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Old 12-28-2019, 09:39 PM   #1
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Happy New Year everyone. Let's make 2020 a great year. Looking forward to seeing the reports to start coming in. Remember to report your catches. We will be having 3 derbies this year and a Banquet at East Lake. We will post dates as soon as we get them confirmed. Also please fill out the catch reports on the KPO website. This data is important for both the KPO to determine new projects and also for the ODFW biologist. The reporting was low last year so lets see if we can do better this year.

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Old 01-04-2020, 05:12 PM   #2
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Saturday, January 4, Trolled for a couple hours with only a few bites to show for the effort. Water level 925, water temperature 47 degrees, weather scattered clouds and sun, air temperature in 40's, no wind. Ramp was OK with only a little mud at the bottom.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:24 PM   #3
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I'm going to head to Green peter tomorrow. Can anyone give me a report on the boat lanch
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I haven't been at Thistle Creek recently but water level is at 922 and gong down. Corp of Engineers has been letting water out 24 hours a day for the last 10 days, getting ready for the snow in mountains to melt. My opinion is launch conditions for a boat are iffy at best. However, you can always go check it out and if Green Peter is a no go then launch at Foster Reservoir on the way back.
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Saturday, January 25. Got going late (around noon) but the weather was perfect, sun and no wind, gradually becoming high overcast. Water temperature 48, water level 928, water clear. The fishing was very slow for me, both trolling and jigging, but time on the lake was pleasant. Ramp was OK.
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Sunday, February 16, on the lake from 9:30-12:30. Trolled from Thistle Creek toward the dam. Pretty quiet day for fish catching. When I switched to jigging I caught a bass pretty quickly and a small Kokanee. Water level 948, air temperature low 40's, water temperature 44, scattered clouds and sunny, no wind then a slight breeze after 11:30. Half dozen boats out.
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Saturday, February 22. Water level 952 (at bottom of lower ramp parking lot), surface water temp about 45 degrees, air temp high 30's to low 50's, sunny, a little wind after noon. Caught a few but Kokanee were about 6". Fished mainly up by Tally Creek. State Police were putting their boat in at 1:30 when I was pulling out.
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Sunday March 8th, Started late (3pm) and fished til dusk. Lots of schools with some huge groups up the Quartzville arm. (Only checked Whitcomb and out from the ramp due to wind).

Water level 963’, Only 4-5 paved parking spots available on the lower ramp. Water temperature 43.

Only caught 5 fish, 6-8 inches. Brining now. Spent lots of time messing around the new electric downriver and only caught fish on the old manual one.

Oh and the new 4 blade Solas 10”x5” can go 0.7mph at slow idle on the new to me 6hp Merc 2smoke! Even steers effectively at that speed. Finally a solution that works.
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Anyone been out lately? Finally getting my boat put back together and plan to head out in the next few days.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:56 AM   #10
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I am wondering if green peter boat launches are open?

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Old 03-26-2020, 12:34 PM   #11
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Per the Linn county parks website 3/24/20, boat ramps are open but restrooms are locked. http://linnparks.com/closures/linn-c...pen-3-23-2020/

Hoping for a trip soon myself.
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Sunday, March 29, on the lake from 9:00-11:30. Started trolling out in main lake but not much luck. Went up Quartzville arm to the 1st turn and fishing was actually quite good - for about an hour. Caught a bunch of small fish. Water level 964, air temperature 40's, water temperature 49, water very clear. Low overcast and rain and more rain.
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Has The boat ramp been a zoo lately being one of the only ramps open, thinking of taking the grandkids fishing.
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Has The boat ramp been a zoo lately being one of the only ramps open, thinking of taking the grandkids fishing.
I went Sunday, got to Thistle Creek about 7ish, 3 or 4 trailers in the lot.
Left about 1, 10-12 trailers in the lot and down on the waterline.

No drama, was a pretty nice day.
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Old 04-17-2020, 09:21 AM   #15
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Hi all,
I'm hoping to fish Green Peter tomorrow (4/18).

I've never fished it before. Hoping to get the kids into some fish.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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When you come out of the launch hang a left and fish around the island. We’ve always done decent out there. You’ll likely see some other boats there. If the winds pick up a lot go behind the island and up the Quartzville arm and fish that reach.


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Thanks Shanem! We'll give her a try!
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Quartzville Arm, just past the bathrooms and around the corner have been doing well lately. Tally Creek has been slow, as was the island this past week.

35-55 deep, 50-75 back, orange or pink, go slow .9-1.1mph, all 4 corns I had worked well.

Two limits in just over 2 hours, most 7” range, with a few closer to 9”.

The lower ramp is under water now.

Fish need to be caught!
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What do you do with 50 7” fish?
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Line them up on a piece of plywood in your yard. Stand there with you arms outstretched and take a selfie. Then post it on Internet forums.
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It’s a shame GP fish are so small on average. After making a few trips to Merwin and Yale, where you’re catching 12”+ fish it is hard to go back to GP.


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Gut them, clean well, split back and smoke whole taste like candy, granted very small candy L0L
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Do they just not get any bigger?

Too many fish or not enough food?
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Several years ago they were pretty good sized. Whatever is going on it's not good...
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Too many fish or not enough food?
Its a repeating cycle. They will have years in the future when they average 14". 7" is on the low side.
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Its a repeating cycle. They will have years in the future when they average 14". 7" is on the low side.

Hopefully that cycle comes quickly, I like that lake and the scenery but the size just isn’t worth the 1hr 50min drive when I can hit Yale or Merwin in an hour drive and get 12-14” fish. (Current no Fishing in WA restriction excluded.)


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I had heard they stocked a strain from wallowa lake kokes the couple years they were good sized. It was also my understanding they were going to stop all planting and stop the ongoing overpopulation. I don't know if planting stopped and natural spawn is overpopulating or what? but it is to bad such a nice resource isn't being better understood or managed. if there wasn't such elevation fluctuation they might be able to promote food sources in shoreline submerged plant life but maybe there are other ways to accomplish that.. to many fish not enough feed? I also thought with bass being introduced the population might better balance for larger kokes but hasn't happened yet. just some thoughts? hopefully odfw is considering some solutions for better quality kokes
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It’s a shame GP fish are so small on average. After making a few trips to Merwin and Yale, where you’re catching 12”+ fish it is hard to go back to GP.


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Shanem , how bad is Washington nonresident license for fishing Yale and Merwin I would like to go up and give it a go but I guess I was thinking sort of cost prohibitive .. maybe im wrong I hope so!!!
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I've lived here all my life and can remember jigging 12"-14" Kokanee off the dam in the late 80's. No social distancing back then cause we were shoulder to shoulder. I think the problem with GP is that they start draining the lake as soon as it fills. A few years back when the fish were decent the lake actually filled up for awhile. I also know for a fact they quit planting it with Kokanee. Still release rainbows of course. I sure wish I knew the answer but I truly believe it has to do with the lack of food caused by using gp to supplement the flows in the Willamette to protect winter steelhead smolt. Could be wrong.
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I've lived here all my life and can remember jigging 12"-14" Kokanee off the dam in the late 80's. No social distancing back then cause we were shoulder to shoulder. I think the problem with GP is that they start draining the lake as soon as it fills. A few years back when the fish were decent the lake actually filled up for awhile. I also know for a fact they quit planting it with Kokanee. Still release rainbows of course. I sure wish I knew the answer but I truly believe it has to do with the lack of food caused by using gp to supplement the flows in the Willamette to protect winter steelhead smolt. Could be wrong.
rumors for years they put mackinaw in there but ive never seen evidence other then marking some big bruisers down deep on fish finder I guess I always figured them to be healthy chinook .. but I guess my point is do you think predator species would help? I would rather see a solution to the feed shortage in someway. you might well be on to something because I was right there in the 80s as well in fact seemed like consistent 12-14 for years.. they do drain it like you say now. I wonder if some kind of better compromise could be struck between steelhead and kokanee needs.. how do we get a discussion going with corps and odfw .. no squeeks no greese right? I might head up Friday and see if we can get enough of a mess to eat.. they are small but still hit the spot..

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Shanem , how bad is Washington nonresident license for fishing Yale and Merwin I would like to go up and give it a go but I guess I was thinking sort of cost prohibitive .. maybe im wrong I hope so!!!

$84.50 for non-res annual. So not bad especially when I can get there in an hour vs nearly 2hrs to Green Peter.


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So are GP kokes known to be significantly smaller than in other lakes? I'm very wet behind the ears when it comes to kokes, so far my only time catching them was once last summer on GP with my buddy and his dad, and his dad has a nice boat with downriggers and everything. I was surprised at how small they were compared to a lot of pictures and videos I've seen but it was a fun experience nonetheless.

Now that I have a kayak and am working on my grandparents old rowboat (which I plan to pair with an electric trolling motor) I’d like to get after some kokes on my own, but perhaps somewhere like Detroit would be a better bet? Pk Yi on youtube seems to have done well there.

Any suggestions would be welcome - Signed an aspiring mid-valley-based koke fisherman

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GP is notorious for tiny fish. I just started koke fishing last 3 years and GP is always smallest of any lakes I have tried. Detroit is closest for me and my avg fish size is better there, but you have to deal with lots of big boats, skiers, wavers etc, lots of trout and small chinooks. Not to mention right now cant use ramps. If you want an old, but usable FF for your boat let me know, I would rather give it away than throw it away. It is complete and worked when I took it off last year.
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Green Peter has had larger fish, 11" to 14", in the past (about 4 to 5 years ago) but for the past 3 years they have been small. There seems to be a lot of theories about why they are now small but not many verifiable. Like most fisheries except salmon, and steelhead the ODFW doesn't seem to give a damn.

By the way the Kokanee at Odell are not as uniformly large as they were in the past.

We also saw the extra large Kokanee in Wallowa lake disappear during the last few years.
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GP is notorious for tiny fish. I just started koke fishing last 3 years and GP is always smallest of any lakes I have tried. Detroit is closest for me and my avg fish size is better there, but you have to deal with lots of big boats, skiers, wavers etc, lots of trout and small chinooks. Not to mention right now cant use ramps. If you want an old, but usable FF for your boat let me know, I would rather give it away than throw it away. It is complete and worked when I took it off last year.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is an FF?
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FF is short for Fish Finder [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.ifish.net/board/images/smilies/smilie_flagge13.gif[/IMG]
Ahh now I feel a bit silly. I wouldn't say no if you're offering, maybe send me a PM when you get a chance?
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Green Peter has had larger fish, 11" to 14", in the past (about 4 to 5 years ago) but for the past 3 years they have been small. There seems to be a lot of theories about why they are now small but not many verifiable. Like most fisheries except salmon, and steelhead the ODFW doesn't seem to give a damn.

By the way the Kokanee at Odell are not as uniformly large as they were in the past.

We also saw the extra large Kokanee in Wallowa lake disappear during the last few years.
LGB I am curious what your thoughts or theory is about these Lakes and the declining size of kokanee we are seeing with each year getting worse.. is it corp of engineers water management and changes they have been implementing under the increased water flows for salmon and steelhead runs? seems like feed shortages at green peter or shortage of predators to eliminate over populations? interested what your thoughts are and what should be done to solve this ongoing problem.. Green Peter could be a very nice option for fishing again if it were managed or so it seems?
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By the way my son Gabe and I went to Green Peter yesterday caught probably 20 kokanee, absolutely the smallest ive ever seen there in the 45 plus years ive been fishing it. we did also catch six rainbows that measured from 11" to 14" and they were all fat butterballs. they way I remember kokanee at odell used to be.. apparently no food shortage for trout. we kept a mess of the kokes and wife fried em up you could eat bones and all like finger fries...lol they were tasty and easy to clean but a far cry from the beautiful kokes I was catching out there three years ago now..
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LGB I am curious what your thoughts or theory is about these Lakes and the declining size of kokanee we are seeing with each year getting worse.. is it corp of engineers water management and changes they have been implementing under the increased water flows for salmon and steelhead runs? seems like feed shortages at green peter or shortage of predators to eliminate over populations? interested what your thoughts are and what should be done to solve this ongoing problem.. Green Peter could be a very nice option for fishing again if it were managed or so it seems?
Sorry I'm not a biologist. I just observe what has happened at Green Peter over the past 10 years and at Odell for the past 30+ years. I suspect there is a natural variation but what has gone on seems to have some unknown factor.
I do know that when the ODFW was still planting Kokanee they usually used eggs taken from the healthy fish population at Paulina.

