That would be very surprising if true.

 

I will not mention a name but this person is part of the “group” tracking them.

 

20 yeas ago we watched a grizzle on the idaho side of hells canyon reservoir from the camp just north of the copper field tunnel the grassy camp with spot to launch a boat

 

Not doubting, just surprised.

 

I'm sure one will venture away and magically find a mate near Crater Lake in the next year too.

 

Could already be there. I've been chasing rumors of bears with silver tipped hairs and humps over their shoulders for several years. I think there is something to it. A long retired ODFW employee told me he was involved in release of a "bad bear" from somewhere else, Idaho or Montana, near Crater Lake National Park many years ago .. and old, BIG male grizzly. It was done by US F&W Service and National Park Service with assistance from ODFW. It didn't officially happen, it was just .. done. It would be long dead, however, there are instances of griz and black bear mating, unusual but not unknown, and there's a chance there is grizzly DNA in the local black bear population.

This could account for the 30 inch long, large diameter turds I've found in the head of the middle fork of the Rogue. Otherwise something else folks want to ridicule is going on, take your pick.

 

I am not questioning your report but a friend of mine sweared he saw a grizzly in NE Oregon and I explained to him that black bears come in many colors other than black. He didn't believe me until he looked it up and saw they can be other shades of brown, cinnamon, blond

 

True, but black bears don't have the shoulder humps like grizz do.. like the one my wife saw in a close encounter in Klickitat county 10 years ago.. grizzlies are around just not many of them and it should stay that way.

 

Here's my two cents - Wolves got reintroduced, so it would not surprise me if there was some potential to possibly reintroduce grizzly bears. With NE Oregon boarding Idaho, I would not be shocked if a grizzly or few wondered into Oregon territory. Oregon does not have moose however, there are pictures of Moose in NE Oregon on occasion. Animals will be animals and roam where they want to roam.

 

Several pictures of moose in Wenaha this year

 

From ODFW
Is it a black bear or a grizzly bear?

Oregon is black bear country. Although native to the area, there are no longer grizzly bears in the state. The last grizzly bear recorded was killed in the late 1930s at Billy Meadows, north of Enterprise in Wallowa County. However, because black bears are often brown, people sometimes wonder what species of bear they have seen.

It's official, there are none in Oregon.
So legal to shoot?

 

You miiiight get a fine or sentence reduced in a local jurisdiction by citing information like this but ultimately as the shooter, you’re responsible to know what you’re shooting at.

 

Seems to me if you did shoot a grizzly you wouldn’t be in trouble since ODFW says there aren’t any in Oregon.

I think they said the same about wolves for a long time as well.

 

Flyjunky: Think it would be a federal issue, not state.

 

SquarePeg: I don't know how large Black Bear turds can get when feeding on grass but I found one that was a good 4+ inches in diameter and maybe 16 inches long. This was in the North Trask unit, headwaters of Jordan Cr..

 

By parasite, do you mean large furry parasites that run in packs? Cause that's what I read recently, I think in OHA.
As for griz, I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination that they would end up in OR sooner or later. I don't think they would be "reintroduced" or released, but coming from Idaho is certainly a very plausible scenario. And isn't there a small population somewhere in eastern WA? Sounds like they'd have a hard time getting to OR from where they are in ID and WA, but it's not impossible.

 

Yes there is one. But it's a small population and Oregon wouldn't be the first place they'd disperse to. They're distribution is located in the Selkirk mountains in far NE Washington.

There's been on again and off again discussions of relocating grizzly bears into the North Cascades. Mostly up towards the Methow valley.

 

I've heard stories of Griz in NE Oregon for over 20 years. Some near Hat Point, some near Lostine. They followed the wolves out of Yellowstone, why not across the Snake?
They're good swimmers.

 

I've heard stories of Griz in NE Oregon for over 20 years. Some near Hat Point, some near Lostine. They followed the wolves out of Yellowstone, why not across the Snake?
They're good swimmers.

Good swimmers indeed! Seen them swim between island in SE Alaska!

 

I'm sitting overseas and I heard of it. Yep. I was equally surprised.

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It wouldn't surprise me they're here although I'm still skeptical without proof. The NE black bears have fooled a lot of people due to their color phases. I've killed a few bears in that area and have yet to kill an actual black, black bear there. As far as ODFW goes, I don't trust a word they say. I saw a pack of wolves in 08 on the south side of 84 when they claimed that wasn't possible. I guess I imagined the 2 gray and 2 black wolves tearing apart a deer carcass at 75yds.

 

How could anything (even bigfoot) exist with the amount of trail cams in the woods? If there was a grizz, we would have pics.

That isn't to say it couldn't happen at any time.

 

How could anything (even bigfoot) exist with the amount of trail cams in the woods? If there was a grizz, we would have pics.

That isn't to say it couldn't happen at any time.

You would need horses for the group to be seen .

 

they have been looking at them for 2 years . This Year there is a sow and cub. A packer/ outfitter was the first to report them .

 

I think someday we will have to open the “ODFW X-files”…..The Truth is Out There!! 😂

 

Just to be clear, this isn’t some random group of people tracking the grizzly, they are ODFW employees and this is first hand info.

 

Wolves, Wolverines, Moose...grizzly bears. Not surprising...

 

In the age of electronic media.....pics of it didn't happen.

 

Thank you for post #28. That's the credibility I was waiting for.

 

My boss just emailed Jeremy Thomson from ODFW and this is his reply. " We would need to have one first that we know of....?No confirmed grizzlies in Or yet that l have heard "

l looking at his email

 

like I said in an above post..how long were wolves here before they finally admitted it? How many pics and reports were out there before ODFW finally said, OK, we have wolves in Oregon.

 

So we believe ODFW when they say they are tracking them... And don't believe them when they say they are not here because they don't want to admit it to anyone?

And there's some in WA and some in Idaho, but they won't cross state lines unless they are brought in surreptitiously by agents of ODFW....got it!

 

 

As long as they have a good cocaine supply where they are at, they won't migrate ?

 

Wildlife Bios tracked wildlife with radio collars.
They track Wolves with radio collars.
They track deer, elk, big horn, Mt. goats, antelope, and other wild life with radio collars.

Are you saying that ODFW has a radio collar on a Grizz in NEO?