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Old 02-10-2003, 07:34 AM   #1
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Anybody besides Gregotis98 and yours truly going through boat repair hell?

It's the time to fix it up (the boat) so you can tear it up this summer in the ocean.

After 2 months and untold aggravation the yard ornament is a boat again. With any luck the time spent will pay off in non stop readiness all summer. We went for a cruise yesterday and a little sturgeon fishing. :grin:

Lessons learned include;

~Fix any damage to your skeg or anti cav plates sooner rather than later. 'Dirty' flow around the outdrive causes cavitation and increased drag. Cavitation wears prop blades, robs you of power (like smoking the tires) and degrades efficiency of your prop. It was only $70 (and a 2 week wait) to fix the busted vane on mine and I lowered my planing speed by 300 rpm.

~Wood requires regular finish maintenance. The next boat will be metal, I think.

~If you don't have time to do it right, when do you have time to do it again?

~A battery that sits a month unused needs to be charged overnight.

So, now it would be really good to go fishing. Is anyone else looking at next weekend for a bottom fish and crab trip?

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Old 02-10-2003, 07:39 AM   #2
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Hey Pilar, what else did you do to your boat, general painting & caulking & engine tune-up, or did ya add any gadgets, cup holders, air ride seats, woopie cushions? Inquiring minds wanna know!
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Old 02-10-2003, 08:34 AM   #3
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Pilar,

"Boat repair hell"!! I guess that's ONE way to describe what I've been
going through this winter! First I took the boat in for the outdrive service ...
took over two months to get it done. Parts ran me about $250 and I haven't
even seen the labor bill yet!

I then took the boat back to the builder for some warrantee type paint
repair and to have an isolation transformer installed to correct some of
the electolisis problems I've been having. He took one look at the boat and
about pooped himself. Had never seen the problems I'm having, including eating
the bottom paint off (down to bare metal).

Boat builder orders the isolation transformer, they say "no problem, got one in
stock. We'll send it out in the morning". Builder gets a call the next day ... "our inventory was messed up, can't get one sent out to you until the 18th".

In the meantime, the builder informs me that the bottom paint has to be stripped
off *totally* ... bare metal. THAT'S going to require a trip down to Toledo
to the dry-dock so they can recover the sand/paint for toxic waste disposal.
Another week out of the water!

So it looks like I will get the boat back out of dry-dock on or about the
22nd. Hopefully I can get the builder to have his electronics installer come
down to Depoe bay to install the transformation invertor that day and I can
finally get her back in the water. Dunno yet. May have to have the guy from
Curry Marine come up and install it.

I'm also in the process of working with the Harbor Master at Depoe Bay to get
some of the "bad electricity" problems solved at the port. Little things like
enforcing the the rule on 50a shore power connectors and getting
El Shaddai at the end of our dock to quit using the sump pumps with the
bad power cords to keep his crab alive.

When the boat goes back in the water we're going to have a bunch of tests
done to check the potential differences between the boat/dock/shore-power/
water/etc. to see if any of the fixes (expensive ones at that!) are helping.
At the same time they are going to check several other locations around port
to see if they can find me a "cooler" spot.

Arrrggghhh!!! I just want to go fishing! I thought *this* boat was going to
be easier/less maintainence than the dory!

As a side note, I spent Sunday getting the dory de-winterized and ready to
fish. If the weather is good next Sunday/Monday I might just take the dory out
and see if'n I can't jig up a couple of Ling Cod for the table! I might even
put out a couple of crab pots! In retro-spect, the dory was soooo much
easier than the big boat!

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Old 02-10-2003, 08:35 AM   #4
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Hey Pilar, you didn't miss a thing on Sun. at Three Arch. Ocean was awsome, but fishing was very poor, only 6 bottom fish worth keeping and no keeper size ling. We only saw about 2 or 3 very small bass balls and that's it! Maybe next week at Newport, for bottom fish and herring.
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P.S., Hey Pilar, congrats in getting your rig back together and back on
the water! Hope to see you out there again this year!!

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Old 02-10-2003, 09:06 AM   #6
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Thanks assAssin, it was worth it. Gregotis98, sorry I missed it. We usually do well out there on the first trip or two. Easy limits. Why is it different this year?

Mark Mc, improvements include a higher opening to the under bow area. This makes it possible to put the blue 55 gallon tote under the bow. Of course that meant tearing out the whole dashboard and windshield, changing it and remaking part of it. I reupped the wood bezel for the windshield. The old one was pretty bad. We spent alot of time sealing this area to keep the spray and drips out of the wiring behind the dash. I also cleaned up the ground bus bar in the stern with a new one mounted in a more convenient location. The trailer winch was replaced too. Coming soon, a handle for the passenger to cling to on rough days and a handle to help when you climb into the boat on the trailer. I ripped out the noisy bilge blowers and old hoses and replaced them.

