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Old 08-01-2020, 10:25 PM   #1
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Default It begins, the Mak’in Bacon build. Aug 8th photos

A new build. 22’ Koffler dory.

It’s a start.

Made a killing pig farming this year thanks to the coronafluenza 88, hence the name.

Sand blasted floors, rocket launchers on the arch, leaning post, hand holds in the strategic places, dual horn, big compass, sonar/chart, cb & vhf radios, no gunnel rod holders until I can get a feel first then probably strikers.

Utilitarian comfort all the way, big upgrade from the last ride, she’ll do me fine for a lot of years to come.

If anyone has ideas, I’m all eyes.


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Old 08-02-2020, 06:53 AM   #2
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Keep the photos coming. These build posts are very popular with everyone. Can't wait to follow your construction.
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Used to drive truck with a guy called Makin' Bacon. And I want to get in on the waiting list for a ride. Looks like it's going to be sweet. Lots of pics doing the build, pleeze?
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Koffler makes one hell of a boat, nice trailers too. My koffler sled I had was tuff as nails.. hit all sorts of suprises In the rivers running in fog/dark and barely ever dented the bottom in that thing. I’ll bet your dory will be indestructible
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Scott you should put eyes on Grants new koffler dory, It has almost every upgrade imagined so far.
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I saw Grants boat a couple times in process. Seeing the finished product would be nice, is it finished? Grants, Rusty’s and Harp Man’s boats were all used for ideas, measurements and talking about different thoughts with Kofflers. I’m hoping for a pile of pictures through this process. Seems the older I get the more I like and the more important pictures seem to be.

If anyone has thoughts or ideas I’m open to all of them, until it’s to late.



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I fished with Grant week before last. Wow what a beautiful vessel! Think we were his second group in the boat. Felt solid as a rock and super stable. Beautifully appointed with box seats for 4 which is different than most.



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One things for sure, the Kofflers keep you in the loop. Going try to and get my own two eyeballs on it probably end of next week or the first of the week after. Gotta give thumbs up to Maxxum Marine for the power aspect too. Mica and Josh two good guys, taken some time for rookie questions without and guff or attitude.



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Very cool. Love build threads!
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Just curious, are you sticking with Honda power?
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I remember going through the build process. Fun and nerve wracking.

You already know this but post sales support is superb. Joe doesn’t forget you when he hands you the keys.

A few thoughts- I’m no dory guy so can’t offer any ideas in that. I did have him put two drop in rod holders on each corner and wouldn’t trade them for anything. I actually wish I would have put another mid way on each side.

He made me some rod holders for running in and out that I really like. I can’t find a picture but they are basically four rocket launchers that can slide along the gunnel.

If you plan to have coolers/totes on the deck, have him put some floor buckles in to secure them.

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If you plan to have coolers/totes on the deck, have him put some floor buckles in to secure them.
Golden advice. A friend puts a half tote on the deck of his dory and has it buckled down. He leaves it in even when not tuna fishing. I'm considering going that way.

The comment about rocket launchers is very good too. As you may recall, having a safe place to put a rod as you do something else is very valuable.
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My son Mark had Koffler build him a 22 footer last year, he added 12 inches to the standard width. Also added a wide gunnel, loves it.

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No more purple Dory? Maybe you can get a custom wrap. Can't wait to see u on the salt!
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A little late, but, more pictures.



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One more from the boy, just cause it’s a fun thread so far.



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Looks like ear plugs and a parachute would be in order prior to releasing the pin on that bad boy!

The boats lookin good. Whats the time line start to finish owl?
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Scott your thread is great, but you're low Rez images are killing my old eyes. I like to look at the details when they're there
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One thing I have wondered about on these boats is if there is ever a slippery coating put on the bottoms? I know Koffler's put Wetlander on some of their drift boats. I think they spray it on.

I put in on my own drift boat when the Gluvit wore out. Easy to do with a roller and really slippery, light weight, and tough. I have even considered putting it on the bottom of my Sea Hawk to see if it would give better gas milage. This may be another of my hare-brained ideas, however! jonb
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Yes on that.....
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I’ll be able to get a good look at Grants boat probably Friday. I’ve seen some of his pictures and I’m really curious about a couple things. Koffler gives the option of wetlander on the bottom. We’ll see how it works in this application, hopefully it’s as slick here as I’ve seen it other times and holds up to the sandblasting.

Timeline I don’t know. Ordered April 7th I think. They started working on it July 31st. Per Koffler, the rest depends on the framing part, then the finish guys having an opening to start their part of things. Then the power aspect. I’m hoping for some non-selective silver action in Sept.



