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Old 07-07-2014, 06:48 AM   #1
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Let this be a general trad thread that we can jaw jack about what we love. So, I'll start with... share some pics of your favorite stickbow.

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Both pics are a Liberty Longbow, Chief model.

Blacktail VL Elite

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My wife and I just got back from the Longbow Safari at Hoodoo on the Santiam Pass. Liberty Bows donated a bow for the raffle which of course I didn't win.

It was a great shoot and had about 300 archers from all over the Western States and Canada. I hinted to my wife that I would like to have another bow made as there was a number of bowyers there. I wanted another selfbow and after seeing the work of Carson Brown I didn't hesitate. I'll meet with him this week and decide on whether to use Osage or Yew and what kind of backing. The bow won't be ready for this season but looking forward to using it next year.

This will also give me an excuse to order more arrows from Ron.
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Good choice going with Carson's bow. He is very good with the selfbows.
Fun time at Hoodoo! Only broke one arrow too.

Picture is of a log cabin wall during a late season blacktail hunt up near Mt. McLaughlin.
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Behind my house with my Blacktail bow waiting for a blacktail buck to come by...



Just a photo op...



Oh, it's not all glamour and glitter!

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Walt Miller and I volunteered for an afternoon to help set up for that NALS HooDoo shoot! Looked like a fun course...once you got to the top!




Giving thanks to the Caribou Gods...lol




Pope and Young shoot in Brownsville...coming up in a few weeks!!


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"Com'on Man!" I am at work and you can't be doing this to me.....

I am so geeked for my 1st "Trad" season to get started. I have been shooting ~ 100-120 arrows per week.

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Sightsee...please share the story and some pics of your sheep hunt!

I read it when you emailed it out several years ago...but I'm sure everybody would love to it!
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Sightsee...please share the story and some pics of your sheep hunt!

I read it when you emailed it out several years ago...but I'm sure everybody would love to it!
Ok, if you insist. I'm kinda shy. Give me a few days, its not that easy to upload all the info due to the extreme environment I'm living in.
I love everybody's contributions, this is what its all about, fun in the woods and enjoying the adventure. In time with the right amount effort, timing, persistence and faith a shot will come.
Get those cameras taking pictures for our thread.
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First season with trad gear... congrats! I wish you the best of luck, there's something about knowing your going to get a shot with stickbow that's so addicting. And be sure to show us a kill if you happen to pull it off.
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Brackenbury Quest..





69 Kodiak,



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The wifes Pearson,








71 Grizzly,



I got 6 or 8 more plus a Elkstalker longbow that I ain't got pics of...My new favorite is a Neco Tellum...Cool Bow..
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Great seeing all those bow's. I had a bow years ago. By the time I admitted to myself I didn't have what it takes to hunt with a bow and quit, there was no such thing as a compound bow. Had a 54" Herter Sitka Mag, it was beautiful! used cedar arrows with it.
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I little Primal Dreams video clip to inspire us before season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUXb...yer_detailpage
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I little Primal Dreams video clip to inspire us before season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUXb...yer_detailpage
Love the Brothers of the Bow. Sliverpicker and I ran into them a few years back. I have a few signed books and videos too.

These guys get it!





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Very cool pics Brad! Definitley worth framing and a signature...
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First season with trad gear... congrats! I wish you the best of luck, there's something about knowing your going to get a shot with stickbow that's so addicting. And be sure to show us a kill if you happen to pull it off.

Thanks sightsee... I too would like to hear about this sheep hunt...
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Some more stickbows in pics.
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An another.

Some entertaining field photos you should enjoy.

An another.

My favorite game cam pic.

A small 3 year old 5x5 I called in five times, gave me some great enjoyment.
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What are some of your favorite field photos?

Another early season on the coast.

And here is some serious eye candy and yes they are all Roosy and in one month.
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A little video from RMEF with the melody of lots and lots and lots of bugling. I soon found myself in the woods. Enjoy and don't blame me if you can't concentrate at work.
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This bull is sooo sick to look at, I'd fall to pieces if I had him in stickbow range.
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I invite y'all to come to the P&Y Shoot in Brownsville July 25th weekend! It's our year to set up....and Walt's food Saturday night is to die for!



You never know who will grab you and show pics for an hour....


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You never know who will grab you and show pics for an hour....