And then some boat jewelry. We redid the pole holder mounts in Teak and added new teak step blocks near the stern. And I finally got the bait box covers, made by Ray Taber, installed. If they work as well as the bow rails he made last year, they will be awesome.

On the wish list is some new vinyl diamond plate flooring, full length, a new kicker bracket, some type of active trim tab system, a pedestal chair (like in Wak's old bluewater) to open up the deck space, and a live bait tank. Some place to store rods while running, anything has got to be better than what we do now. Ok, yeah a radar arch and Furuno radar too.

Oh and then there is the trailer, can I get an amen, Threemuch? After 2 months of sitting in the garage, the lights are rusted out.
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Old 02-10-2003, 09:18 AM   #7
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Special thanks to Kurt (Threemuch) and Tom (Puffin's Crew) for giving up 2 Saturdays (not to mention fishing opportunities) to help get the Pilar back together again. They made it possible for us to get out on the river for a bit yesterday and it made the weekend! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

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Old 02-10-2003, 10:44 AM   #8
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Amen Brother Pilar. Boat Hell it is.
Waiting on parts has never been so painful.
Got lots of new jewlery and even a couple of boat rods for Sea Lion. The Wifes Uncle is going to make me a stainless radar arch and some rocket launchers. I guess he wants to go fishing, what do you think?
Got an electric Scotty downrigger to install along with the Furuno after the arch is in place.
Of course I'm waiting on parts to fix the broken shaft and I still need to go through the carbs and the fuel delivery system, again.
The wife bought me a new 4 door Protoco crab trap too. I put line and a float on it. It looks like I'll have plenty of virgins to sacrifice this summer and I'm going to really enjoy each and every one. (Crab pot, boat rods, Idahoans, etc...)
Guess I better look over the trailer too...
ARGH, I'm with Assassin. I just want to go fishing.
After I complete the sea trial I don't plan to be at any boatless address on my days off.
I may be really hard to find in May.
Oh, did I mention the Handlines and Tuna jigs?....
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Old 02-10-2003, 10:47 AM   #9
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I hear that. My rig is down for at least another month while I save some money for repairs. I need a salt fix bad.
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Old 02-10-2003, 11:02 PM   #10
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I am with Kurt on the salt fix thing.

Big Jon is getting his gear ready for Cabo next month. Man, I wish I was able to go with them. He is hauling a 16ft (?) boston whaler all the way down, and is planning on fishing his way back up.

Glad to hear that the Pilar is back in the water, John. And thanks for the oppertunity to see just what boat ownership intails. A whole bunch of stuff, and then some!!

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Old 02-11-2003, 12:09 AM   #11
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Congrats on being done Pilar. I may be interested in a salty dog retreat for this coming weekend. It would make a good excuse for delaying the auto body repair my truck needs after pummeling that deer coming back from gator fishing. Who needs help scoring their fix? Kurt? Mr. Fisherman? I'll need a deckhand.
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Old 02-11-2003, 01:33 AM   #12
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I have to work Saturday night but it sure is tempting since my parts won't ship till next Tuesday.
Drop me an email with your contact info. I have a new rod to break in :grin: .
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Old 02-11-2003, 08:43 AM   #13
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I would be game for a salt retreat out of Newport. I don't have a lot to offer in the experience department but I have had my sled in the ocean a dozen times and have plenty of fishing gear. My wife has been itching to get into some bottom fish. If some of you guys wouldn't mind me following you out, I would love to make a run a learn something.

Anyone know what the weather and ocean plans on doing this weekend?
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Old 02-11-2003, 08:47 AM   #14
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Weather Vortex ....

Looks like our little February weather break is going to end. S winds are a bad thing. But without the wind it looks decent. 5 ft swell is an ocean day anytime. Maybe the wind will be a no show.

FZUS56 KPQR 111636
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COASTAL WATERS FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OREGON
830 AM PST TUE FEB 11 2003

COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WASHINGTON TO FLORENCE OREGON
AND WESTWARD 60 NM

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COASTAL WATERS FROM CAPE SHOALWATER WASHINGTON TO FLORENCE OREGON
AND WESTWARD 60 NM
830 AM PST TUE FEB 11 2003

TODAY
NE WIND 15 KT. WIND WAVES 3 FT. NW SWELL 4 FT AT 10
SECONDS.

TONIGHT
E WIND 15 KT. WIND WAVES 3 FT. W SWELL 3 FT AT 7
SECONDS.

WED
E WIND 15 KT. WIND WAVES 3 FT. W SWELL 4 FT AT 14 SECONDS.

WED NIGHT
E WIND 15 KT. WIND WAVES 3 FT. W SWELL 6 FT. PATCHY
FOG.

THU
E WIND 15 KT...BECOMING S 10 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. WIND
WAVES 3 FT. W SWELL 7 FT.

THU EVENING
SW WIND 10 KT. WIND WAVES 2 FT. W SWELL 6 FT.

