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Old 09-05-2018, 05:58 AM   #1
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Usually this is a great time for good fall bait plug cutters, if you can avoid the shad and the shiners.

Has anyone gone jigging lately?

One friend said he couldn’t find them a few days ago, and a few weeks ago I had to work at it to get 50. Although I did hook about a 15 pound chinook in the nose, and chased him all around.

I was thinking about some fresh bait for Friday tuna, I wonder if tuna like shiners?

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I think if you have live bait or very fresh bait and find active fish they will eat them. I'm hoping to get to use my cast net on some anchovies Friday/Saturday and put some live bait on board. Totally changes tuna fishing.
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Lots of tight schools dinky candle fish and often anchovies up river by the oyster farms, not sure anyone every thru a net at them though.

Early this year the bay had lots of 3 to 4 inch herring, not good for much then, but could use some now.

They actually had a bait barge as a kid anchored in the bay with fresh bait, oh! and the salmon limit was 3 and charters made several trip a day......
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Looking for a spring report. February is close so the reports should be coming in. Anyone been down to the bay and try?
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As of two days ago no herring yet.
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Pretty sure there are some in. Huge number of fur bags and birds crashing just above the power lines at sawyers.
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Any herring now?
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Bump for any new intel.
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Crabbed on Saturday (2/2) and, while I did not fish, I did not see any groups of birds or fur bags. Also, nothing on the fish finder showed me big schools if herring were there.
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Full moon on 2/19. Big tides several days before & after. A good bet they'll come in during that time. Get the sabikis ready.
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Hope Wak gets his throw net, and has time to master it before then.
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Oh-oh, there's goes the herring population folks!
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I was over today doing some sea trials on a new boat. Lots of herring balls from right in front of the Coast Guard station and up river to Sawyers and even further. Fur bags were getting their fair share!
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Not yet, still practicing.

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That’s what I am wearing, 24 degrees this morning.
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That’s what I am wearing, 24 degrees this morning.
That will make it much easier to find you in newport when I am walking around with my 5 gal bucket looking for some bait.

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That will make it much easier to find you in newport when I am walking around with my 5 gal bucket looking for some bait.

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I am really bored today, and pulled out my custom cast net harvesting boat. It doesn’t get used very much and just sits in the barn, but it has plenty of room for jiggers and a elevated cast net platform in the bow.
I wanted to let it run for awhile, but my water hose is frozen.

Next week, some herring are going to die

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I was in Newport last Tuesday with friends enjoying the coast. The California seals were thick ! They were on the rock jetty in the bay and by the water front on the docks. I told a friend they were probably waiting for the herring run. Saw one guy in a kayak jigging. didn't look like he was hooking many at that time. It's almost time.
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Murray, were your FRIENDS from Canada?

Speaking of the rock jetty / west extension of the sea wall. Why did they build a rock structure ( with lots of flat rocks for the dear seal loins) and not a tall plank wall that they can’t sit on???.

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How did you know they were from Canada , Dan. Newport is always fun. Lots to do and of course Englund's is there. Everyone loves to see those darn seals. I have to keep my trap shut to maintain the peace. Aren't they cute !!! Yes honey !
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Speaking of the rock jetty / west extension of the sea wall. Why did they build a rock structure ( with lots of flat rocks for the dear seal loins) and not a tall plank wall that they can’t sit on???.





My guess the sea wall was built before the sea lion problem I know their numbers have really increased over the last 20 years.

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How did you know they were from Canada , Dan. Newport is always fun. Lots to do and of course Englund's is there. Everyone loves to see those darn seals. I have to keep my trap shut to maintain the peace. Aren't they cute !!! Yes honey !
I get a warning from my wife everytime we walk past the sea lion dock in newport to be peaceful or she will push me in with the sea lions haha.

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My guess the sea wall was built before the sea lion problem I know their numbers have really increased over the last 20 years.

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If I recall, that extension was built in the 70s. Your right there were not as many seals back then. I read somewhere that they estimated there were 600 seals in the bay during breeding season now a days.

I called a friend that jigs every year, and he said there are a few, but still nothing around the docks yet. He is thinking 2 more weeks.