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A bow wood question. I have access to a very old and large Myrtle that has some nice limbs anywhere from 4" -6" in diameter. I have heard that Myrtle has been used by a few people in making a self bow but that it isn't commonly used. Anyone one with experience with this wood? I'm going to go ahead and cut a couple of limbs and have them start curing for a selfbow.

Most timber companies consider Myrtle to be a weed and I have never seen one this large. I would think that if Vine Maple can be used in making a bow that Myrtle should work.
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Click on the TAO link Brad posted.. It has details and map.

Here is another that I enjoy..

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Click on the TAO link Brad posted.. It has details and map.

Here is another that I enjoy..

ELK HUNTING, A TESTIMONY OF FREEDOM- Primal Dreams - YouTube

Thanks, I was looking at the pictures and not the link.
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Good pics! The native Americans seemed to feed themselves and survive by those wooden bows just fine for thousands of years which is pretty amazing when you think about it. One of these days when I "grow up" I'll have to try it.


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Here is my obligatory bow/bull rub photo taken in the Starkey Unit in 2010. The bow is a 60", 55# draw that I made in 1992.
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We don't kill much, just do it to feel elite!
Probably only flyfish too?

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A bow wood question. I have access to a very old and large Myrtle that has some nice limbs anywhere from 4" -6" in diameter. I have heard that Myrtle has been used by a few people in making a self bow but that it isn't commonly used. Anyone one with experience with this wood? I'm going to go ahead and cut a couple of limbs and have them start curing for a selfbow.

Most timber companies consider Myrtle to be a weed and I have never seen one this large. I would think that if Vine Maple can be used in making a bow that Myrtle should work.
I've never heard of using Myrtle for selfbow material, but for risers and laminations it makes some nice eye candy!
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Good pics! The native Americans seemed to feed themselves and survive by those wooden bows just fine for thousands of years which is pretty amazing when you think about it. One of these days when I "grow up" I'll have to try it.


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Here is my obligatory bow/bull rub photo taken in the Starkey Unit in 2010. The bow is a 60", 55# draw that I made in 1992.
Your bow looks alot like my Brackenbury Drifter I bought in 1986. Nice pic, thanks for sharing!

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Only when I use my Orvis bamboo rod.
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One morning high in the Strawberries hoping the fog would lift or at least thin out so we could make a move on the bulls we could barely hear.



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Right now I'm shooting a compound, but thinking about buying a recurve or longbow. Haven't shot one since I think cub scouts. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start? Where to buy? I would like to start into it ,but budget minded. Also wood vs carbon arrows? Not trying to hi jack this thread. just saw all the photos and thought about picking up another hobby.

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I recently found these two pics of two tremendous Roosies from Cal. that you have to see.

And the other, amazing.
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Norseman just don't start out with too heavy poundage. It can mean you will develop bad shooting habits. If you join us at the Brownsville P&Y Shoot there will be lots of bows to shoot. Or you can pick up an inexpensive recurve on ebay and start with it. Most guys can start with a 45# or 50# bow. Of course the poundage of the bow will determine what arrow spine will fly good out it. Everyone has an opinion on arrows...I prefer wood arrows and make all my customer's arrows out of douglas fir or sitka spruce. Hope this helps.
If you are near a town where one of the traditional archery clubs meet you might want to attend a meeting. Lots of guys willing to help.
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Right now I'm shooting a compound, but thinking about buying a recurve or longbow. Haven't shot one since I think cub scouts. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start? Where to buy? I would like to start into it ,but budget minded. Also wood vs carbon arrows? Not trying to hi jack this thread. just saw all the photos and thought about picking up another hobby.

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Great question, here's my two cents. I don't know where you live but I know of several bowyers and we are so fortunate to have them living all over our great state. So you can share us what town you live and we'll be delighted to put you in contact. Many bowyers have loaner bows or a used bow possibly your size to try out. Or if you can get to the P&Y shoot in Sweet Home in July, there will be literally hundreds of bows and many experts to talk to in person, plus an all you can eat BBQ. Wish I could be there. You also need to decide if its recurve or longbow you want. Far as arrows go I recommend the carbons cause they are tough and come in a wide price range. But I shoot both.
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Norseman just don't start out with too heavy poundage. It can mean you will develop bad shooting habits. If you join us at the Brownsville P&Y Shoot there will be lots of bows to shoot. Or you can pick up an inexpensive recurve on ebay and start with it. Most guys can start with a 45# or 50# bow. Of course the poundage of the bow will determine what arrow spine will fly good out it. Everyone has an opinion on arrows...I prefer wood arrows and make all my customer's arrows out of douglas fir or sitka spruce. Hope this helps.
If you are near a town where one of the traditional archery clubs meet you might want to attend a meeting. Lots of guys willing to help.

