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Old 05-21-2020, 07:54 PM   #6721
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:20 PM   #6723
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Some of you might remember a few years ago the Saltwater Sportsmen's Show rented a pool several times so we could test inflatable vests, jackets, rafts, etc. As a curiosity to see what would happen I asked Roy(BOE) to act like he was unconscious and fall face first into the pool, which he did. In just a few seconds the vest inflated and ROLLED him face up, very quickly, amazing! Even if you were knocked out it would keep your head and chest correctly above water so you can breath.
Inconvenient, too hot, yada, yada. Just wear the dam thing and stop bit%$&*$.
I was baptized in swim-pool #2, in the basement of YMCA, downtown Salem. (They are tearing it down and rebuilding as we speak and I don't trust what will result.)
I'm not afraid of 70 deg water. 50 deg water, another story. And, I've boarded and skied (is that a word?) in all of the above, except... I've never skied in waders!?
I think the question boils down to that... Would you water-ski in waders?!
I wouldn't, and I'm rethinking my gear.
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(delete every thing I said... though I meant every word and emailed them to myself.)

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Relax gentlemen. Don't ruin this thread please. Thank you.
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But, the last point is... I should be wearing a wet-suit, not waders, while approaching the unknown. And, I appreciate the VALID point.
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:08 PM   #6728
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But, the last point is... I should be wearing a wet-suit, not waders, while approaching the unknown. And, I appreciate the VALID point.
No, we should avoid being in the water to begin with.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:11 AM   #6729
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Unlike most boating adventures, our day begins with us in the water! I like these sorts of discussions and while we may not agree, it still gets each of us thinking about our own safety practices.



Boat Ramp? We don't need no stinking boat ramp!


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Unlike most boating adventures, our day begins with us in the water! I like these sorts of discussions and while we may not agree, it still gets each of us thinking about our own safety practices.



Boat Ramp? We don't need no stinking boat ramp!

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I agree, jumping out of boat's in deep water isn't usually part of the plan. This discussion has got me thinking about my situation. Ending the day in shorts and deck shoes might be a good idea this summer.

I'm due for a wader upgrade as well.

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Old 05-22-2020, 07:52 AM   #6731
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Relax gentlemen. Don't ruin this thread please. Thank you.
Sounds like a couple dorymen had a few too many last night. Sorry I missed all the drama before it was deleted
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:58 AM   #6732
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Unlike most boating adventures, our day begins with us in the water! I like these sorts of discussions and while we may not agree, it still gets each of us thinking about our own safety practices.



Boat Ramp? We don't need no stinking boat ramp!


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A random note that may be of benefit to some....

If you're launching with your wife, it's probably a good idea to give her waders that do not leak.

Hope this piece of advice is helpful to a fellow doryman!
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:05 PM   #6733
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A random note that may be of benefit to some....

If you're launching with your wife, it's probably a good idea to give her waders that do not leak.

Hope this piece of advice is helpful to a fellow doryman!

Excellent advice Dave! In my case the challenge is to find the waders that leak the least....


(Note...There was one dory out this morning. It must have been a recreational dory since they parked in the county lot. Sporty surf and it looked like the prediction was right about 5-6' swells at around 7-8 seconds. Secondary swell of a couple feet and it looked like somewhere between gentle rocking , and a fishing on your knees kind of day.)


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Sounds like a couple dorymen had a few too many last night. Sorry I missed all the drama before it was deleted [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.ifish.net/board/images/smilies/beerchug.gif[/IMG]
Not sure what happened last night. I doubt alcohol had anything to do with it though. Don't know of any doryman that drink. We're all above reproach.
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:31 PM   #6735
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Not sure what happened last night. I doubt alcohol had anything to do with it though. Don't know of any doryman that drink. We're all above reproach.
Indeed, the WCTU are toss pots in comparison.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:51 AM   #6736
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Do we need to rethink waders?
I think we always need to think and rethink almost everything we do, and I'm not just talking about fishing.

I have chest waders that have a belt that tightens below the rib cage that I wear except on the warmest days. I have fallen off my kayak twice in 4-6' swells. One of those two times I was completely under water. I know because I remember looking up at my kayak floating on the surface. I was able to get on my kayak with no problem and my waders helped me a little because they were insulated and there was air in them instead of water. I can't imagine trying to get back in the kayak (or swimming at all) with regular hip waders that totally fill up with water. I also had on a thin one piece wet suit because I was on a kayak.
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Is the beach open for launching tomorrow? It's a Monday so it should be. I'm doubtful since parking may be a problem.