I called England’s in Crescent city, and they said they were coming in, but there hasn’t been a spawn yet. I will go over there next week after the big snow.
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I thought yaquina had a sea lion problem... but it sounds like a seal problem?
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I thought yaquina had a sea lion problem... but it sounds like a seal problem?
If the pinniped hatchery was allowed to do a bit of gene editing maybe they could create a few cannibals for release in selected areas.
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I thought yaquina had a sea lion problem... but it sounds like a seal problem?
The big black ones that go....ARRR, ARRR, ARRR all day long, now the Alsea has a big seal problem ( cute little gray spotted fellows).
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[QUOTE=wak'm&stak'm;15923539]The big black ones that go....ARRR, ARRR, ARRR all day long, ]



If they could only teach them one more word like MATEY then it become more tolerable?

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Or....Bet you can’t hit me, arrr, arrr arrr.
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Lots of tight schools dinky candle fish and often anchovies up river by the oyster farms, not sure anyone every thru a net at them though.

Early this year the bay had lots of 3 to 4 inch herring, not good for much then, but could use some now.

They actually had a bait barge as a kid anchored in the bay with fresh bait, oh! and the salmon limit was 3 and charters made several trip a day......
Think I was around there when the bait barge existed! And one of the charters had topless bait girls! That didn't last long!
Was over from the valley helping my unc as a boat puller that summer!
The herring were running so thick next to the docks, it looked like a huge cloud in the water!
Port dock 7 while the Embarcadero was still being built!
36 ft wooden double ender named Ida! OLD boat!
Caught my first ever ling and halibut! But on commercial gear! So doesn't count I guess!
Went out for a week with an old retired army Col, named Ivan Allen, chasing tuners, on his 42 ft wood double ender named Dolphin.
Neat and cool old timers around Newport back then!
Then there was Bill ?? on his boat! The Pie R squared! He was a math teacher during the winter! And a bunch of others that are probably mostly gone to the BIG fishing grounds now!
Great intro to the big pond before I joined unca Sam's canoe club later that year! And got to REALLY explore the big pond!
Sure miss hanging around that waterfront! But it just ain't the same no more!
Sorry about the nostalgia trip Wak'm!! Just remembering the good ol' daze!

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The big black ones that go....ARRR, ARRR, ARRR all day long, now the Alsea has a big seal problem ( cute little gray spotted fellows).
roger...

siletz has a seal problem too.... crazy how far this has gone.... so discouraged with the mentalities that dictate these things, what's even worse is they think they are fighting for a good cause.

now they want to introduce sea otters to hopefully kill everything seals and sea lions won't eat the sport abalone fishery was terminated, because of low biomass.... how do we improve that situation??? oh, I know, bring in their biggest predator

I dove around those things in AK a lot, and they are insanely destructive... they leave NOTHING!

sorry bout the hijack and rant.... herring should be around in the next 2 weeks.... need something to talk about to keep this thread on the front page
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Fishfeet, your right, the place is hardly recognizeable anymore.

I remember the Ida and the Dolphin, but not the Pie R.
And I crabbed on the Sandra Lee in 1975 (I think)
South beach Rv Park was where they had sand drags.
You could drive on the beach
The road out to the south jetty was sand
The south jetty was about a 100 yards long.
The population sign read, 4700 people.
It was a big thing when Payless came to town.
No gates on logging road, and everyone could get wood cutting permits.
Razor clam limit was 36
Jacks seafood would can your fish for half.
Log rafts were up river
Log ships came in
You could catch all the salmon you wanted pulling a hotshot or hot pink flatfish
And, cops still just made you dump out your beer and go home.

Sure would be good to have a cup of coffee and talk about what we used to get away with. I think we better invite Roosevelt also, he has been around a long time also, and I want to hear how he really feels about seals, seal lion and otters....
2 more weeks.....

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Lots of tight schools dinky candle fish and often anchovies up river by the oyster farms, not sure anyone every thru a net at them though.

Early this year the bay had lots of 3 to 4 inch herring, not good for much then, but could use some now.

