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Electronic tracking under the auspices of marketing support is getting more and more intrusive. I have had similar experiences after conversations or being in vicinity of people that had done a specific search. I now look at every pop up and social media ad if receive and try and figure out what I did to trigger it.

I have tried to research how and under what authorization the robo callers access my phones geospatial location. I get the call from Hilton or Wyndham because I booked a room or rooms for my crew at one of their hotels. Fine, I get that I am in their system. The calls though show on cell caller ID from a location I was in recently. Example, I drive my mom home to WA from Palm Springs after a medical issue. For the next three weeks I got robocalls showing locations along the entire I-5 corridor. Iunderstand how it works but I can’t find an opt in or out, nor law or regulation With FCC allowing it.

Last issue. Most big chain stores are now using some degree of tracking in their stores. Target was the pioneer 20 years ago with the loyalty cards using RFID chips and sensors in the aisles. Where you spent time in store triggered mailing of coupons and later email offers. Now apps on phones serve same purpose. Had a buddy that called me a conspiracy theory whacko. I bet him a case of beer I was right. We went to Target (this was 2009 or 2010) and I took his target card and we left it in the feminine hygiene aisle. Keep in mind he was a single late 20s male. The next working he had a 2 for 1 offer for tampons and maxi pads. For the record, I requested a case of Rogue Dead Guy ale; I enjoyed the complex maltiness and sweet finish of smug vindication.

Remember that Henry Kissinger famously said “ even paranoids have enemies”.
 

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I don’t agree with things, texted, transmitted on calls, or shopping being tracked and used…..but somewhere it really crosses the line when easedropping on personal conversations is done.

I wouldn’t do Facebook, snap chat, tic toc, Twitter or any of those…..mainly because I don’t care, but their censor policies sealed the deal….screw that!

Ifish is my only social venue, I don’t think much of their rules either, but I sure like reading you guys take on issues….. even the weirdos.
Just wait until you test it, with your phone off, powered down and find it still tracks you via gps/towers and ads based on what you say and where you go. Ever wonder why your cell will lose a few battery percentages when it's "off"? Only way to not have it track you is to not have a smart phone, computer etc.

Google knew where my GF's phone was and where we stopped even with it powered off for a couple days on our recent road trip. It knew what we talked about and had targeted ads when she powered it up days later. Things we never talk about like Nevada casinos, etc.

I don't really care but if you're concerned you have to not have a smart device to prevent it. They only care about ways to target you with advertising which is what they sell to companies, as far as I can tell. I wish they'd do a better job at targeting me though, like what I really want like gun ads, bikini models and steaks, you know the important things in life.
 

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I now look at every pop up and social media ad if receive and try and figure out what I did to trigger it.
Now that’s living your best life right there.


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Another government fail.
Oh don’t be to hard on them, one guy can’t remember where he is at anyway, it maybe good for him.

Maybe if I posted my bank accounts they would realize that it is a waste of time selling my info to advertisers.

So just how safe is it, while we give credit card info over the phone….out loud.

They used to hang those who stole a cow….now they can steal your entire identity…… what next.
 

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I hate it. I tried living without a cell phone for a while because of it. That didn't last long. I have found that facebook is the ones usually doing this, the app on your phone. Should be illegal.
 

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Riding down the road with dad in the truck (1953 Chev farm truck) no radio, and dad singing Hank Sr. songs, plus dozens of others.
Driving my 64 Fairlane into town with my girlfriend sitting beside me singing The Rolling Stones "Satisfaction" softly in my ear.
I saw the southern cross for the first time in march 1971 on my way home from my 1st deployment to Vietnam the last time was in 73 coming home from 2nd trip to Nam.
Charlie Daniels brings back a lot of memories too. Too many to list at this age.
 

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Riding down the road with dad in the truck (1953 Chev farm truck) no radio, and dad singing Hank Sr. songs, plus dozens of others.
Driving my 64 Fairlane into town with my girlfriend sitting beside me singing The Rolling Stones "Satisfaction" softly in my ear.
I saw the southern cross for the first time in march 1971 on my way home from my 1st deployment to Vietnam the last time was in 73 coming home from 2nd trip to Nam.
Charlie Daniels brings back a lot of memories too. Too many to list at this age.
 