I may have to go back to surfing although my wetsuits seemed to have shrunk considerably when I tried them on last year. Surfers don't seem impacted much...
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I think we always need to think and rethink almost everything we do, and I'm not just talking about fishing.
Jon has said it all in one sentence:
Whether speaking of waders, surf... or... whatever may trouble (me / us)...
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:49 PM   #6739
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I'll add the weekend forecast isn't bright:
MSW: Sa, 6 ft @ 11 sec sustained (noon).
(OK, low tides w/ clam possible in the bays: Do you want to be there?)
By Tuesday, mellowing slightly...
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Old 05-28-2020, 08:11 PM   #6740
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Have my dory in town, and wanted to test a new prop. Also thought I’d take the plunge in my waders with an expired life jacket. Kids loved it.

Breathable chest waders with a real belt.There was so much flotation between the waders and the vest it was almost difficult to get my legs down to climb in the boat. Only after I got my self vertical (by holding the boat) did they start to take on some water. If a guy wore a surfer rash guard shirt, I suspect you could bob around comfortably for quite a while in cold water. Tuna water today, 59 degrees.

Anyway, fun exercise on a beautiful day

https://youtu.be/jPG3qQ7DtFM

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Old 05-29-2020, 03:33 AM   #6741
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Nice video and good to see you had good results with the waders. I’d never seen an inflatable inflate. That was interesting too. Thanks for the video.
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Great video Tom (or actually Nell)

Thats a good exercise. A guy should have a plan for getting back in a boat.
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We should all do this when our cartridges expire. I do, when my flares expire... 01/01/????.
This video is instructive... My only experience was when the vest 'blew' pulling crab pots. I wasn't in water as shown.

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Old 05-29-2020, 09:01 PM   #6744
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Stumbled across this tonight. Might be some parts and pieces or a trailer there for someone.

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Have my dory in town, and wanted to test a new prop. Also thought I’d take the plunge in my waders with an expired life jacket. Kids loved it.

Breathable chest waders with a real belt.There was so much flotation between the waders and the vest it was almost difficult to get my legs down to climb in the boat. Only after I got my self vertical (by holding the boat) did they start to take on some water. If a guy wore a surfer rash guard shirt, I suspect you could bob around comfortably for quite a while in cold water. Tuna water today, 59 degrees.

Anyway, fun exercise on a beautiful day

https://youtu.be/jPG3qQ7DtFM
What Tom demonstrated in this video is priceless, and something that anyone here should consider doing.

What value has knowing, not guessing, if you, personally survive a man overboard scenario?. If or if not you can successfully get back in the boat?

These thoughts likely have more impact on me, who fishes solo more often than not, but even for most, who seldom if ever are on the O without someone to at least attempt to retrieve them if they take a surprise swim, it would be good to know if you could get back aboard, with or without help, and if not, what changes could be done to make it possible.

I want to do this. I've been seriously considering buying one of the electronic power killing devices anyway. Just never liked the idea of seeing my boat cruise off without me.

If I do something stupid and take a surprise swim, I may deserve to die, but I still want a fighting chance.

There is a big difference between dying fighting to live, and dying knowing you are completely screwed, and worse, knowing that you, personally, had squandered the only chance, however small, of living to tell about it. I don't think I could live with that.

I'm thinking my buddy Tom would be willing to watch me go over the side, kill the motor, and see if I can get back aboard, and stand by with a long handled gaff in case I couldn't..

In the meantime I'm researching the electronic kill switches.
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If someone went in the water isn’t the first question, can I get over/back TO to the boat? Before can I get back in the boat. How many will fall over out of a boat dead in the water rather than underway. Even if dead in the water, wind and drift will push our dories like a leaf on a pond more often than not. Waders or not getting within reach is going to be tough at best, our pfd’s don't make good aqua-dynamic swimming tools. If you can’t accomplish question one, time to evaluate that situation, before worries over getting in the boat. Personally worn/attached plb, maybe a water proof phone if they work with cold wet fingers, who knows, I know I don’t know the answer yet, but I do think about it at times.