They actually had a bait barge as a kid anchored in the bay with fresh bait, oh! and the salmon limit was 3 and charters made several trip a day......
I think Neil Meester ran the bait barge. He seemed to have had his fingers into everything fishy back then. MB.
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We used to jig herring for Neil or Mr Meester to us.

When he moved from the Pre Embarcodera property, to across the street from Marks market basket. We spent every weekend on his docks, and sneaking a real crab out of his live tanks once in a while.
After loosing is son, ( in a very violent way) , he just wasn’t the same.

He would give us crab bait, if we would work the salmon eggs free from the skeins. ( he sold and cured single eggs).

He also had salmon from the hatchery that he dyed red and smoke, yuk!

2 more weeks...


When it rained we would open the hatch on the bait barge and climb inside to stay dry, while eating a role of cookie dough we bought across the street.....

I wouldn’t have traded those days for the world.

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Remember the little floating dock in seemed to be in the middle of the bay, not sure any more, the memory function. Was that a fueling station? If I would remember right we would pull up to it still dark out getting fueled up and heading out. I don't think it was bait because I was in charge of cutting and salting the bait. But it may have been.That was the days when you watched the sunset before you went off to slumber and hoped for a nice ocean. Only time I have seen the Northern Lights was on my way back to Newport from the valley after a night of fun. Had to get there before the boat took off.Got up on the pass early in the morning and got a peak at them, it was awesome and took me a while to figure out what they were. Not sure if seeing them has anything to do with the good old days.

Two more weeks?
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Sure would be good to have a cup of coffee and talk about what we used to get away with. I think we better invite Roosevelt also, he has been around a long time also, and I want to hear how he really feels about seals, seal lion and otters....
2 more weeks.....

I sure would enjoy yakkin' with you and Roosevelt about the old Newport!
But don't know when I'll get over there again!
Yup! That was my golden summer over there helping unc run his boat!
I remember the charters running constantly in and out!
1970 was a heckova good year for silvers, and 71 wasn't half bad either!
I went out on the pond from there for the first time in 69, the day after the first moon landing!
Had a friend with an 18' fiberglass. 4 of us on it!
We were hooking up before we got out of the bay! Then puking soon as we got outside!
We all limited real quick and headed back in after only 2 hrs! Much to everyone's relief! Heh heh
Had a huge nook bust the old pole I was using, but got it right up to the boat!
The owner of the boat grabbed the line instead of the net, and there she went! Good bye fishing pole!
Couldn't believe he did that!
All in all, a great first trip to the salt!
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No activity in sight from the bridge tonight at dusk.
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I am really bored today, and pulled out my custom cast net harvesting boat. It doesn’t get used very much and just sits in the barn, but it has plenty of room for jiggers and a elevated cast net platform in the bow.
I wanted to let it run for awhile, but my water hose is frozen.

Next week, some herring are going to die

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Out of couriosity, how big is your cast net? I was watching some youtube videos and the 6-8ft nets seem a bit easier to cast out than the big 10-12 footers.
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It is a 8 ft, I was thinking bigger is better, and a bit heavier 1.4 lbs per foot.

It weighs 17 pounds if I recall. It doesn’t seem to tangle very easy, which is a good thing for me.

I am not sure how fast it sinks, or anything for that matter......but thankfully I got some good advice from the experts on here.

What I did notice on some of the videos, is it looked like some of those big nets had lighter material. I have pretty big hands and there is no extra room for more net.
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Fishfeet, I remember that summer as well..... there were a lot of good years, but nothing like that summer. I was working at Point Adams unloading boats, and there were to many trollers at the dock and we had the dory fleet putting their boats on trailers and unloading from the street.

I can remember dorys with over a thousand pound delivery. There was no way to handle so many fish, so they were getting bulked out in the freezers. We were breaking frozen fish apart for months.....and they were big for silvers.

Oh the hatchery years....

It was good to hear from you...

Come on herring....
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I am spying on a boat right now in front of the house nailing herring!
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sweet Thnx I'm going this Sunday hope whether don't change
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:27 PM   #46
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Are you sure, ?..

