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Old 10-13-2020, 07:06 AM   #1
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The river peaked yesterday morning around 7 am at 2340 cfs and now 24 hrs later has dropped down to 1210 cfs as of 7:45 am (8.91' if you go by height instead of flow). For the areas I fish this is a great dropping fall height for Silvers.

However, visibility this morning is in the 6-10" range. As silty/muddy as you will ever see it. I am gonna save my effort for another day.

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Old 10-13-2020, 10:34 AM   #2
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Thanks for that excellent report, saved me a drive over to check on it.
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Old 10-13-2020, 01:23 PM   #3
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I went yesterday around 2pm to Oxbow. Running high and dirty as I have ever seen it. Plunked out my gear, had a smoke, picked up some cans and garbage others had left, and had a nice afternoon break in the weather. Didn't see a single fish roll.
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Old 10-13-2020, 03:35 PM   #4
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The river peaked yesterday morning around 7 am at 2340 cfs and now 24 hrs later has dropped down to 1210 cfs as of 7:45 am (8.91' if you go by height instead of flow). For the areas I fish this is a great dropping fall height for Silvers.

However, visibility this morning is in the 6-10" range. As silty/muddy as you will ever see it. I am gonna save my effort for another day.
I have been out a few times over the past 3 weeks or so and it seems to be silty, even when low around 7.75'. Drove over to Barton one day and the Clack was gin clear on a day the Sandy was maybe 18-24" visibility.

I was thinking there might be some kind of mud slide way upriver just off the glacier or something. I just figure I need to have scent with me.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:57 PM   #5
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Update as of 6:53 pm, Tuesday - river shot up to 3340 cfs this afternoon and is still rising. It is probably at no more than 10" visibility.

The historical record for this day is from 1960 when a flow of 4960 cfs was recorded.
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Old 10-14-2020, 10:39 AM   #6
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11:30 am Wednesday. Flow is around 1700 cfs. Clarity is worse than yesterday, less than 6”
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:31 PM   #7
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Maybe 4" vis today. No improvement yet.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:45 PM   #8
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The Sandy is pumping tons of sediment into the Columbia also. Below the eastern most mouth the visibility is very poor. I saw a lot of folks trying to fish that mess yesterday.
Above was normal color
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Old 10-15-2020, 01:02 PM   #9
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I think less then 4 inches this morning. Something is definitely “wrong” upstream. Had snow on the mountain last night, water dropped over a foot and clarity is even worse.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:02 AM   #10
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It was not very fishy up high, I can tell you that.


A literal tons of silt from the mountain.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:17 AM   #11
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I lost a pair of Costa sunglasses on the sandy at the hatchery a couple weeks ago of anyone was up there.
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Old 10-17-2020, 04:05 PM   #12
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Any eyes on reports? It should be clear or clearing but wasn’t last time I checked.
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Any eyes on reports? It should be clear or clearing but wasn’t last time I checked.
looked like this this morning
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looked like this this morning
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:00 AM   #15
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That water is still brown. As bad as the pic posted previously
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Old 10-18-2020, 01:33 PM   #16
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Could some of this silt be from ash/fires earlier?
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Old 10-18-2020, 03:31 PM   #17
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Could some of this silt be from ash/fires earlier?
I don't think so. It is just Sandy light brown. Not sure what all happened upstream that makes it so very slow to clear. I mean, I think it has always been slow, but this is ridiculous. I do know that when I have hiked the Timberline Trail the Muddy Fork and the Sandy are always very cloudy. It is kind of like the White River on the other side of the mountain.
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Could some of this silt be from ash/fires earlier?
I was wondering that myself. I cancelled my trip for today because of the water color.
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I don't think so. It is just Sandy light brown. Not sure what all happened upstream that makes it so very slow to clear. I mean, I think it has always been slow, but this is ridiculous. I do know that when I have hiked the Timberline Trail the Muddy Fork and the Sandy are always very cloudy. It is kind of like the White River on the other side of the mountain.
It seems like the river has been more temperamental since they removed the damn, quicker to blow, slower to clear particularly in the summer with hot weather events. It's been a long time so now it feels normal but I don't remember having water clarity issues as much pre-2007.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:51 PM   #20
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It’s STILL muddy
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Old 10-21-2020, 04:49 PM   #21
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There was no major fire in the Sandy watershed during the big event. Not sure what this could be. Hopefully with the cooler weather, it will clear up some.
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Old 10-21-2020, 08:57 PM   #22
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The mountain was more bare than I’ve seen it in the last five years at the end of summer.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:06 PM   #23
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I picked up two in the mud, near as I can figure they must have been swimming with their mouths open when my jig slipped in!
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Old 10-23-2020, 06:03 PM   #24
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Still brown this morning.

Just me and 2 others at the oxbow boat ramp for a pretty chilly October morning.. No fish caught between the three of us, no fish missed between the 3 of us. I tried twitching jigs, eggs and spinners. Other two folks tried a few methods as well.
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:54 AM   #25
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The way I remember it from an explanation years ago. With the last big rains we had, most likely melted off a part of the glacier or cut a new channel up high in the basin.


I will not stop blowing silt till it cuts down to bedrock. Usually this happens every 3,5,8,10 years depending on the statistical math science you believe in.
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Went for a hike with the family at oxbow today. Quite a few fisherman, did not see anybody bringing a coho back to their vehicle. Water is still muddy.
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