I tried a diver with a silver/red wee dik nite for the first time and did ok. I was catching as many or more than others around me. I was anchored in 15 ft water and was using a 20/20 diver. I would just float the diver back of the boat a ways then put the rod in a holder. I was never bouncing off the bottom and don't really know what depth I was fishing....but I caught fish during a slow period when not many fish were being landed. About a 4ft leader.