We are planning a CC run this weekend, if I don’t have to chain up to get over the hill to catch herring, and then up there in a week....

Thanks for the report.
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:29 PM   #47
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I missed then last yer waited for good weather and they were gone by the time I was finally able to go
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I want in on the coffee reminiscing. Actually born in Toledo but grew up in Newport. Gone '69-'75, but otherwise here. Started crossing the bar in mid '50's. We use to spear perch under the docks, play chicken with the waves crashing over the North Jetty. I worked as a Fisheries Tech every school break and summers for three years. Neil Jordon had the fuel dock at Port Dock 5. There was another added at Embarcadero and South Beach Marina when they were built. Beat Cousteau's crew to Red Lake, Kodiak by a year, '69, damn it!


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Old 02-14-2019, 05:05 AM   #49
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That would great Rennie, I would sure like to meet all you old people..... now where’s my Advil. Any connection to Ferris Nursery?
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I want in on the coffee reminiscing. Actually born in Toledo but grew up in Newport. Gone '69-'75, but otherwise here. Started crossing the bar in mid '50's. We use to spear perch under the docks, play chicken with the waves crashing over the North Jetty. I worked as a Fisheries Tech every school break and summers for three years. Neil Jordon had the fuel dock at Port Dock 5. There was another added at Embarcadero and South Beach Marina when they were built. Beat Cousteau's crew to Red Lake, Kodiak by a year, '69, damn it!


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Rennie! My unc was the yard foreman at the Big Georgia Pacific plant there in Toledo for a lot of years!
He and my aunt lived on Nye St there!
Spent a lot of time running around there in my first car in the summer of 71.
Went and watched "Little big man" at the theater there that summer.
Took one of my younger cousins to watch it with me!
He ended up puking in the theater, at the sight of all the blood in the Little Big Horn battle scene.
Cute lil' gal running the theater there! Still remember her name!
She also worked at the shack there at port dock 7.
Unc bought the Ida about a year after he retired from the GP plant. Guess he was a bit bored!
He sold it about 4 years later, while I was in Uncle Sam's canoe club!
I had wanted to buy it when I got out, but it was a goner!
Last time I saw it, it only had about 2" of freeboard left! I could jab my finger into the soaked wooden bulwarks! BIG BUMMER for such a pretty little boat!
Yup! Would be great to talk to all you guy's over there some time!
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SSS is coming up. Be a good time for you oldie, moldy Newporters to set up a table in the cafeteria and have a go at it. Yes, they sell beer.
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There are many of you that love to Hi-Jack a thread.

What happened to the herring report?????????
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My buddy at the Embarkadaro has been getting herring off the dock there. The Mrs and I are heading over tomorrow with the Klamath boat, a throw net, rods and herring jigs and crab traps. Weather looks like it should be good for it. High tide is at 9:50 am so planning on launch by 7:00
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My buddy at the Embarkadaro has been getting herring off the dock there. The Mrs and I are heading over tomorrow with the Klamath boat, a throw net, rods and herring jugs and crab traps. Weather looks like it should be good for it. High tide is at 9:50 am so planning on launch by 7:00
Bring an ice auger over if you have one. You may need to drill a few holes to drop the herring jugs.?
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Lol, fixed my post
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We did drive over to CC yesterday, and there are some fish scattered around, but not that many. We probably got a couple hundred, but none have spawned yet.....
Newport next week.

Good luck keep the reports coming..
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:42 PM   #57
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Herring are in, but still very few schools and the schools are small. Hopefully many more coming soon.
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Rennie and I are giving it a shot on Tuesday and maybe Wednesday.
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What happened to the herring report?????????
Sorry bout that HZ!
But we've got a week or so yet before they show up in droves, herds, flocks, school's or whatever!
Relax! Go with the flow!
Someone will let us know before they're all netted, or jigged!
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RonM saved our day. No stores open at 6:30 and my Sabiki rigs were back in Salem.

Waiting for anyone to show up and low and behold, their came Ron.

I’d echo his report. A little over half ours were purple/black label. The rest were large blues or small purples.

Nice to be on the water and get some bait.


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