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Old 09-08-2019, 06:36 AM   #1
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Angler’s West is on right now and if you’re watching, the last fish caught is a Tule. Will allow those who have a problem with ID to see what a chrome one looks like. Don’t let the chrome fool you into believing it’s a good fish.

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Old 09-08-2019, 07:29 AM   #2
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Yeah I briefly saw but didn’t watch. I did see a awfully spotty looking fish although.......we caught a clipped chrome one in the salt this year and marinated it and it was OK. ....Well I’m being nice now cause it was barely ok but it was girlfriends recipe. Every one else enjoyed it........definitely hard to eat any Chinook after eating this year’s Coho crop. Some are almost as good as Springers.....

This particular one out in the salt wasn’t all that spotty which threw me off


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Old 09-08-2019, 07:52 AM   #3
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Once they get in the river, even the chrome ones stink.
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So how does a tule compare with something Id get from a coastal Washington river? Sol duc or hump, some of the Kings i get have nearly as much fat as Springer's i see.


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Thaxor: Good question. You know those fish better than us down here who don’t fish there so let your experience be your guide. Be aware of the exterior signs that indicate meat quality like jaw development, shape of the back, egg development. A bulging gut on a chrome fish is a fish to release. The thing with Tule, we know what’s inside before we open them up.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:43 AM   #6
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I'm new to the Columbia River fishing and had never even heard of a tule till last year. The concept just seems strange to me but it's obviously real.

Appreciate the info I've learned here on what to avoid.
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Just watched it all. So that’s what a SPIN fish is...similar to Brads Cut Plug in a way...Looks like herring got bit more although.....


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You weren’t supposed to notice that Derrick.
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You posted this before the episode was over. I record all their episodes and happen to be surfing ifish when you mentioned this. So just to confirm, was it the last fish they caught in the episode the tule? Thanks
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I've been fishing those for 10 years now when they were just prototypes. Never new a company actually decided to produce them. They actually work great anchored up at Bonneville. I'll fish them alongside kwiks and very comparable results.

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Emora: I’d seen the show the day before, knew how it ended. They only caught two fish.
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Angler’s West is on right now and if you’re watching, the last fish caught is a Tule. Will allow those who have a problem with ID to see what a chrome one looks like. Don’t let the chrome fool you into believing it’s a good fish.
Good catch. Huge fan shaped red-ish anal fin, big spots on the back.
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Not entirely sure I am following this post. Is the unsaid assumption we expected the guide boat to identify the fish as a low river tile and toss it back?
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I have no expectations of anyone. I think they lost an educational moment.
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Doesn’t look like a tule to me, the spots aren’t that big and a pink anal fin means nothing. The adipose fin is not particularly big.
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I can buy that. It was a slow episode where they caught so few fish they had to show us how to snell a hook so they had time. They could have talked about different stocks and table fare. I am not aligned with some ifishers who suggest that fish must be turned back and is inedible. I’ve eaten a lot of coastal fall chinook and it is OK. Not yummy like a spring salmon or an ocean salmon or a nice upriver bright but ok and edible. My dad brought a lot of that quality meat home in my lifetime. If I would have told him to throw it back so we can catch something better he would have thrown me in.

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Doesn’t look like a tule to me, the spots aren’t that big and a pink anal fin means nothing. The adipose fin is not particularly big.

I agree. And the body shape — it’s sinusoidal, Head blunted and the scales are fine grained. I think of Tules as blockier, pointier faces, with coarser scales - but I’m not a biologist.

I’d bonk that one if I wanted fresh salmon.

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I agree. And the body shape — it’s sinusoidal, Head blunted and the scales are fine grained. I think of Tules as blockier, pointier faces, with coarser scales - but I’m not a biologist.

I’d bonk that one if I wanted fresh salmon.

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Yeah, I’ve caught springers in early May with a red anal fin, Nehalem Bay chinook in late August with a red anal fin, a lot URB’s in August and early September with a red anal fin. They all rivaled Spring Chinook in taste, but I’m not against throwing them back, more fish for me
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Yeah, I’ve caught springers in early May with a red anal fin, Nehalem Bay chinook in late August with a red anal fin, a lot URB’s in August and early September with a red anal fin. They all rivaled Spring Chinook in taste, but I’m not against throwing them back, more fish for me
Its not so much the color of the fin but the shape. The fin color, like the big spots on the back, is just a clue. That big fan shape anal fin is telling of a tule. A URB's anal fin has a tendancy to be smaller, shaped more like a small triangle, and "tuck-in" between the anus and the tail whereas a tule's anal fin is much larger, looks more like a parallelogram, and tends to be more pronounced / extends further away from the body. All of the clues together tell me that the fish was probably a tule (big spots, big anal fin, reddish anal fin, no ventral clip).

I dont care if they bonked it or not. They bought a license, they caught a legal fish, and tules are not the constraining stock this year anyway. People can do whatever they want within their legal rights, I am not here to judge. Frankly, I would have probably killed that fish too this season (slow season) as it was fresh out of the ocean (decent quality meat), and it looks like it was full of eggs (fat hen). This thread is about a learning opportunity, not trying to get everyone riled up about killing tules and/or bashing those who do.
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