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If you have the facebook app (any of them) on your phone, that's where the culprit lies almost every time you hear this story.
Good morning, Sad to say its not the apps, its the phone your being recorded. I have no apps or ever had. Snow-den exposed this and its not conspiracy it is happening.
 

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Good morning, Sad to say its not the apps, its the phone your being recorded. I have no apps or ever had. Snow-den exposed this and its not conspiracy it is happening.
One of my degrees is in software development (and have a side business that operates in that world), so I have a pretty decent savvy in how these things operate. Even if you THINK you don't have apps, phones (and all computers for that matter... which is why I choose to use Linux as my main OS) come pre-loaded with tons of software you may or may not know about. At this point, it takes a fairly savvy person to know how to rid your phone of them. There will always be some level of tracking as it's necessary for acquiring signal. But if you can learn how to access your phone's OS as root user, you can really do a lot to mitigate the damage.

My point still stands though on the original topic: The Facebook app(s) are absolutely the worst offender when it comes to invasive listening for the purpose of targeted advertising.
 

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Mobile devices these days are simply tracking devices that allow you to make phone calls, send/receive text, and search the web. It's that simple.
 

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Is there a box, or some gadget that could block or buffer this?

With 3 billion with S phones and FB….even if 50 million collectively stopped, it wouldn’t stop them. Of coarse my personal choice involves a length of rope and a overpass,…..

To bad there isn’t at least a way of piping in an annoying siren right into the mic, 24 hrs a day, kind of like ear bugs for phones. Or better yet sent some messages that misdirect their system.

certainly can’t get help from those elected to deal with our rights.
 

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Is there a box, or some gadget that could block or buffer this?

With 3 billion with S phones and FB….even if 50 million collectively stopped, it wouldn’t stop them. Of coarse my personal choice involves a length of rope and a overpass,…..

To bad there isn’t at least a way of piping in an annoying siren right into the mic, 24 hrs a day, kind of like ear bugs for phones. Or better yet sent some messages that misdirect their system.

certainly can’t get help from those elected to deal with our rights.
I'm sure there must be an app for this! 😎
 

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The price we pay for tech and instant information at our finger tips no matter where we are... Even on a desktop if you are logged in across multiple devices, google, for example is tracking everything. I look up a business on FB it will come across Chrome as an ad. I try to lock down my stuff as best I can but you have to actively manage it with blockers and privacy settings. But that only goes so far.

And yes over the past couple of years it seems that the phone is listening as ads will pop up for products that were talked about in conversations. I'm not into coincidences so I guess I need to watch the Snowden video but I'm guessing I already know what its going to say.
 

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Is there a box, or some gadget that could block or buffer this?

With 3 billion with S phones and FB….even if 50 million collectively stopped, it wouldn’t stop them. Of coarse my personal choice involves a length of rope and a overpass,…..

To bad there isn’t at least a way of piping in an annoying siren right into the mic, 24 hrs a day, kind of like ear bugs for phones. Or better yet sent some messages that misdirect their system.

certainly can’t get help from those elected to deal with our rights.
A siren wouldn't do you a whole lot of good. These apps aren't piping your conversations to an operator somewhere listening in. It's all software - the software listens for key words which it matches in its database to its advertisers, then deploys relevant marketing. There are no real people in the line that hear/read what you're saying.
 

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I figured as much, but wouldn’t it mess with some percentage of process efficiency.

your probably right…..unless a billion people collectively did something, they could care less.
 

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A siren wouldn't do you a whole lot of good. These apps aren't piping your conversations to an operator somewhere listening in. It's all software - the software listens for key words which it matches in its database to its advertisers, then deploys relevant marketing. There are no real people in the line that hear/read what you're saying.
Until you say the right/wrong keyword or phrase.
Then somebody listens and likely records.

The NSA deployed the prototype(s) of that technology over 20 years ago.
According to Bill Binney, even before The Patriot Act was written and passed.

 
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