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Stumbled across this tonight. Might be some parts and pieces or a trailer there for someone.
I should probably put you on a retainer to find dory salvage material.
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I’ll watch you go over the side Joe. Given your cat like agility I doubt you would have any trouble getting back aboard 🙂

Scott’s point is a good one. I’m a strong swimmer, but I’d have to take off the vest and waders.
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I’ll watch you go over the side Joe. Given your cat like agility I doubt you would have any trouble getting back aboard 🙂

Scott’s point is a good one. I’m a strong swimmer, but I’d have to take off the vest and waders.
Another thought on this,
If someone goes over, will you be able to get them back onboard?
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Another thought on this,
If someone goes over, will you be able to get them back onboard?
For most people, I believe I could get them back in the boat. Hopefully with their help, but also without if need be. Think about different scenarios so you don’t have to think at the time and you can react instead. Use your adrenaline, it’ll be pumping hard, it’s your friend use it.

The big key, don’t be gentle. I absolutely promise I will not be nice in this situation. Get them in. The human body can take a huge amount of abuse. I’d rather have some feel like they got the crap beat out of them when they wake up, as opposed to them being lost and/or not waking up. Handfuls of hair, beards, the proverbial atomic wedgie, arms, legs, fingers, if you need it, grab it. Crab Davit, mooring lines and cleats, use what you have. Get them half way in or next to the side and tie them off if you have to, so you can get another hold without loosing ground. If need be tie them off and call to get the help process started. You can get a break, get help started and be thinking at the same time.

Getting back to your boat if you go over. I know and have known a few solo commercial guys. They wore a harness and X amount of rope. If need be they could pull themselves back to the boat. Tied off on the chest not in back between the shoulder blades where you can’t get to the rope, and where your body positioning would have you acting as a diver board. Just another thought.



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I’ll watch you go over the side Joe. Given your cat like agility I doubt you would have any trouble getting back aboard 🙂

Scott’s point is a good one. I’m a strong swimmer, but I’d have to take off the vest and waders.
Heh heh, That cat like agility ain't what it once was. At 68, It is more like that of my 16 year old cat Hoggy, who can barely get out of the way when I come down the driveway. I have to slam on the brakes, send gravel flying and lay on the horn to even make him run these days.

Still, If I can manage to get to the boat, I think I can get back in.

If I can't get in, even with help, use the gaff. I learned how effective it can be when I rescued that 300 lb kayaker. Fully loaded with dive gear, I literally couldn't drag him more than halfway into the splashwell along side the motor.

We were drifting into big surf so I threw a clove hitch over his wrist and cleated it off, figuring I could fire up the motor and drag him out of the zone. When I got to the helm, I noticed my long gaff and decided to make one more try.

The rope around his wrist helped somewhat, but when that gaff slipped thru his drysuit into his butt cheek, he came into the boat so quickly I almost fell over backwards. By then, we were so close to the breakers that his kayak, tied off about 25 ft behind my boat, got pulled thru the crest of a wave as we got out of there. Turned out the big boy was just seasick.
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For most people, I believe I could get them back in the boat. Hopefully with their help, but also without if need be. Think about different scenarios so you don’t have to think at the time and you can react instead. Use your adrenaline, it’ll be pumping hard, it’s your friend use it.

The big key, don’t be gentle. I absolutely promise I will not be nice in this situation. Get them in. The human body can take a huge amount of abuse. I’d rather have some feel like they got the crap beat out of them when they wake up, as opposed to them being lost and/or not waking up. Handfuls of hair, beards, the proverbial atomic wedgie, arms, legs, fingers, if you need it, grab it. Crab Davit, mooring lines and cleats, use what you have. Get them half way in or next to the side and tie them off if you have to, so you can get another hold without loosing ground. If need be tie them off and call to get the help process started. You can get a break, get help started and be thinking at the same time.

Getting back to your boat if you go over. I know and have known a few solo commercial guys. They wore a harness and X amount of rope. If need be they could pull themselves back to the boat. Tied off on the chest not in back between the shoulder blades where you can’t get to the rope, and where your body positioning would have you acting as a diver board. Just another thought.

If someone went in the water isn’t the first question, can I get over/back TO to the boat? Before can I get back in the boat. How many will fall over out of a boat dead in the water rather than underway. Even if dead in the water, wind and drift will push our dories like a leaf on a pond more often than not. Waders or not getting within reach is going to be tough at best, our pfd’s don't make good aqua-dynamic swimming tools. If you can’t accomplish question one, time to evaluate that situation, before worries over getting in the boat. Personally worn/attached plb, maybe a water proof phone if they work with cold wet fingers, who knows, I know I don’t know the answer yet, but I do think about it at times.

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Scott has some very good points, and as illustrated in my kayaker story, pulling someone into a boat can be a real problem, especially if they can't help much. All of the above apply, and will be different every time.

