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#1 Ā·
1976 Harvey Dory 20'

This is my new project. I lived in Aloha by Harvey marine growing up as a child and have been a fan of his original Dory designs from back in the day for many years. I'm now 50, and own one!

Boat has a completely new floor and transom, new deck paint, and I have recently buffed the exterior attempting to bring some shine back. Solid as a rock ready for salt.:meme:

Have a tilt/beach trailer, and am now deciding on electronics, power plant, and all the related positions for rods and storage.

I have talked to many of you on the boards and want to thank you all for your advice and guidance. I'm learning, and thought I would share my excitement.

Cheers,
Toad.
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#7 Ā·
Thank you all for the post.

Tinman, most likely not this season, I have a lot I would like and need to do 1st and plan to spend most of my free time from now until late Nov on the fall run in the rivers.:excited:

May need to hit you guys with some questions as I learn and progress further.

Thanks again....
 
#9 Ā·
I don't know if you've seen my recent posts but I just put a new 90hp optimax on my 22ft
Harvey and did the first 6 hours of the break in today
I can only get 31mph but I ran over 50 miles from Oregon City to the columbia and back .... Only used 12 gallons of fuel
I am imagining less than 30 gallons for an all day tuna trip
Its going to be nice leaving the deck tank at home and only carrying 50 gallons instead of 70
I've had my harvey for almost 12 years but its the semi V model so no beach launches for me
I do wish Ed had built them for a bigger motor as I wish I had more power for those 25 fish days.......as it stands mine is rated 100 hp max
If you have any questions feel free to send a pm
 
#11 Ā·
Hank, yes I have, and thanks for the update on your new motor upgrade. :applause: I appreciate your advice, and will be hitting you with a few questions as I move forward on the boat. Im a Yamaha fan but just cant seem to ge the deal on a new motor here locally that I'm looking for. So far, SM has the best deal I have found on new motor with controller, cables, prop & installation. They are even willing to do a Transom skin like they did for yours.....
 
#14 Ā· (Edited)
Congrats Toad!
And cool, another proud Harvey owner!

When you get there, be cautious and respectful of the surf and the sand. Carry a long pull rope.

DogGone has the luxury of blaming it all on his brother.
In the end, one or both of us will likely get...
:bricks:

Mine is the 'Frayed Knot'. There's a couple of 'before' pics in my early posts and avatar.

Here's a more recent one: After an idylic day for launching.

Caution, Harvey's are addictive...
 

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Here is how the floor of mine turned out after being replaced and cleaned up. Now I'm deciding on where to mount everything I want. I haven't made up my mind on what I'm going to mount or build yet, but will be cutting some new holes soon :)

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#67 Ā·
Nice floor. I have a 22 foot Dory. Wondering how what you used for spatter affect on your floor and sides. Would like to do the same on mine.

Thanks, Steve

Here is how the floor of mine turned out after being replaced and cleaned up. Now I'm deciding on where to mount everything I want. I haven't made up my mind on what I'm going to mount or build yet, but will be cutting some new holes soon :)

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#19 Ā·
IIonpilgrimg, yea now that you mention it, I do remember seeing your past post(s) and that boat was white. I have that picture of your boat after you finished it on that cart in your yard. So yes, now I can blame you and your bro.
 
#21 Ā· (Edited)
Thanks, Toad,

Your boat looks familiar, also: I believe we have some photos of it (both before and after the floor/wall replacement). Someday, we can turn you on to them.

Do you still have the 'hat-channel' that contains the cables on the wall?
(I'd love to cast a mold from it or at least get some measurements.)

You've got there a good basis for many years of fishing service. Hope we'll meet on the water, soon.

Measure three times, cut once.

Here's another pic of our progress along the way (the resin on the walls is still wet)...
 

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#23 Ā·
Nice job, you did do a complete floor/deck on the Frayed Knot? Did you do the work yourself, or someone else. Would love to see both boats sometime, drop me a PM if you want to chat sometime while in PC. Yes, I do have that channel piece for the wall. Next time down, I will take a pic for you and send with a measurement to start.

Regarding those pics of my boat before the floor, did you know the prior owner, or see it at HM while it was being done? Would love to see whatever you are talking about.

My email: dt1blue@comcast.net
 
#22 Ā·
With very careful planning, there's barely enough room at the helm for all your equipment:

You'll want both VHF and CB channel 5 at Kiwanda. Plus GPS/FF, switches, guages, etc. It gets crowded quickly.

The salt will cause problems, immediately:
Many Harvey's have an added enclosed box with a plexiglass front to keep the electricals dry.

And, everything not anchored down will slide forward when you land on the sand.

Also, I'm enjoying the open deck. But, I would like to sit down sometimes. We've some plans in the works for that, too.
 