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I’ll be able to get a good look at Grants boat probably Friday. I’ve seen some of his pictures and I’m really curious about a couple things. Koffler gives the option of wetlander on the bottom. We’ll see how it works in this application, hopefully it’s as slick here as I’ve seen it other times and holds up to the sandblasting.

Timeline I don’t know. Ordered April 7th I think. They started working on it July 31st. Per Koffler, the rest depends on the framing part, then the finish guys having an opening to start their part of things. Then the power aspect. I’m hoping for some non-selective silver action in Sept.


Wetlander has been awesome thus far.....
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Lots of aluminum washing up on the beach these days.

Glad to see you’ve done well for yourself and are building a new boat. You better let the kids paint this one too.
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HarpMan: I was hoping you’d chime in about the wet lander. Hopefully it holds up, if not it sounds easy to patch as needed. On the trailer too.

Color is good. Kids picking the colors and color scheme is better. Memories of painting my boat with them, all while being blissfully color blind, priceless.

Maybe a wrap this time. Easily customizable with time and fashion changes. Permanence I think would be a faux pas.

Might as well give an update. It’s through framing and waiting a week or two to get in a weld finishing stall. Then on to the riggers and polishers. Looking at or just past mid Sept.

Here’s a photo of the colors for those that may be wondering. The opposite side is flipped and the colors are upside down from this side. I believe the incoming landing picture is a first time ride for my passenger that day. The other, Mom’s like fishing too just pick good launch days.



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I think Koffler needs to build in more rake to the bow.

Maybe better described as lift to the hull
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Maybe better described as lift to the hull

Agreed. After seeing several and now being on one, there’s a few weak points that need addressing, for me. I may be to late to lift the bow rake, but I will be asking about it for sure. It would definitely change a few aspects of the ride and steering.



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Rake would be the angle of the bow stem. Forward rocker, the curve of the bottom. The Koffler has a constant width side panel, like the Salem boats, the Glen-L Hunky dories and some other early square stern dories dories including the original, the Texan series. Most dory designs have a tapered side panel, so even with a similar amount of forward rocker, the shear line of the bow sweeps up quite high, which is good, except for being able to see over it, which is not a big problem.

Owl's old boat, designed by Vic Ferrington, has the tapered side, but Vic cut a few inches off the high point of the bow to help forward visibility. That is what the unique bow shape of the PC Boat Works dories is about. I like the look of the high prow better.

Dory designs have a variety of rake profiles, with the most rake seen on the Harvey dories, so much that the bow stem line runs almost straight into the rocker. This looks good and is functional, making it easier to load the boat when the roller is above the rocker of the bottom.

The way the three flat panels come together to make a bow is complex, tricky, in that each aspect directly affects the others. Change one thing? changes everything. Ya can't just change the rake without changing the flare of the bow and/or the rocker, both of which are critical design elements and tough to change because flare, rocker and rake are tied together. Can't just change one.

To get a higher bow profile, you can taper the side panels or add bulwark to the bow area. Tapering the sides is complex and unlikely to happen on the Koffler. Adding bulwarks is pretty simple, can look great, and like the tapered side, it will take a higher breaker to come over the bow and thoroughly ****** the boat and occupants.
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This is a dory, designed with non tapered sides that has a bulwark forward. In this case the started with a wide panel, but it could be added instead, for a very different look.
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When I had HUmblePie (backyard built “Gearhart style”) in my shop along side HPII the design difference in the bow was apparent.

When running in following seas HPII never chine grabs or bow steers. HP did. Big time.

There’s multiple things going on. More flare at the 3rd and 4th rib. More rise (rocker) up front.

HPII can drive through a trough and out the other side without a grab or bow steer.

I asked Terry Learned how he figured out the bow design. He said “I built about 60 of em wrong until I got it right”

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I’ll be able to get a good look at Grants boat probably Friday. I’ve seen some of his pictures and I’m really curious about a couple things. Koffler gives the option of wetlander on the bottom. We’ll see how it works in this application, hopefully it’s as slick here as I’ve seen it other times and holds up to the sandblasting.

Timeline I don’t know. Ordered April 7th I think. They started working on it July 31st. Per Koffler, the rest depends on the framing part, then the finish guys having an opening to start their part of things. Then the power aspect. I’m hoping for some non-selective silver action in Sept.



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Old 10-03-2020, 06:34 PM   #38
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I love that bowed diamond plate on the bow. That sucker looks like a tank!
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Posting a few update pics for Owl's boat build.







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A couple requested pictures. The best I have at this time. I don’t know how to get them away from these little picture thumbnail things.



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Scot, hate to say it, but BORING! The old boat had class. Colorful it was. It made a statement and everyone and their cousin knew it was a special vessel. This new monotone thing has some promise, I admit, but needs to be spiffed up a bit after the welding is done.
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Scot, hate to say it, but BORING! The old boat had class. Colorful it was. It made a statement and everyone and their cousin knew it was a special vessel. This new monotone thing has some promise, I admit, but needs to be spiffed up a bit after the welding is done.

There may be something in the works. Keeping just a touch of the old color scheme. With a big new addition. I’ve heard GBS sold Coho designs so I need to figure out who’s the best now that he’s gone.



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There may be something in the works. Keeping just a touch of the old color scheme. With a big new addition. I’ve heard GBS sold Coho designs so I need to figure out who’s the best now that he’s gone.



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I think you'll love it Scott.

I have a Willie Sled with diamond plate floors and the first thing I did was throw down Indoor/outdoor carpet over the diamond plate. I really really dont like fishing on diamond plate.

My dory has wooden deck boards that Jim Allen shot chopper glass on. Bulletproof, non skid, non glare, easy to hose off.

I wonder if there is something you could coat the diamond plate decks with?

Also. Is the only fish box the one up front? With a plugable drain?

Is there a crossbar between those two lids or do they open the entire area? EDIT: I see the cross bar now

Thinking of large halibut.

I think I like the big trough on top of the gunnel. Lean against the inside edge when standing. Maybe add some cushions like I did on my Learned so people know where to sit without being told.

What is the on board fuel capacity?
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There may be something in the works. Keeping just a touch of the old color scheme. With a big new addition. I’ve heard GBS sold Coho designs so I need to figure out who’s the best now that he’s gone.



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Look at Boatskinz out of the Medford area. They are wrapping a ton of boats for RogueJet and I've seen nothing but awesome looking results.
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Salmon1: I’ll look at Boatskinz. Thanks

GRB: On board fuel is 30 gal. Also will be plumbed with an aux valve like you have for extra fuel on long runs. The fish box will be pluggable, hopefully the word got in, in time to have no holes, all dry storage. I usually use a big cooler for fish and for seating, all dry storage. A shelf under the bow above the fuel tank to add more up there. Tie downs for the coolers as mentioned by you and Pew earlier. Don’t think I’m ready for a half tote full time yet. Once measurements can be had I was going to ask about your gunnel seat pads. The diamond plated floors are going to be sandblasted. Should help with traction and glare, if not I have some of that indoor/outdoor. Your floors is what I was thinking about and comparing with the sandblasting. It will be fun once it gets here. I sold the old one to soon and been sidelined since May.



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Great boat. I’m jealous of the full walk around.

Love the story too. A guy has to squander at least part of any windfall on something cool.

More rod holders! And outside ones at a 45 on each side. I keep at least one further back swim bait up there at all times tuna fishing. It’s up and out of the way (you can fish under it). That rod always gets more than it’s share, often when you are not expecting it.
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Down today to drop somethings off and check things out. A couple more pictures. Not sure this is a squander, more of an investment in future entertainment endeavors. Not sure about a wrap either, I’m not having this boat sand blasted. There’s a couple more shops to call but it’s not looking good right now. Not sure what sand blasting has to do with stickers.Click image for larger version

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Did you ask Joe if he knows who would wrap it? He’s usually in the know on those things as folks like Lucky Duck have their Koffler’s wrapped.


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Joe’s on my list for Monday and a shop recommended by GBS. Good call on the drop in rod holders, those will come in handy.



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This is a very nice looking boat!

Question for those that have actually launched a Koffler: How heavy are they? The beauty of the Harvey/Breaker type boat is they are so dang light...can be dropped in a few inches of water and pushed out easily by one guy. I always look at these Kofflers and wonder how they float/launch/push? Anyone with experience?

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This is a very nice looking boat!

Question for those that have actually launched a Koffler: How heavy are they? The beauty of the Harvey/Breaker type boat is they are so dang light...can be dropped in a few inches of water and pushed out easily by one guy. I always look at these Kofflers and wonder how they float/launch/push? Anyone with experience?

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No different than any of the other 20+ footers, I have launched Crowns and Learned. The Crowns are harder than mine IMO. The bottom helps too.
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They slide fine with out much power...
https://youtu.be/8PQvET7lZ8I


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They slide fine with out much power...
https://youtu.be/8PQvET7lZ8I


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Can't get any better than that ! Pretty awesome, always intrigued with the dory fleet.
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