Recently, I mentioned a PC tradition of choosing waders with oversize boots so they can be slipped out of easier. Worth considering. With waders full of water, I don't think you're likely to get in the boat.

A good option, if in or near the surf zone could be to try for the shore, not the boat. Tough decision, but must be made while strength an energy are still with you.

Getting back to your boat if you go over. I know and have known a few solo commercial guys. They wore a harness and X amount of rope. If need be they could pull themselves back to the boat. Tied off on the chest not in back between the shoulder blades where you can’t get to the rope, and where your body positioning would have you acting as a diver board. Just another thought.

Now this I have not seen, though it might work for some. As a current solo commercial fisherman and from my memories of times long past, the vast majority of solo commercial guys just depend on their commitment to never fall out of the boat. If we have to go to our knees to stay in the boat, so be it.

One thing I have seen, and even done early on, is to drag 50 feet of rope, knotted or not, from a stern cleat. This could be a life saver in some situations.

Like Scott said, and I learned from that kayaker, forget gentle if necessary. A long gaff can be a big help, preferably avoiding human flesh. I was actually trying to hook that kayak guy's belt when I got his butt cheek.
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"Getting back to your boat if you go over. I know and have known a few solo commercial guys. They wore a harness and X amount of rope. If need be they could pull themselves back to the boat. Tied off on the chest not in back between the shoulder blades where you can’t get to the rope, and where your body positioning would have you acting as a diver board. Just another thought."
About 30 years ago I helped bring a sail boat from Seward to Seattle, at night the first thing we'd do before stepping on deck would be to put on a harness and snap onto the safety lines that ran around the deck.
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I saw a video where a person alone fell overboard. He worked his way to the rear of the boat placed his feet on the skag of the motor, reached up and hit the trim button on the side of the motor, rode it up as he tilted the motor up and crawled into the splash well at the stern of the boat.
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Old 05-31-2020, 12:57 PM   #6755
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My Son and I were crabbing at the Mouth of the Nestucca in my Dory. Rather than pack the anchor back and forth, I left the anchor lodged in the sand and just untied the rope from the Dory when we would check the rings. My Son was in the Boy Scouts back then, so I ASSUMED (shame on me!) that he had mastered his Boy Scout Knots. Nope! As we were cooking crabs, I noticed my Dory heading for the ocean. (The tide was coming in, but the breeze was sending my Dory downstream. I stripped down to just my jeans and dove in. By the time I reached the boat I was flat exhausted and couldn't just kick my feet and lift myself over the side as I routinely did when we used the Dory as a swim platform with the kids. I finally worked myself back into the motor well, stepped on the cavitation plate and climbed in. I was about 35 at the time and was in pretty darn good shape, but I was so exhausted I physically could not get over the side! Just a true life situation to share.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:54 PM   #6756
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All of the above are good 'food for thought' and, not in any way to fuel debate, modern ignitions have captain-overboard kill-switch lanyards for a reason.

I've also found it too easy to lean on the helm and accidentally kill the 'key.' I've thought of relocating it because, what if it breaks off someday?
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:12 PM   #6757
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All of the above are good 'food for thought' and, not in any way to fuel debate, modern ignitions have captain-overboard kill-switch lanyards for a reason.

I've also found it too easy to lean on the helm and accidentally kill the 'key.' I've thought of relocating it because, what if it breaks off someday?
That lanyard kill switch about rolled me over in surf comming in. Hand slipped off throttle, knocked the lanyard out. Killed motor, by all means I should have rolled. I didn’t know it at the time, but at least on my evinrude controls, it does not need to be clipped in to restart.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:50 AM   #6758
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That lanyard kill switch about rolled me over in surf comming in. Hand slipped off throttle, knocked the lanyard out. Killed motor, by all means I should have rolled. I didn’t know it at the time, but at least on my evinrude controls, it does not need to be clipped in to restart.
Here I am @ 1:50 am... no intention to fish tomorrow... saying: Exactly!
Reasons for kill-switch to exist: One, very good. The other, very bad.

In the surf-zone, a dead motor should be prevented to the detriment of other fail-safes. Exactly why I upgraded my good running 70 HP Evinrude: It ran great, when I got it running. To this day, I believe the regulator was having tantrums.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:21 AM   #6759
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Kill switch stories.

*I heard about a captain who was wearing one of those remote kill switch devices. Back at the dock, he jumped out to go get the truck, leaving his buddy to motor around slowly and wait. As he walked away, the device killed the engine, leaving his buddy adrift in the ramp area for long minutes until captain got back with the trailer.

