[h20fowler]

It wouldn't surprise me they're here although I'm still skeptical without proof. The NE black bears have fooled a lot of people due to their color phases. I've killed a few bears in that area and have yet to kill an actual black, black bear there. As far as ODFW goes, I don't trust a word they say. I saw a pack of wolves in 08 on the south side of 84 when they claimed that wasn't possible. I guess I imagined the 2 gray and 2 black wolves tearing apart a deer carcass at 75yds.

 

[duke1122]

The big 3 have had a sustained population of Moose for many years.

Many decades.

 

[Roady]

Yes there is one. But it's a small population and Oregon wouldn't be the first place they'd disperse to. They're distribution is located in the Selkirk mountains in far NE Washington.

There's been on again and off again discussions of relocating grizzly bears into the North Cascades. Mostly up towards the Methow valley.

A few years ago, my family and I rented a motorhome and attended a family reunion in Twisp. We made a big loop up through the North Cascades and as we were passing Diablo Lake, we had a young bear run across the road in front of us. I somehow managed not to hit it or send the RV down the steep bank, but I immediately recognized it as a griz.

I stopped at the next Ranger station and gave them a report. They didn’t seem too interested, but told me that one of their game bios would contact me. A few days later, when the game bio called me, she pretty much told me that I must have seen a brown phase black bear.

I explained, in detail, what lead me to believe it was a grizzly, roughly a year and a half to two years old. Even after explaining that I spent much of my youth living in Anchorage and had been in close proximity to numerous grizzly bears during that time, I still felt that I was getting brushed off.

This attitude really surprised me, given the amount of signage and literature in the park, spouting the “dream” of rebounding grizzly populations in the area.

Last year, while hunting in NE WA (Colville area). I befriended some ranchers and they told me that not too long after the wolves became more prevalent in the area, brown bear sightings rose. Not sure if there is any correlation.

As far as grizzlies in NE OR, if they are believed to inhabit Idaho, possibly as far south as above McCall, I would think it feasible for a few to make their way over towards OR. The area around Wallowa Lake sure looks like a place where a griz would happily roam.

 

[SHJunky]

How could anything (even bigfoot) exist with the amount of trail cams in the woods? If there was a grizz, we would have pics.

That isn't to say it couldn't happen at any time.

 

[drake7590]

I have on very good authority they are tracking 3 griz in NE Oregon.

Anyone else hear this or am I just getting the news late?

they have been looking at them for 2 years . This Year there is a sow and cub. A packer/ outfitter was the first to report them .

 

[drake7590]

How could anything (even bigfoot) exist with the amount of trail cams in the woods? If there was a grizz, we would have pics.

That isn't to say it couldn't happen at any time.

You would need horses for the group to be seen .

 

[4Irish]

I think someday we will have to open the “ODFW X-files”…..The Truth is Out There!! 😂

 

[flyjunky]

Just to be clear, this isn’t some random group of people tracking the grizzly, they are ODFW employees and this is first hand info.

 

[StrawberryMTN]

Wolves, Wolverines, Moose...grizzly bears. Not surprising...

 

[Flatfish]

In the age of electronic media.....pics of it didn't happen.

 

[Uncle G]

Thank you for post #28. That's the credibility I was waiting for.

 

[EagleEye]

My boss just emailed Jeremy Thomson from ODFW and this is his reply. " We would need to have one first that we know of....?No confirmed grizzlies in Or yet that l have heard "

l looking at his email

 

[flyjunky]

My boss just emailed Jeremy Thomson from ODFW and this is his reply. " We would need to have one first that we know of....?No confirmed grizzlies in Or yet that l have heard "

l looking at his email

like I said in an above post..how long were wolves here before they finally admitted it? How many pics and reports were out there before ODFW finally said, OK, we have wolves in Oregon.

 

[EagleEye]

like I said in an above post..how long were wolves here before they finally admitted it? How many pics and reports were out there before ODFW finally said, OK, we have wolves in Oregon.

I know lm just reporting what a high up person in ODFW is saying, not saying that Grizzlies aren't actually there.

 

[blackdog]

I know lm just reporting what a high up person in ODFW is saying, not saying that Grizzlies aren't actually there.

Likely Jeremy's going to let the cat out of the bag about grizzly tracking that going on in another bio's district. He's a really nice guy and all but certainly don't seem him to be the one to confirm if this was going on, especially if he's not personally involved. And i'm pretty sure the grizzlies wouldn't be being tracked around the Deschutes.

 

[444Marlin]

So we believe ODFW when they say they are tracking them... And don't believe them when they say they are not here because they don't want to admit it to anyone?

And there's some in WA and some in Idaho, but they won't cross state lines unless they are brought in surreptitiously by agents of ODFW....got it!

 

[DirectDrive]

As long as they have a good cocaine supply where they are at, they won't migrate ?

 

[Fifthgenhunter]

Wildlife Bios tracked wildlife with radio collars.
They track Wolves with radio collars.
They track deer, elk, big horn, Mt. goats, antelope, and other wild life with radio collars.

Are you saying that ODFW has a radio collar on a Grizz in NEO?

 

[NPhunter]

Seems like a tall tale to me, someone messing around with a person. There are thousands of cameras out in NEO and tens of thousands of hikers and hunters in the woods every year. There isn't a place in OR that doesn't have someone poking around in it, everything that borders ID and WA especially. Hells Canyon is a huge destination to rock climbers, hunters, backpackers, rafters, fishermen and gets hammered by shed hunters in the spring, same with the Wenaha. The 7 Devils don't have an established Grizzly population and neither does the Frank Church, there have been confirmed sightings of Grizz in the Frank but there isn't a known population, and ID is pretty upfront with their large predators.

If someone was to say a single male grizzly was seen in OR I might buy that because that is the type of bear that will normally roam due to expansion and territorial bears. But to say there are several which to me would indicate a female and some sort of offspring it seems very far-fetched. You can hardly take a dump without it being huge news, to think that somehow a group of government employees secretly caught some grizzlies and gave them to another state agency and then moved them to a highly populated state and dumped them seems very silly to me. Idaho and Montana won't even give Colorado wolves, I highly doubt they are going to help ODFW sneak some Grizz out of the state.

 

[dirtman]

How could anything (even bigfoot) exist with the amount of trail cams in the woods?

Bigfoot wont ever be on a trail cam as they are able to transport between multiple dimensions and know non-game camera spots so as to transport into our dimension undetected.