Sounds good, I work by St, Johns. I have a hillside in Astoria and it really helped get an idea of what will work. I will call in a surveyor/geologist and contractor to do the final design and site work. Its a really steep site.CB, I would love to take you up on that.. I return for another visit 9/2 for a week or so.. so I will send you a PM to sync with you ok?