* A guy with a brand new $100,000 boat launched at Garibaldi, and couldnt get either the main or the kicker to start. After he ground his battery down about half way, I walked over to help. The second thing I checked (after fuel tank vent) was kill lanyards. Sure enough, they were not on. He put them on and vroooom...instant start.

* The one and only time my main motor failed in 16 years on my old boat was in the Tillamook jaws. The motor just died and I had to use the kicker to get back to the dock. The culprit? A corroded and shorted kill switch

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:54 AM   #6760
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When I went over the wind was a 15 kts gusting to more. If I was solo and the motor was killed I would have been too. In almost any wind you wont catch your boat swimming in waders and PFD.

Its good to have these conversations about getting back in the boat. Honestly, I'm not sure I could haul an unconscious person into my boat. I tried in a river once and had to walk the big wet dude to the edge of the river so he could walk up.
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Old 06-02-2020, 09:21 AM   #6761
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Once, while out on the tuna grounds, I had the motor shut down. It wouldn't fire back up. One of the first things I checked was the dead man switch. We just couldn't find the problem and ended up calling for a tow. Another doryman with the same 115 Suzuki we had hailed us on the radio and suggested it might be a faulty neutral safety switch. I had to get the throttle handle in just the right position to get it to fire. Our solution to the problem was to simply disable the neutral safety switch at the throttle (there is another one back at the motor that we didn't disable). Our old Johnson 88 had the neutral safety switch completely disabled and we usually started it in gear when launching in the surf.

All these safety features have their place, but they definitely have unintended consequences.
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:55 AM   #6762
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An elephant in the room is physical fitness. In many of the scenarios discussed, strength and cardiovascular endurance could make a crucial difference. Dory fishing is not yachting. In fact is closer to whitewater kayaking. We physically wrestle our boats around, and cross breaking surf ...and that's just the routine stuff. When things go bad we're dealing with catastrophicaly flooded boats in the surf, boat rollovers, and crew overboad 30 miles out, usually in waters that are man-killing cold. Strength and endurance might allow us to rescue ourselves or others. Within the limits of old age, old injuries and medical conditions, we make ourselves safer by being as fit as we can. For the young bucks, remember your strength might save a life...consider making that strength as strong as you can. Might running shoes, pullup bars, and exercise regimens be considered safety gear?
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:51 PM   #6763
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State parks 22 million budget shortfall

https://www.oregonlive.com/travel/20...shortfall.html
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:22 PM   #6764
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The article is most certainly a peek into what is going on behind the scenes in regard to the beach opening ( or not). 40 plus full time staff facing layoff and 300 plus seasonal workers not being hired for the season. The Cape being a non fee site, probably not good in terms of being staffed. Going back to the chaos, prior to the state parks managing the vehicle access on the north end certainly isn't exciting. Monday-Friday and park in the lot may be the new normal this season.Not a great thought.

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Old 06-03-2020, 08:03 AM   #6765
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There is an excellent post 2 or 3 years back about a rescue in the Buoy 10 area by a IFish poster.

He had a new Duckworth and was fishing with his wife and another guy. They saw a guide boat with 6 onboard overturn, the water was nasty.

The Duckworth crew accomplished the rescue before the CG got there. The Duckworth crew had great difficulty getting the guys out of the water. But they got them!! One was lost as he was tangled up in the gear on the guide boat and did not surface.

It is well worth finding the post and reading, it is excellent with details and discussion on what gear was used in the rescue and what other gear the Captain wished he had.

The Duckworth owner had a stern access door installed when the boat was built, specifically for future rescues.

One big problem was the guys in the water experienced hypothermia after only a few minutes and could not hold anything and could not climb onto the stern platform. A landing net was handy to snag the guys and pull them close to the boat.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:30 AM   #6766
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The article is most certainly a peek into what is going on behind the scenes in regard to the beach opening ( or not). 40 plus full time staff facing layoff and 300 plus seasonal workers not being hired for the season. The Cape being a non fee site, probably not good in terms of being staffed. Going back to the chaos, prior to the state parks managing the vehicle access on the north end certainly isn't exciting. Monday-Friday and park in the lot may be the new normal this season.Not a great thought.

Seems like a taylor made oportunnity for the Doryman's Association to step up "To protect the usual and customary access to, and use of, the public beach at Cape Kiwanda". I'd add - not just for the 2% of the flleet that fish commercially.
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Old 06-05-2020, 08:27 AM   #6767
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News from the back channel is that the beach will re-open to parking next Wednesday.

