IFish Fishing Forum banner
21 - 40 of 73 Posts
As someone who has a 17.5' Lund Pro-V and an 18' Jetcraft (prop), I have some very strong opinions on the subject. I started this thread before I bought the Jetcraft:

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=315957

My Lund is in Minnesota, my Jetcraft is moored in the Columbia. I had my Lund out here five months last year, moored as well. I fish at least a month of fishing days a year in the Lund and more than that in the Jetcraft. Now that I have had the Jetcraft a while, my opinions are more fully-formed than they were before I bought it. Here are a collection of semi-random thoughts on the subject:

Stern height isn't so much an issue as having a full-height splash well (as high as the gunwale) or not. Many NW boats (a few Hewes models come to mind, as well as many others) don't have full-height splash wells, either. I don't see the Lund as being any less safe than any of those boats in this regard. In fact, the side height on my Lund is quite a bit higher than my Jetcraft, and I feel like I could take a wave across the side better in my Lund.

Lund isn't my first choice for a Midwest-style boat. As an earlier post suggested, Crestliner takes that title. Alumacraft would be my second, then Lund. This is mostly because I like a large rear casting deck and Lund has the smallest. The other versions of Midwest-style boats you see more of out here (Smokercraft, Fisher, Starcraft, etc.) don't hold a candle to the previous three.

If you're going to be going up skinny rivers, obviously you want a NW-style boat. If you're always fishing inland on slower water that you know well, I don't think you're gaining any advantage with a NW boat.

I LOVE fishing out of my Lund. I LOVE trolling with my Lund. This may mostly be a function of the deep V, as far as trolling. My Lund is 18-degree V. The Jetcraft is a 12-degree V. It is so much easier to hold a line with the Lund. The Lund is also quite a bit heavier. There's much more wood and storage and amenities with most Midwest boats. Mine had two live wells and a bait well. I took a livewell and the baitwell out for more room and storage.

While I'm not done turning my Jetcraft into a Midwest/NW hybrid (bow-mount Minnkota comes next), I know I won't like fishing from it as much as the Lund even after I'm done. I love having a big front deck. It's a tiller, so the "dance floor" is the whole boat. When I got a Sturgeon bite, I would actually run to the bow on the hookset to keep pressure on. If you fish walleye, you can have three or four people jigging at once. With NW boats, the bow is for the anchor, ball and rope. With MW, it's a place another person can fish. Obviously it depends on what kind of fishing you want to do. A salmon fisherman has little use for a big deck on the bow, except as a place someone with a long rod can go while you try to net their fish.

Even with the windshield being placed farther back in the boat to allow for the front casting deck, Midwest boats are usually 6-18" wider than same-length NW boats. This makes a big difference.

The Jetcraft gets on plane much easier. In fact, there doesn't seem to be an obvious point between being on plane and not. The Lund is very obvious when you're not on plane.

I've never had a problem with rivets and don't know anyone from Minnesota who has, either. That said, like the other poster, I prefer Crestliner, which has no rivets (but not because I don't like rivets). I know more people with broken welds than I do with popped rivets.

Most Midwest boats are carpeted. I love it when it's dry but not so much when it's wet. Cleaning it sucks. You wouldn't moor or store it without a cover out here.

If I knew I would only be fishing lakes, it wouldn't be a contest, Midwest boat all the way. Even now, I haven't fished anywhere my Lund couldn't have fished better than my Jetcraft. That's all that matters, really. If you're going to go into skinny water that requires a jet drive, you want a NW boat. If you're going to go offshore, you want a big NW boat with an offshore bracket or an Arima. If you mostly fish sturgeon or salmon you can go either way. If you also fish trout, walleye, bass, kokanee, muskie, pike, etc. you'll have more fun in a Lund/Crestliner/Alumacraft.

Your struggle is one of self-doubt. I had it, too. Still struggle with it. The fact remains, I love fishing out of my Lund more than any other boat I've seen in these parts. I hope I can get close with my Jetcraft. At least people won't give me funny looks, right? That's a silly reason to ditch fishing out of what makes you happy.

Good luck!
 
Well Pardner... if you can get a 737 to float in the Hudson River w/ over a 100 people on it's wings...I guess a rivited Lund is the boat to buy. Have fun with that 40+ miles out. :pray:
 
I also love my Lund Fisherman 1800!

Kind of a lot of broad sweeping generalizations here about the Lunds. :doh: Keep in mind Lund has an entire line of boats from small to over 20'ers that run the Great Lakes every day. I really don't think anyone here is trying to claim a Lund as the ocean going vessel of choice.

As far as the windshields being so far back and no room to fish: My wind shield could maybe be forward a foot at most, so sure that would give more room but not much.