FRI
SW WIND 10 KT...BECOMING S 20 KT EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
WIND WAVES 5 FT. W SWELL 6 FT.

SAT
S WIND 25 KT. WIND WAVES 5 FT. W SWELL 5 FT.


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Wind doesn't show, and I am game to deck on anyone's boat. Keep your fingers crossed!
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Old 02-11-2003, 01:00 PM   #16
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Let's keep an eye on the forecast and hope the wind is a no show. Allot can change this far out. Sunday is good for me also, better in fact. Do to the Valentines [img]graemlins/hearton.gif[/img] event I may be up late Friday. How about the rest of you?
Tackelbuster, we're a welcoming bunch that enjoys the safety in numbers; so please come ahead. Since your practically my neighbor it would be great to finally meet you in person.
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Old 02-11-2003, 01:30 PM   #17
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Although Garibaldi has been recently tried with mixed results, I'm going to try it with my mate on Saturday if everything works out.

For the crabs if nothing else .... mmmm crab good.
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Old 02-11-2003, 03:40 PM   #18
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Fishplay, if you are looking for a deckhand for Sunday, I am your man. Heck, I'd even go crabbing in the bay if it's rough.

I have the same V-day problems you are, I am bound to be up late Friday night.
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Old 02-11-2003, 04:13 PM   #19
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next weekend for bottom fishing trip?? NA! I went today!! :grin:
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Hey lepper, Me too!
What a gorgeous ocean and good fishing to boot! Wife and I went out of Newport and fished the inside reefs. Got our 4 lings and a basket of sea bass. Sunny, flat, one of the nicest days I can remember! Makes me even more anxious for the comming fun.
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I am feeling kinda sick (cough cough) if anyone is thinking about heading out tomorrow or Thursday.
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it wasn't one of the nicest days down here.. course I didnt get out till the afternoon, but there were some rollers out there and some of them were HIGH and steep.. but oh well...
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Kurt,
Your on. Sunday it is. Lets watch the weather to see what it does. I was thinking gators if she blows us off. Maybe a trip up to the Lewis for fresh smelt on Sat and KP on Sunday. Your welcome either way. Playing this by ear though. If them smelts is unattainable and Blue is too rough, crabbing the bay still beats autobody repair. I think it needs to warm up a tad for that. My pole barn has a wood stove but it just sits in the corner un-installed. Brrrrrrrr! I'm so easily discouraged when there's fishing to be done!
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Fishplay,
If you guys are gonna make the run on Sunday, I would love to add to the convoy. Sunday works for me just fine. I'm looking forward to meeting you. Let me know if you think Sunday will work weather and ocean wise. I have crossed the bar at Newport 4 times and crossed the CR bar 8 times while at the helm. I love the big blue and relish the few trips I have gotten out in my boat.

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Well I did the first shakedown trip on Sat/Sun and I'm going back to the blocks. #[email protected]%%@ motor isn't running right. I've got to narrow the search for the problem though before I get too worked up.

Also have all kinds of minor issues to get figured out, hatch leaks, wiper corrosion, etc..

Anyone else think that spring cleaning the boat is the same feeling as putting on wet underwear? :tongue: Hate it, absolutely hate it! [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img] If it weren't for the wife I'd let all the cushions rot, the mold grow, and the paint turn brown! :grin: [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
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Rod, you've been neglecting the other woman. Why do they give boats women's names?

Because they get ****y if you neglect them.

If you believe that then believe that 'Pilar' is mucho happy. I'm ready to get some blood on the new varathane.
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I'm with ya when it comes to keeping her afloat and running but it's the esthetics thing that I hate dealing with!

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Excellent. Shoot me an email at [email protected] or give me a call on my cell, 503.756.9078

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Weather update:


Forecast as of 8:30 PM PST on February 12, 2003
Coastal Waters From Cape Shoalwater Washington To Florence Oregon
And Westward 60 Nm
Tonight
Se wind 10 kt. Wind waves 2 ft. W swell 5 ft at 14 seconds.
Thu
S wind 10 kt. Wind waves 2 ft. W swell 6 ft at 15 seconds.
Thu Night
S wind 10 kt. Wind waves 2 ft. W swell 6 ft at 12 seconds. Chance of rain.
Fri
S wind 15 kt. Wind waves 3 ft. W swell 6 ft. Chance of rain.
Fri Night
S wind 25 kt...rising to 35 kt after midnight. Combined seas 11 ft.
Sat
S wind 35 kt...easing to 25 kt in the afternoon. Combined seas 12 ft. Rain.
Sun And Mon
S wind 25 kt. Wind waves 6 ft. W swell 13 ft.

Not looking good. That is a huge ocean. Just gotta hope something turns this storm around.

Threemuch you have mail.
Tacklebuster....pray to the weather gods.

If this trip doesn't happen. I will be in Newport the weekend of March 15th for the Tunaholic event.
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