Big thanks to Senator Roblan and Representative Gomberg for helping the dory community.
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News from the back channel is that the beach will re-open to parking next Wednesday.

Big thanks to Senator Roblan and Representative Gomberg for helping the dory community.
Great news, thanks.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:41 AM   #6769
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News from the back channel is that the beach will re-open to parking next Wednesday.

Big thanks to Senator Roblan and Representative Gomberg for helping the dory community.

Just need our weekends back...
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:35 PM   #6770
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Talking with one of our Commissioners, hopefully the beach will be re-open for boat launching, (and parking) seven days a week, starting no later than Wednesday. This includes kayaks. Sounds like no public parking South of the ramp.

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Old 06-05-2020, 07:54 PM   #6771
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There is an excellent post 2 or 3 years back about a rescue in the Buoy 10 area by a IFish poster.

He had a new Duckworth and was fishing with his wife and another guy. They saw a guide boat with 6 onboard overturn, the water was nasty.

The Duckworth crew accomplished the rescue before the CG got there. The Duckworth crew had great difficulty getting the guys out of the water. But they got them!! One was lost as he was tangled up in the gear on the guide boat and did not surface.

It is well worth finding the post and reading, it is excellent with details and discussion on what gear was used in the rescue and what other gear the Captain wished he had.

The Duckworth owner had a stern access door installed when the boat was built, specifically for future rescues.

One big problem was the guys in the water experienced hypothermia after only a few minutes and could not hold anything and could not climb onto the stern platform. A landing net was handy to snag the guys and pull them close to the boat.
That was the irishrover I believe. I remember reading the story. Pretty lucky for most of the crew from what I remember that the rover was able to get to them.
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:54 PM   #6772
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one question: looking for feedback on break-away plates... do folks have a preference - I noticed three suppliers - CMC, Vance, and Bob's Machine.

Any reviews or preferences out there for folks that use them?



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CMC - https://www.amazon.com/CMC-BA-130-Br.../dp/B001F0GJTA
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Old 06-06-2020, 04:51 AM   #6773
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CMC for me and it has worked every time. It's the only one I have ever had so I can't provide a comparison to other brands for you.


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Old 06-06-2020, 07:23 AM   #6774
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I don’t think I’d have the one with the chain restriction on it. Or I would cut the chain off. I have the CMC and it works great just like the others would too. Check your HP rating and get the one you like best.



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Old 06-06-2020, 07:32 AM   #6775
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I run a CMC on my boat and have been pleased. I also have a friend that runs the Vance Mfg unit and has been happy with it—Vance has a higher HP rating.

Take note of the hinge point on the Bobs bracket—it hinges further from the transom if I’m looking at it correctly...this may not provide enough clearance between the transom and hydraulic steering when it lifts with the motor
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For efficiency on longer runs, a tilt bracket with hydraulic jacking ability would be cool.
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Old 06-06-2020, 07:29 PM   #6777
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A chain limiter is actually on my list, thanks for the reminder. Mine came up so far once, that it broke a hydraulic steering fitting. It happened bouncing up the ramp because I forgot to put in my "travel" bolt. But hitting a log or a Mola Mola out there could do the same thing.
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:21 PM   #6778
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Thanks all - sorry for interrupting the thread - but since im here...and you're here ....I have another question.... I am looking for a tilt trailer and/or a decent trailer that could be repaired or modified. I have some rollers and some other parts . PM me if you have any leads. thanks! J
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Thanks all - sorry for interrupting the thread - but since im here...and you're here ....I have another question.... I am looking for a tilt trailer and/or a decent trailer that could be repaired or modified. I have some rollers and some other parts . PM me if you have any leads. thanks! J
Might check with Soaker, Breaker Tony. I was gonna start another trailer project. He was able to get a new Baker trailer for about wash on a project trailer.



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Thanks all - sorry for interrupting the thread - but since im here...and you're here ....I have another question.... I am looking for a tilt trailer and/or a decent trailer that could be repaired or modified. I have some rollers and some other parts . PM me if you have any leads. thanks! J
What did you come up with for rollers? Most trailers can be modified to tilt fairly easily. Single axle works best on the beach.

I recently lucked out and found a set of full rollers for my Texan project. Not certain yet, but I'll probably just build a wood frame out of some 4x6 cedar I cut a few years ago. At least it won't rust.
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