate (also known as scale) deposits that have built up over time from seawater (especially when seawater evaporates). Can happen to any make/model of motor.

Calcium carbonate is a base on the ph scale, and you can treat it/prevent it by running a mildly acidic cleaner (like Salt Away) through the motor. If it is really crusty, another option is to stock up on vinegar (acetic acid) and then run the motor in a barrel or stock tank with the vinegar solution pumping through it instead of water. Can read more on that here: https://www.thehulltruth.com/boatin...how-cleaning-your-cooling-system-vinegar.html
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Bucksnbulls, You don't work for a Mercury motor dealer do you?
Or own stock in Brunswick Marine. Or just enjoy stirring the pot.

Though it is kinda funny to see a guy picking a fight with Puffin over Honda reliability and longevity in the salt. Sort of like picking a fight with Eric Clapton over whether or not Fender makes a good guitar.
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You local fishery guys think you’re the cats meow… go to the gulf states, Florida or overseas…. Almost zero guys run Honda on offshore boats. You will see piles of Mercury and Yamaha though.
You do realize you are posting on a web forum full of captains who run 50+ miles offshore dozens of times each summer, many of whom are running Hondas?

Puffin is a fixture in the Oregon offshore community and many of us have spent time sharing tuna intel with him on the radio while fishing out beyond the 125 line.

But hey, I'm sure you know better than all of us!
I bow to your vastly superior experience running small boats offshore out of exotic ports. I guess my crew was probably fishing Detroit Lake or something last week. :cool:

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