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Old 05-06-2010, 04:56 AM   #1
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I am finally getting around to ordering that Vacmaster Vp210. I see they have 3ml bags, but has anyone used thicker bags?
Seems Uline or someone I saw had 5ml or something but I am not sure they will seal.
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:37 AM   #2
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I use atleast the 4 mil in mine and 5 if i can get them the 3 mil that it comes with is ok for halibut and tuna but the bones in the lingcod poke through quite a bit i have'nt had a problem sealing the 4 and 5 mil with mine
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:19 AM   #3
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You will get better results with the 4mil or 5mil bags I use the 5 mil unless I run out then I have a box of 4 mil for reserve. With the 5 mil even tuna will last for over a year with no visual change in your product.The vac packer has a seal time setting so just adjust it for a little longer and your good to go.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:27 AM   #4
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I use 3 mil have not had any problems although I have not done any boney fish I did a lot of research for the right price on bags online found homesteadharvest.com to be the best price. If you find better price please let me know.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:00 AM   #5
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I have a minipacker (about the size of the vacmaster215)I ordered retort bags for it.They are the aluminum canning bags you see tuna at the store in now.You vacuum pack the tuna the can it just like jars but way easier.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:24 AM   #6
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Will the vacmaster sealer seal retort bags for canning also where do you buy them.
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Thanks to all of you for your replies.

I have never been happy with any freezing method, vac packet with a cheap unit, froze glazed and vac'd, usually just used ziploks and add water and get rid of the air.
I hope this works better.

We caught 2 more halibut this morning, sure wish I had it now! I guess this is what happens when you drag your feet.

Thanks again. Dan
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Old 05-06-2010, 05:14 PM   #8
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i have the vacuum chamber also. i will only use 5 mil for fish. it seals way tighter and stays fresher longer. spend the extra money for 5 mil. you won't regret it...
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I am finally getting around to ordering that Vacmaster Vp210. I see they have 3ml bags, but has anyone used thicker bags?
Seems Uline or someone I saw had 5ml or something but I am not sure they will seal.
Thanks in advance?
Dan,
I switched last year to a much better machine. I haven't had problems sealing fish with the 3mil bags, but something like jerky or dried pears have to be wrapped or they will poke a hole in the bag. Looks like next time I'll bump up to at least 4mil bags.

I also found you get a better seal if you fill the bag up. In other words a large tuna loin in the center leaves too much area on both sides, better to slice in half and fill the bag side to side. If the product doesn't go all the way to the end of the bag, trim the bag, the less air space in the bag before vacuuming the better.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:42 PM   #10
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Wow, for that price does it clean the fish too?!?!

Looks like a nice machine. . .but I will stick w/ my little foodsaver till I wear it out.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:23 PM   #11
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You might consider the price you are paying for your foodsaver bags 30 to 40 cents per bag compared to the 3 cents per bag for vacmaster bags not to mention the bags come sealed on three sides and always seal even a bag of liquid if you want. I have been through several food savers the last couple of years but I do a lot of fishing. I had to convince my wife that a 1100.00 was justifiable but she uses the vacmaster more than me and said she does not miss the trips to costco for bags at the tune of 40.00 bucks a pop for foodsaver bags every time I return from a fishing trip.
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:03 AM   #12
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Wow, for that price does it clean the fish too?!?!

Looks like a nice machine. . .but I will stick w/ my little foodsaver till I wear it out.
Really all depends how much fish you catch
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:04 PM   #13
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I buy all my stuff from a guy named Thom i forget the name of his company.You will have to buy a box of 1000 because he does not stock these bags.My machine is a little bigger than your so call Thom and ask if your machine will seal it or not.If you pm me your address I will send you a few bags to try.

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Old 05-07-2010, 09:01 PM   #14
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thanks for the suggestions. I am estimating my cost around 20 cents / bag for the foodsaver (22 ft rolls at ~$6/roll and 8" per bag). I totally agree the bags are a major rip-off. I bought in bulk w/ some guys through the Foodsaver website.
Compared to the boat gas contributions, gear, lodging, that doesn't seem that bad to me. maybe I have to see one in use. . .I'll help you put up tuna for an hour this summer?? Can you really seal a bag of liquid??

and Vudo - I'm catching plenty of fish, thanks though.

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No reservations,

thanks for the suggestions. I am estimating my cost around 20 cents / bag for the foodsaver (22 ft rolls at ~$6/roll and 8" per bag). I totally agree the bags are a major rip-off. I bought in bulk w/ some guys through the Foodsaver website.
Compared to the boat gas contributions, gear, lodging, that doesn't seem that bad to me. maybe I have to see one in use. . .I'll help you put up tuna for an hour this summer?? Can you really seal a bag of liquid??

and Vudo - I'm catching plenty of fish, thanks though.

