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Johnson Pump Bilge Wiring - Why 3 wires on float?

4.7K views 4 replies 2 participants last post by  Jeb  
#1 Ā·
Folks,

I need to replace my float on my Johnson Pump. Tested all the wiring - pump works when manually switched on and I do have power to float switch...but when filled with water (bilge) or manually raising the float lever, the pump does not turn on. So float switch is bad.

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Now the big question.... why is there a ground/negative wire on the float switch? Its just a mag switch and is a single pole, single throw (SPST) switch....so why is there a negative wire even there?

Thanks,

-J
 
#4 Ā·
Just to clarify here...

Motor has 2 wires....simple: +12VDC and a Ground/neg terminal. Standard DC motor stuff here...

But the Float Switch has 3 wires: (1) +12VDC in (2) Switched 12V out (3) Ground
Why does a simple magnetic switch need 3 wires?

No where in their documentation can I see any explanation for what the ground on the switch is for.

-J
 
#5 Ā·
ok...so the engineer in me had to just split this case open to see what is inside this float switch to require both a +12V feed and a negative.

Now, it makes complete sense ...they have a relay inside the switch enclosure!!!! The mag switch they use can NOT handle the 15Amp rated load of the float switch....so they use a mag switch to drive the relay which in turn supports the 15Amp rated load of the float switch. There is a diode (snubber) to deal with any stored energy in the relay coil to dissipate that when the switch turns off.


So, the negative wire to the switch is needed to drive that relay :)
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Some things to note here, the float switch is not water tight. Yes there is a seal around the wires, but water can still work its way into the housing. If that happens, you may get corrosion and damage to the connections around the relay --- which is what happened to me (see picture). I imagine the relay got water (salt) in it too, because when I try to drive this directly with a power supply on the work bench...the relay doesn't work.


Of all the Googling, I was never able to find out what was inside of this float switch to require a 3rd wire (negative). Now I hope this helps the next person seeking the answer ;)