Thanks for the info. I'm in St. Helens, and normally shop at xxx archery, great store, but I don't think they really do much with traditional archery, but I noticed yesterday they did have some pse takedown recurves in stock, So maybe they're starting to carry more traditional archery equipement. I'll probably just start out with a less expensive recurve, and I think I have some traditional archery stuff in the garage somewhere. Do you have any experience with Sage bows? they seem to have a decent entry level price. of course you get what you pay for most of the time. I'm also going to look into clubs in the area.

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Great question, here's my two cents. I don't know where you live but I know of several bowyers and we are so fortunate to have them living all over our great state. So you can share us what town you live and we'll be delighted to put you in contact. Many bowyers have loaner bows or a used bow possibly your size to try out. Or if you can get to the P&Y shoot in Sweet Home in July, there will be literally hundreds of bows and many experts to talk to in person, plus an all you can eat BBQ. Wish I could be there. You also need to decide if its recurve or longbow you want. Far as arrows go I recommend the carbons cause they are tough and come in a wide price range. But I shoot both.

Thanks for the info. I'm in st helens, columbia county. I'm going to look into that shoot in july.

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Old 07-11-2014, 05:55 AM   #45
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Some day I'm going to find me a great wallow to enjoy, love those pics Ron. Some field photos and a filled tag to two.

My Camas Swale extra deer tag a few years back, good eating deer.

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While in pursuit of Roosies I found this.
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My first buck with a longbow, I was so stoked over this. The season was warm and dry and I saw few deer. But I knew of a couple does living a patch of brush so a put a stand over the trail they occasionally used and at the end of the day of waiting, right at dark a spike and this buck came by. One shot kill and since I'm the worst buck hunter on the planet, never used a stand before, I was pretty happy.

This is my first black bear with stickbow. I shot him the week before elk season feeding on blackberries with my brand new Blacktail VL recurve. I had been trying for 14 years to get one with stickbow plus I always dreamed of getting a P&Y caliber bear. Well this thing weighed 300 lbs and score 18 11/16. It was overwhelming when I knelt down beside this beast. I know they get bigger but to take him on the ground with my custom bow was special. One of the many reasons why I love stickbow hunting so much.

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Who says you can't kill a trophy animal with a real bow? Once in a while we get luck. This is a 280", 5 year old, Roosie from a few years back. A very nice bull for only being a 5 yr old. Makes me wonder what he would have looked like at 7 yrs old?
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This was definitely a defining moment for me with this blacktail buck. First, I have been trying to get a P&Y quality buck with stickbow for 20 years. I have missed several dandies but after all those years I finally put it all together with this being my first record book buck with stickbow plus I took him methodically on public land. This was a brand new spot, scouted it out opening day, saw a few does, few rubs, a heavy game trail with lots of sign. I hung a stand, came back a couple days later and sat for 45 minutes in the rain. The first deer was this buck, I can't describe buck fever when it hits me, on paper but dry throat, uncontrollable shakes, sweaty palms, adrenaline rush was what I experienced when I saw him coming my way. And he had no clue I was perched 15' up in my little stand with Liberty long in hand. He did a big buck trick and held up 20 yards from the stand and veered off the trail to my right, cautiously sniffing and listening for danger. I knelt down a little and realized a shot opportunity was available. I nervously came to full draw, anchored and watched in amazement as the arrow soared to the old monarch, catching him through the vitals. He exploded off the ridge down the canyon. It was late and pouring hard so I came back in the morning to start the blood trailing and this is how I found him.

I couldn't stop smiling, the weather was perfect, the setting was perfect, the hunt was perfect, the pack was hard but worth every pulled muscle.

By the way, I didn't use trail cams or bait. I haven't gotten to go deer hunt the last couple years cause of my career but every once in a while I think of that spot and day in the woods. The buck was 8 years old, grossed 110" and was excellent tasting.
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Awesome sightsee....


How close were you on the bears?
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The bears were 15 and 20 yard shots, they traveled about 80 yards and expired.
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Some great and impressive photos on this thread, really cool. I need to take initiative because I really want to make the switch to traditional. I love the concept and simplicity.
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Some great and impressive photos on this thread, really cool. I need to take initiative because I really want to make the switch to traditional. I love the concept and simplicity.

