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I've been fishing below Cedar Creek on the Sandy for the first time. I have had great luck with my own cured Amermans eggs and bobber. I've read alot of posting about snaggers and have now seen it in action. While I found the fishing methods these folks used to be very disturbing I did not see one snagged fish kept. What I did see and find very disturbing was the 30 to 50 fish cleaned in the river. Some anglers were gutting then, cutting off the head and tail and stuffing the fish into back packs. On "Old timer" broke out the filet knife processed and packed two bucks then took the eggs from a hen he had caught then tossed her and the remains of the bucks into the river. This was more disturbing than the spinner tosser's snagging fish. I checked my reg's, has something changed?
 

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Well, what can I say……. I do clean my fish there at the river. I do not cut the heads or tails off or leave carcasses. What I though of the Regs is that you can not leave carcasses. If there are replies here saying not to clean fish at the river and explanations I will stop cleaning fish at the river. BTW there are still many nice fish there at Ceder Creek (tagged three today) I am only taking bucks now because three times now I have brought home hens and find that the meat is VERY off color. How off color is still safe to eat???? Am I just too worried about it ?????
 

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I thought I smelled something fishie this morning when I went out the door.
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I don't believe it's legal to clean a fish in any way in Oregon's rivers. Now you know why. Some people use absolutely no common sense. I clean fish on the fly occasionally. However, NOT at a boat ramp or somewhere the public has to see it. Try to be good stewards of the rivers. They're ours!
 

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I believe it's against the law to leave the remains there. However, I also believe that it's generally good for the river to have thr remains left in the water. Salmon carcasses feed the river, and support the next generation of fish. But if everyone does it at one spot, hoo-eee, is it gonna smell.
 

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Hey Fish On 44!

You weren't fishing with a friend of mine, Rhonda, were you?

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I fish Cedar Creek allot and have let some remains from time to time and have no problem with it. The sea gulls in the area usually clean up the scraps or get washed into the river for others to eat. I don't leave carcass's laying around for fear of a citation from the F&G for not being able to ID the fish.
 

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I fish Cedar Creek often and never clean my fish in the river simply because there's just too many people there. If everyone did it, it would be pretty nasty. I agree with the statement about putting nutrients back into the river and if there were less people in the area I wouldn't hesitate to clean my fish on the river. I think this fact gets forgotten many times when we talk about the impact humans have on the ecosystems of our rivers. Can you imagine the amount of dead fish that lined the river banks before we depleted the runs to what they are now? Each run must have resulted in literally tons and tons of dead fish caracasses on the banks of rivers, which supplied an incredible amount of nutrients for the ecosystems near those rivers. This is why ODFW puts places carcasses on the river, they know how critical these dead fish were to the rest of the ecosystem.
Come to think of it, maybe we all should be cleaning our fish on the banks and leave as many nutrients as we possibly could in the system, thus benefitting the rest of the food chain in the area.
That would be a lot of guts and nutrients, but no where close to what once was. Just a thought.
 

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Not myself...but I have seen first hand fisherman recieve citations for cleaning fish at Cedar Creek. Not say right or wrong, just be careful.

Dan
 

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I too gut my fish at rivers edge. Other than gutting I do no other cleaning until I get home. All cleaned matter goes back into river with a huge toss. Blood splaterd rocks get a wash down. Mr. Ranger will have to tell me first hand that this practice is unlawful. If a ticket is issued I'll deal with it then. Some things that are unlawful should'nt be and somethings that aren't should be.
 

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hmmm, page 8 rule # 15 states under general rule regulation state.

The following actions are unlawful:

15. Disposal of dead animal (fish)carcasses, or parts thereof in Oregon waters.

I emailed odfw years ago and asked the same question. here's the reply.

ODFW does not site a rule regarding anything other than disposing
carcasses, etc. in Oregon waters.
To be sure no other rules are challenged, it would be safest to contact
the Oregon State Police - Wildlife enforcement Division for the answer
to this question.

Information Specialist
Public Service Representative
Information and Education Department
www.dfw.state.or.us
 

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put the carcasses above the high water mark. When the rains come they get washed into the river and are good nutrients.Then you won't get cited, just pack out the tail indicating that the fish was fin-clipped~ The OFDW books are full of confusing jibberish.
 

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I saw first hand, a couple years ago, a state police officer citing individuals for cleaning there coho on the bank of the Clackamas river. I have also seen many fish cleaned at boat ramps right in front of state officers and nothing was being done about it. Im sure it is up to the officers discretion, which I think is a crock, either all officers should site or none of them should.
 

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OSP better cite all the conservation groups, NWS, ODFW, the USFS, etc. for dumping all those excess hatchy carcasses. It's just terrible haveing all those stinky rotting carcasses in our rivers.

While we're at it, we should start bringing some bleach, 409 and brillo pads down to the river so that we can clean up some of that scummy dirt and moss full of all those nasty microbes on the rocks.
 

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PLEASE
Tell me no one on this board is dumb enough to fillet a fish in the field and NOT retain the Carcass untill they get home.
PLEASE.
No one can be dumb enough to think you can pack out fillets and a small piece of skin with a missing adipose.NO............... can't happen. :smile:
Let me see.....With a good gel cold pack I should be able to get at least a weeks worth of " wild " fish home with each one of my frozen adipose missing specimens. Hum........
 
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