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I know you do Dylan. And thanks sharing your knowledge.
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Can anyone tell if you seal chamber bag in a vacuum sealer? Ibought one from Cabelas last year and it works great.But the bag are thin and spendy.
Is there anyone in the Aloha area that has acouple bag I could try out?
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:58 AM   #17
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No they are not compatible the foodsaver bags have the texture on them which allows air to be sucked through them like little canals . poly bags are smooth.
Dylan that sounds great we will get together and seal a few up sometime I will be going over for the opener maybe some fresh halibut on the way. Also liquid works fine just did some clamming and sealed a bunch of them up in milk anxious to see how they taste after being frozen

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Old 05-08-2010, 09:47 AM   #18
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Ok guys I have had a lot of you guys pm me on retort bags.They work way better than glass.Rather than saving those jars you just throw the bags away when you are done.If you go to www.vacuumpackers.com on the left side look for "canning with a vacuum packer" you can watch the video.The machine in the video is the same machine I use.The guys name is Thom his number is 425-264-0195 tell him Eli sent you for the same retort bags I have.The bags do come in diffrent sizes but I thought this was the perfect size.Most machines come with a heat bar and a cut off wire.Thom does a lot of repair aswell as sales and we modified my machine to have a double raised heat bar and no cut off wire.I tried it both ways and a double heat wire worked way better.I am sure he can do this to any chamber style machine.
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Ok guys I have had a lot of you guys pm me on retort bags.They work way better than glass.Rather than saving those jars you just throw the bags away when you are done.If you go to www.vacuumpackers.com on the left side look for "canning with a vacuum packer" you can watch the video.The machine in the video is the same machine I use.The guys name is Thom his number is 425-264-0195 tell him Eli sent you for the same retort bags I have.The bags do come in diffrent sizes but I thought this was the perfect size.Most machines come with a heat bar and a cut off wire.Thom does a lot of repair aswell as sales and we modified my machine to have a double raised heat bar and no cut off wire.I tried it both ways and a double heat wire worked way better.I am sure he can do this to any chamber style machine.
Thanks for the info. I now want one of those!
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:25 AM   #20
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My wife chewed my butt when I first bought the machine.We already had a external vacuum packer that I would drag out of the closet to use.She did not under stand just why we needed a $2000 vacuum packer.Now every thing that goes in the frig is vacuum packed.She uses it more than me.
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saran wrap or aluminum foil no difference it dont last that long in my freezer burn in my freezer.
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Ok guys I have had a lot of you guys pm me on retort bags.They work way better than glass.Rather than saving those jars you just throw the bags away when you are done.If you go to www.vacuumpackers.com on the left side look for "canning with a vacuum packer" you can watch the video.The machine in the video is the same machine I use.The guys name is Thom his number is 425-264-0195 tell him Eli sent you for the same retort bags I have.The bags do come in diffrent sizes but I thought this was the perfect size.Most machines come with a heat bar and a cut off wire.Thom does a lot of repair aswell as sales and we modified my machine to have a double raised heat bar and no cut off wire.I tried it both ways and a double heat wire worked way better.I am sure he can do this to any chamber style machine.
I spoke with Tom today, he is very helpful and very knowledgeable. I learned more in 15 minutes then I learned in 2 days of reading up on different units.
The retort canning bags was an option I had never heard about, but I can see all kinds of new things to try.

Thanks again, you were all very helpful, Dan
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:09 AM   #23
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I recently purchased the VP-215 model and 5 mil bags. Very please with results and it was bought local to Portland area where I can get the bags. PM me if you need contact info. Grover
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I just got my VP-215 today and I am very impressed, its alot of $$ but I think its well worth it!
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Thanks for the info. I now want one of those!
check the pricing...http://www.qualitymatters.com has the VP215 for $1295.00 $200 cheaper and they are in Tualitin.
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I use atleast the 4 mil in mine and 5 if i can get them the 3 mil that it comes with is ok for halibut and tuna but the bones in the lingcod poke through quite a bit i have'nt had a problem sealing the 4 and 5 mil with mine

4 and 5 mil are available from qualitymatters.com they are in Tualitin. If you want to save money and shipping. I only saw a couple of sizes in 5 mil but alot of sizes in the 4 mil and every imaginable size in the 3 mil.
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4 and 5 mil are available from qualitymatters.com they are in Tualitin. If you want to save money and shipping. I only saw a couple of sizes in 5 mil but alot of sizes in the 4 mil and every imaginable size in the 3 mil.
And he's a great guy - will get you 5 mil bags in any size available in a day or two - use the 5 mil, the cost is negligible and the finished product is so much better.
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