You will dig it man... My advice. After this archery season, go get yourself a 40-45 pound recurve, longbow, selfbow, and start reading and shooting. This is my 1st year and I started out with 65# Wes Wallace Mentor. My 1st couple months I really struggled with form and strength. I wish I would have taken advice and started out with lower poundage. Anyway, I managed to fight/work my way through it.(I hope) I have shot very well the last couple of weeks. Oh, having a blast too..
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That's the plan, 45# samick sage is a good learning option I think. I doubt my hunting bow will be much over 50 lbs when I reach that point....it is a goal to switch over.
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That's the plan, 45# samick sage is a good learning option I think. I doubt my hunting bow will be much over 50 lbs when I reach that point....it is a goal to switch over.
I have encouraged several compounders to consider putting into the extra doe hunt to get started with traditional bows. Reason being is you can still do your hunts with your compound and if you have a doe tag you can look forward to a low pressure, relaxing doe hunt during the slow part of the year. You can get a feel for the mindset and equipment and hopefully enjoy yourself trying to put some meat in the freezer with a stickbow. My buddies and I look forward to this because of these reasons, we hunt from stands and the better deer herds that need thinning are near town, neighborhoods and not so many rifle hunters there plus I have way more success getting permission to hunt private property when I explain to the landowner I'm stickbow hunting for a doe. So you don't have to switch over completely cold turkey but gradually if you need to. But I just love this conversation because it goes to show just how different the equipment is and I'll bet if you get good with stickbow it will make you a better compounder for sure. Feel free to shoot us questions, there are some real patrons on this thread.
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I feel if I could become completely proficient at 20 yds, it would not hinder my ability to fill a tag. It may drop my standards a bit, but I think the trophy value would be much higher for me. I'm within 20 yds of legal elk several times a season, I just need to take the initiative. I need a bow in hand, and shooting it before I will have anymore questions, I have researched the topic a bunch.

Thanks for this thread, it rekindled my desire to get a traditional bow.
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What a great thread! I bought a Cascade Archery Golden Hawk takedown recurve with #46 and #65 pound limbs this winter from a fello Ifisher. Although I have tapered off my practicing due to working so much after this week I'll have 40 some days off before season so I plan on shooting a lot. I also have two dozen sick wooden arrows made up by Sliverpicker. Still not 100% sure if I will hunt the early deer season with the recurve yet but I like your idea Sightsee about the doe tag, I happen to have a camas swale any deer tag. As of right now my plan is to ease into it I'll use my compound during Elk season and possibly sit in a treestand the first few days of early season hoping a big enough buck comes by, if that doesn't pan out I'll definately take it on my camas swale hunt and maybe late season blacktail, I have a ride along with ODFW planned for November so hopefully I can pinpoint where some big bucks are hanging out, although if a fork n horn gives me the opportunity I will not pass it up, after all you can't eat the antlers.
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Here is another "Trad" thread I started in Dec.'13.. Some good advice and cool pics.

https://www.ifish.net/board/showthrea...tional+archery
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Just when I thought I was doing good with my stickbow this video humbles me right up. Very interesting, educational and inspiring about how our ancestors could use their selfbows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLFq...yer_detailpage
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Any pics of successful hunts with homemade arrowheads? I think that would be quite the accomplishment to harvest an animal the way the native Americans did it! And if so, any pics of the homemade 'heads?


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I feel if I could become completely proficient at 20 yds, it would not hinder my ability to fill a tag. It may drop my standards a bit, but I think the trophy value would be much higher for me. I'm within 20 yds of legal elk several times a season, I just need to take the initiative. I need a bow in hand, and shooting it before I will have anymore questions, I have researched the topic a bunch.

Thanks for this thread, it rekindled my desire to get a traditional bow.
I couldn't say any better than what you did. I have a lot more respect for the hunter with a forked horn with stickbow than any trophy taken with a compound, I don't care if it is a world record. And I've met many other hunters who feel the same way, especially and surprisingly several rifle hunters have told me the same thing. When I switched from wheels to stick, it felt like I was starting all over again. Having to learn how to do a real hunt, it was exciting. Remember, hunting should be about you but what you say and share will ultimately be reflected in how you express yourself. If you do gut it out and become competent you'll gain a deep appreciation for traditional archery, our forefathers, and receive respect from some men that put the celebrity compounders to shame. Keep me posted if you follow through with it. The best advice is make friends with a avid stickbow hunter who will encourage and motivate your nerves to the point of bursting.
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