#24 Ā·
Yes, yes & yes. Thanks for the post. I know what electronics I'm going to do, am now trying to learn the best way to wire in switches and position everything. Id really like to go to a center console and build a door and box, but most likely will go the easy route and just start fishing.

Another question, did you mount oar locks, and have oars for both of yours boats? I'm looking for a used set of 10' oars, and need to learn what position to mount the locks.
 
#25 Ā·
I temporarily have some 8 foot oars on board but will probably invest in 9 or 10 soon. I have not mounted oar locks yet and am curious about the best position myself. If anyone with knowledge knows the best position for oar locks on a harvey, please post.
 
#28 Ā·
Yes, the Frayed Knot went the whole nine yards:

We gutted it to the outer shell, turned it upside down, skinned the bottom and applied gelcoat, then turned it back upright and filled it in, piece by laborious piece. We were 'on the job' many evenings and every weekend for a year and a half.

We saw yours at HM, before and after. It used to have a Johnson VRO 70hp on the back.

Love to yack about it sometime after cleaning our catch.
 
#35 Ā·
The harveys I've seen with oar lo,cks were just about one foot forward of dead center
Dang its been years since I saw anyne row a harvey
I would recomend going to near max hp for the rating of the boat
Mine is rated at 100 hp and with the new optimax I can get 32 mph and it looks like I'm getting close to 5mpg
Ttomorow will tell all
Headed for butts then tuna and nooks on the way in seas permitting
Then pull the pots for limits of good had crab
Will post results after we get in
 
#37 Ā· (Edited)
Wait a minute, Beach Monkey:
Stringers in the floor? (These may be aftermarket)
Is yours flat-bottomed all the way to the bow or, one of the semi-V-bow versions?

Here's a photo of our balsa going in, before covering it with glass.

1) It's sold scrimmed and sliced (for the ability to shape it) in 2'x4' sheets, any thickness. We needed exactly 10 sheets. But, I'd buy 11 or 12 if we did it again, not that we were short. The original was two layers of 1/2". We replaced with 1 layer of 3/4" and it's rock-solid.

2) Do NOT store the balsa where it can absorb any moisture. Store it in a dry closet or it will 'curl' as it swells. You can dry it out but, it will still be curled.

3) Coat the floor with thickened resin. Our thickening agent was sawdust - works great but, I've found it doesn't hold a screw well. An over the counter product is Cabosil - I suspect it won't hold a screw either: might be worth comparing before choosing.

4) Coat the bottom of the balsa sheet with un-thickened resin and lay it in place. Weigh it down - note the resin oozing up through the cracks. Any air bubbles are a 'delamination' which creates that 'floating floor' feeling.

5) Go back tomorrow and filet the edges. Go back again and sand everything smooth. When you cover it, the glass shouldn't make sharp corners and, again, even a small piece of dust can create a bubble under the glass so, take the time to clean-up thoroughly between each session.

6) Use laminating resin, which contains no waxes. Keep 5-gallons on hand for each stage. Add successive layers as soon as possible; preferrably within 24 hours. But, a week later they will still bond strongly, despite the epoxy-sales-pitches.
 

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#41 Ā·
II,
Harvey made a 22' that used stringers and had a slight Vee and a keel. I wasn't picky when I was looking and this is the one I found. We do launch off the beach up here but it's a much tamer thing than y'al do down there so I can get away with the Vee. Beyond that I don't know much about these so I'm far from an expert.
When I was looking for a Harvey I went down and looked at one south of Tillamook. It was beautiful, but the shipping cost was going to kill me. I got to spend some time with the seller though who was a long time dory guy who knew all about them and helped point me in the right direction.
Found this one up here and am looking forward to getting started on it.
Thanks all for the advice on resin.
 
#38 Ā·
I was always under the impression the Harvey's had the cored balsa floors like a C-dory.

Them stringers look very much like 2x4's, 2x6's to me. I would have replaced them with glulam's (LVL) if planning to leave stringers in it.

The hull does look to have a slight V. It looks like the middle stringer is taller than the other 2 anyway.

I personaly wouldnt do any such work with polyester resins. Polyester will chemically bond to successive layers if layed up before its completely cured. Thats why they lay them up in molds in one big operation that lets them chemically bond. But in my experience it forms a somewhat poor bond to wood, and a very poor bond to existing fiberglass, metal, plastics, ect.....

I've gone cheap and used it for repairs several times and its always had some delamination regardless of how I've prepped the existing surfaces.

Epoxy is worth the price in my mind.

The only time I use polyester is for stuff that will be gelcoated, or gelcoat repairs. Anything else gets epoxy.

Note in the pic how the old polyester glass is delaminated from the stringers. Poly and vinyl do that reliably and repeatedly in my experience.

Others mileage may vary.:twocents: