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Old 02-13-2020, 12:18 PM   #1
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It sounds like there are a lot of opinions on exactly how a drone may or may not be legally used. Here's what I'm wondering...

Would it be legal to use a drone to explore new country for the purpose of learning the lay of the land? Of course it would be nearly impossible to not encounter animals along the way while flying a drone... That seems to be the gray area...

Any fact based thoughts on this topic would be appreciated. Are there any OSP officers on here that could weigh in?

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Delete this thread and go fly your drone on a nice summer day. It's not what your doing, it's what they can convict you of.
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Delete this thread and go fly your drone on a nice summer day. It's not what your doing, it's what they can convict you of.


Yes. Go do some summertime photography. The same as all the other people in small aircraft are doing over these areas in the late summer.
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To be safe, and ethical, and fair to other hunters, I would just never hunt an area that I flew a drone over. I think if you fly a drone in the summer, and end up hunting there in the fall, you could probably potentially get in trouble. Don't risk it. Tie those boots on a get after it the old-fashioned way: the way that doesn't open up a can-o'worms. We all have done it that way, and all survived. DS
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:54 PM   #5
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I totally agree with what has been said...

But, when does "exploring" become "scouting?" (I have heard drone scouting for game is illegal???) The week before the hunt? The day before? The day of???

I'm not trying to get a hot debate started, I'd just like to know if there are specific laws governing this issue.
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To be safe, and ethical, and fair to other hunters, I would just never hunt an area that I flew a drone over. I think if you fly a drone in the summer, and end up hunting there in the fall, you could probably potentially get in trouble. Don't risk it. Tie those boots on a get after it the old-fashioned way: the way that doesn't open up a can-o'worms. We all have done it that way, and all survived. DS
That's the problem with the way the rule is written. What if you go practice with your drone on the Willamette and then fish it a month later? Are you breaking the law then. I am absolutely opposed to using them for hunting, but I don't have a moral issue flying one around to check out the country?

The way the law is written, the intent is for looking for animals. If you are just looking over county, it's not illegal. Once again, it's poorly written. There should be an exclusion date say 5 days before the season that drones aren't allowed.
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Old 02-13-2020, 01:31 PM   #7
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That's the problem with the way the rule is written. What if you go practice with your drone on the Willamette and then fish it a month later? Are you breaking the law then. I am absolutely opposed to using them for hunting, but I don't have a moral issue flying one around to check out the country?

The way the law is written, the intent is for looking for animals. If you are just looking over county, it's not illegal. Once again, it's poorly written. There should be an exclusion date say 5 days before the season that drones aren't allowed.
I totally agree with the "5 day law" idea.... And, that's exactly what I was wondering... If there was any "5 day law" or anything of the sort. It sounds like "no," from what I am hearing.
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Most all laws are based on intent. Enforcement is based on probable cause. Guilt is based on preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
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My understanding for recreational (vice commercial use) drones is they must be kept below 400 ft AGL and within sight of the operator. If that's the case, just get off your ass and walk the ground.
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It's perfectly legal to use a drone to look at animals every day of the year. ODFW regulates hunting, trapping, and fishing, which is why the drone regulations specifically mention those activities. They have no authority over recreational drones used to locate an animal when you have no intent to hunt that animal.

key phrase: Aiding hunting, trapping, or angling through the use of drones to harass, track, locate or scout wildlife.
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Google Earth is obsolete already.. Hmmm?? Interesting..
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My understanding for recreational (vice commercial use) drones is they must be kept below 400 ft AGL and within sight of the operator. If that's the case, just get off your ass and walk the ground.
There's 0 enforcement on that rule.

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There's 0 enforcement on that rule.

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Oh, OK, go ahead and ignore it then.

Point being, leave the toy at home, get off your ass and walk the ground.
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Google Earth is obsolete already.. Hmmm?? Interesting..
Funny, I was just reading down the thread and thought the exact same thing!


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by law, in the state of oregon, the use of drones is the same as flying in an aircraft as far as hunting is concerned. You legally cannot hunt within 24 hours of flying a drone. During the offseason, the only thing you will have to worry about is if someone reports you for wildlife harassment. Don't harass animals and you will be perfectly fine.
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Finally the correct answer.
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by law, in the state of oregon, the use of drones is the same as flying in an aircraft as far as hunting is concerned. You legally cannot hunt within 24 hours of flying a drone. During the offseason, the only thing you will have to worry about is if someone reports you for wildlife harassment. Don't harass animals and you will be perfectly fine.
You can hunt 8 hours after flying a plane.

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You can hunt 8 hours after flying a plane.



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Interesting, i always thought it was 24hrs, thank you!

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You can hunt 8 hours after flying a plane.
Or having received information on the location of a game animal

Illegal to: Hunt within eight hours of having been transported by, communicating with, or having received information on the location of a game mammal from an aircraft.

Maybe that's one answer for drone scouting, can't hunt for 8 hours afterward. If they added "or a drone" at the end of that sentence it would be more clear if that's what they meant.
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Thanks everyone for the input. I have a meeting later today with OSP to gain greater clarity. I'll post what I find out.

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I met with OSP today. Here's what I was told.

It's legal to use drones to find out information about the lay of the land ANYTIME.

You SHOULD wait 8 hours to hunt after using a drone because your drone MAY be considered an aircraft.

If you locate an animal with a drone (intentionally or accidentally) and make an attempt to "hunt" that specific animal, that is ALWAYS illegal.

I hope this information helps others.
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The same rules apply for scouting tuna as well.
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I totally agree with what has been said...

But, when does "exploring" become "scouting?" (I have heard drone scouting for game is illegal???) The week before the hunt? The day before? The day of???

I'm not trying to get a hot debate started, I'd just like to know if there are specific laws governing this issue.
No different than the yuppie who hops in his other yuppie friends Cessna the day before the elk hunt to do "practice flying". Just so happens their "practice flying" over hillsides of populated elk herds. Thinks that make you go hmmmmmm
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I met with OSP today. Here's what I was told.

It's legal to use drones to find out information about the lay of the land ANYTIME.

You SHOULD wait 8 hours to hunt after using a drone because your drone MAY be considered an aircraft.

If you locate an animal with a drone (intentionally or accidentally) and make an attempt to "hunt" that specific animal, that is ALWAYS illegal.

I hope this information helps others.
Sorry to tell you this but you're going to get 10 different answers from 10 different wildlife cops. Thats just the nature of the beast. What one OSP agent tells you, the other field leo sitting over in eastern Oregon may not agree. They all have their own agenda of what they think is right and wrong.

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Bladdershy: One of my favorite elk locations was a crash site.



Agree with the 10 different LEO's, 10 different answers.
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Sorry to tell you this but you're going to get 10 different answers from 10 different wildlife cops. Thats just the nature of the beast. What one OSP agent tells you, the other field leo sitting over in eastern Oregon may not agree. They all have their own agenda of what they think is right and wrong.


Yea, but regardless of how confusing laws can be...hunting from or with aircraft is pretty well established and accepted as one. Have eyes in the sky, set the timer for when you can’t hunt.


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