In the last 20 years California has increased their Kokanee resources including planting in additional lakes with good results.
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Old 05-08-2020, 04:34 AM   #46
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Heard Whitcomb is opening up today? Anyone have a report from last couple days? Thanks
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:07 PM   #47
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My theory is the loud, crappy music blasting from the all ski boats has shrunk the fish.
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Old 05-20-2020, 02:07 PM   #48
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Reports of tiny Kokanee are spot on, but lots of the em and willing biters. Got my 25 this morning by noon.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:02 PM   #49
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FYI....just ran up to GP to look at the lake. It's full, thistle Crk is open as well as Whitcomb Crk. Whitcomb has a few limbs ECT on the ramp but other than that it's good to go.
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:10 PM   #50
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Or Fish feet.
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Old 05-24-2020, 03:14 PM   #51
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Fished 7:30 till 1:30...sheesh, talk about dinks! Caught several kokes slightly bigger than my corn!! Biggest was 7", but it was so skinny, I'm sure it had to swim in circles just to get wet! Oh well, it was a nice change of pace to look at something other than my back yard.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:21 AM   #52
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Any reports from the last week, thinking of going Saturday.
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Old 06-03-2020, 02:06 PM   #53
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A friend and his son got 30 GP Pencils for pickling today in the McCombe Arm. A Norwegian will eat anything I guess.
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The silence is kind of deafening but....... have we reached the 10" size for GP kokanee yet?
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:31 PM   #55
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I wouldn't bet on it. I just went for a drive up there tonight and the lake is over full. Dock at Whitcomb Crk is partly submerged. There were a few boats out but I didn't stop to talk to anyone
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Old 06-25-2020, 06:47 AM   #56
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The silence is kind of deafening but....... have we reached the 10" size for GP kokanee yet?
I will be up there fishing starting Friday 26th of june I will post my findings
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:05 PM   #57
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Fished for a couple hours on Friday, June 26, from 10-12:30. Grand kids must have been out of practice as they caught only 8" Kokanee. Water level 1010, water temperature 71 degrees, sunny and hot. Thistle Creek ramp OK except for the people fishing on the end of the dock.
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Old 06-27-2020, 09:49 PM   #58
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Will be heading there after July 4th. No DR's but have used 3 oz lead successfully in past for 42 feet. Just wondering what depth folks are runnin gear and if size is any bigger than 8 or 10 inches. Last year we had good 12-14 inchers in late july.

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Old 06-27-2020, 09:49 PM   #59
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I was up there doing my 10 hour break in on my new suzuki. Most of my time was spent running the motor at rpm's not conducive to fishing, but I probably fished 3 hours. Couldn't keep the little buggers off the hook, and worse yet, couldn't tell when they were on the hook. Finally got organized so I could keep a closer eye on the rod tips by checking both poles when I got a bite, and sending both poles down again at the same time.

Did we miss an age class?
These look like next years fish to me.

Oh yeah, 35 feet, garlic tuna corn, any hardware worked, and 0.8 to 2.0 mph.
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Fished 6-30. About five boat on the water. Water level is full. Windy and a couple passing showers. Started at the island, then by the bathroom, and finally up Quartz Creek. Tried to find a kokanee over 10 inches. No luck. Kept 17 string beans. 35 to 40 feet. Moon glow dodger and pink hoochie. Released 8 to 10. Had 15 to 20 tap the rod and reel in with nothing there! Corn thieves! Fished for smallmouth for three hours. Only found one keeper. Three trout liked the worms we were throwing for bass. Up to 12". Got to the ramp and found some nice people willing to take those dinks home. They had a couple of nice Largemouth, up to three pounds.
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