Pertaining to not being set-up for rain: When I have my bow cover on, top up and side curtains on..It seems to be quite dry (and nearly identical to NW style boats).

No room to fish out back? Well there seems to be plenty of room to run my 4 cannon downriggers + 3 additional lines in dedicated rod holders out back (with top up and side curtains on) while running the tiller kicker. This is not including the other 4 rod holder slots going forward from the back of the side curtains.

Leaking because of the rivets? mine is a '99 hull and is dry as a bone.

Lund or similar boats are fine if all you do is fish lakes and the Columbia & willy on calm days.
:doh:I guess I'm surprised my Lund hasn't crumpled up, melted in the rain and sank from our NW elements. The deep-V Lunds are found running all the Great Lakes-of which we all know the conditions out there can get really nasty.

I think it really boils down to Lunds are mainly designed for mid-west, just like the various NW boats are designed for the NW. But that doesn't mean either wouldnt fish fine in either location.

For being such a great boat, I think the lunds catch a little too much flack.
 
My uncle in minnesota says lunds are very popular and they use them on the great lakes.I have been told they are a large body of water and has a reputation to get rough at times:whistle:so with that said I think they would be just as good as any NW boat of comparible width and length.Now running skinny water is a differnt app altogether.
 
I've got a 16' Lund 'Stinger' with Mariner 40 I bought in Minnesota in 1990. Very dry boat for it's size. Fished all kinds species in several states and Canada. Countless hours on the Columbia and bouy 10. Even ran a ground on a sand bar or two. Still no leaks!
 
MY friend has a lund ! i told him to look at them because he has 3 girls and a boy !

they ski better , tow inner tubes better , the wife and kids love them ! if i were to spend $20,000 dollars on a boat and had a family the lund would win every time !

my friends box latches and console are so much better then anything else ive been in ! big easy to open clove box and storage compartment boxes , and floor storage ! built to last a life time !!!

sleds and nw boats are just that - fishing boats , if the kids are all gone , and your single - a boat just for fishing might be the best choice !
 
The Columbia has worse conditions than the Great Lakes? Lol.

Would wager than over 90% of the folks paying a premium for a heavy gauge aluminum NW style boat will never put it on skinny water or in the salt. For everything else about the only things a NW style does better than midwest style is sit on the hook, keep the rain off, drink more fuel and cost more. :)
 
I'm confused at what makes a Lund tow a tube better, then an all welded boat, do the rivets make for a better ride? It depends on application! One other thing, which one holds its value better for future resale? Few things I thought when reading this thread. Nothing against a lund just never seen one on the Cowlitz, Lewis, Skykomish, Snohomish, Snoqualimie, Clearwater, or preatty much any other river except maybe right at the boat launch, I do see them in the Big C, and they catch fish watched some good ol' boys put on a clinic last springer season in a red 16' Lund watched them limit out but not before they drank a half gallon and case of beer. They were doing there own thing trolling every which way up down and across the the river it was amusing as they were about the only people catching fish. So think it depends on what you want and where/how you are going to use it. But still not seeing what makes it a better tube puller?
 
If you have the money to buy a boat, why not buy an older TJ, Alumaweld, Willies, etc.? :shrug:

In the end it will have more uses and they're better built IMO. A lot of ex-easterners from Minnesota on this topic are attempting some weather supremacy like they always do (more snow, colder weather, more rain, etc.). Well sorry to burst your bubble, but running a river with rapids is not the same as running a boat in swells. Rivers are harder on boats than open water.

I can't seem to remember the last time I saw a Lund on the Salmon River, but I can remember when I saw a TJ in a lake, on the LCR, and out in the salt.
 
lets see if this works...



my 1984 lund nisswa, 16 foot fiberglass...wide and stable. Rides smooth, nice boat.
That's cool to see a Nisswa, I thought I bought the only one ever made, had it back in the midwest and really liked it, lotsa room in it because of the lack of gunnell on the top. Actually took it out on Lake Michigan on a couple nice days!
 
When i had my 1890 prov there was only a few other lunds around you cannot beat the ride spent lots of time from bonneville to astoria in that boat some times i miss it A buddy was pricing one at the show 59k and was not everything he wanted i think he went with a ranger 61k
 
I dont think anyone has mentioned the lund as a jet boat.But what they are intended for they are just as qualified as a welded NW boat of equal length and width on bays rivers like the columbia and ocean as long as your not running skinny water lund is a heck of a boat.
 
I like Keta's comments and also have and enjoy a riveted boat. I also have a welded boat and support Chance's comments. Heavier, sturdier boats are sturdier and stronger, but they are more expensive to operate, tow and purchase. For the money, compare and buy smart.... I'm 49 and will someday shift from a sturdy, heavy welded boat to an easy to operate, lighter riveted boat, but not yet. C.W.
 
21 - 40 of 73 Posts