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03-06-2018, 06:33 PM
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Chromer
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Location: Oregon City
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road de-icer vs bare aluminum
Willies REALLY wanted me to have my new drift boat painted, but I declined. If you are towing your bare aluminum boat around while there is de-icer on the road, take a few minutes to rinse the spray off of your bare aluminum boat. I am lazy, I wash my drift boat, maybe, once per year. Now I have to polish my boat. Hopefully this helps someone else.
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03-06-2018, 06:35 PM
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Steelhead
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Location: Warren
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Proteus503
Willies REALLY wanted me to have my new drift boat painted, but I declined. If you are towing your bare aluminum boat around while there is de-icer on the road, take a few minutes to rinse the spray off of your bare aluminum boat. I am lazy, I wash my drift boat, maybe, once per year. Now I have to polish my boat. Hopefully this helps someone else.
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Sorry to see the damage! Pure chemistry in action!
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03-06-2018, 06:36 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
"road de-icer vs bare aluminum" = BAD combination.
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03-06-2018, 07:03 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
How heartbreaking it would be to have an expensive paint job. I put a bra on my willie drifter when I tow it and the paint under the bra looks good but the paint after does not.
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03-06-2018, 08:07 PM
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Chromer
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Phillip Smesrud
How heartbreaking it would be to have an expensive paint job. I put a bra on my willie drifter when I tow it and the paint under the bra looks good but the paint after does not.
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Does Sharkhide help?
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03-06-2018, 09:02 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
well at least your boat wont ice up.
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03-06-2018, 09:39 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Pagorits
Does Sharkhide help?
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It would probably help but a lot of what I have on my boat I think is from road gravel that flies up and hits the boat. I zoomed in on the OPs boat and he has marks on the lettering where it looks chipped off by gravel.
I don't know how much shark hide would cost to put on the boat but polishing and shark hiding a drift boat is a cost I wouldn't want to pay for a boat that bangs on rocks and gets roped down rocky hillsides.
But I'm going to start rinsing my boat after winter trips now that I know they are using de-icer.
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03-07-2018, 08:25 AM
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AdminiMom
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
I'm going to put a copy of this on the boating forum, too.
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03-07-2018, 09:20 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Proteus503
Willies REALLY wanted me to have my new drift boat painted, but I declined. If you are towing your bare aluminum boat around while there is de-icer on the road, take a few minutes to rinse the spray off of your bare aluminum boat. I am lazy, I wash my drift boat, maybe, once per year. Now I have to polish my boat. Hopefully this helps someone else.
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The new thing Portland decided to do is use good old rock salt in the mix of de-icing agents.
Other areas of Oregon have been using it and its a bad move for consumers.
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03-07-2018, 09:43 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Finsalong
The new thing Portland decided to do is use good old rock salt in the mix of de-icing agents.
Other areas of Oregon have been using it and its a bad move for consumers.
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I was really unhappy to see that on the news. You should share why it's bad for consumers, plants and fish.
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03-07-2018, 10:16 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
Yup, same thing happened to my little Gregor. Worst is my seat boxes aren't fully watertight (which I hadn't discovered yet) ~ so where the spray managed to percolate inside, it doesn't even get the little bit of incidental rinsing from further rain spray, nor does it dry out on its own unless you open them up to ventilate, so they REALLY corroded from the inside where it's much harder to polish out (not that it needs to look nice in there, but I'm still worried it'll continue to eat through if left alone).
I've got it figured out now, but can't go back and undo the prior pitting and some of the more severely corroded patches.
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03-07-2018, 11:32 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tualatin, OR
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Finsalong
The new thing Portland decided to do is use good old rock salt in the mix of de-icing agents.
Other areas of Oregon have been using it and its a bad move for consumers.
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I think it was pretty apparent in Portland last year that when the weather gets bad, there is no good substitute for salt. Vancouver used salt and the roads were infinitely better. Portland did not and the streets were a disaster for weeks. A lot of consumer wrecked their cars.
There is good reason for boat manufacturers insisting on painting boats. A lot of unhappy customers after getting bare aluminum, even if they think that's what they want.
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03-07-2018, 01:46 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oregon City
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Phillip Smesrud
It would probably help but a lot of what I have on my boat I think is from road gravel that flies up and hits the boat. I zoomed in on the OPs boat and he has marks on the lettering where it looks chipped off by gravel.
I don't know how much shark hide would cost to put on the boat but polishing and shark hiding a drift boat is a cost I wouldn't want to pay for a boat that bangs on rocks and gets roped down rocky hillsides.
But I'm going to start rinsing my boat after winter trips now that I know they are using de-icer.
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FYI, those marks are not rock chips, they are chemical etchings from droplet of deicer (flung up off the road by my truck tires).
Paint would have prevented this... the deicer doesnt eat paint like it eats raw aluminum.
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03-07-2018, 02:02 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SW Portland
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
That stuff is terrible! We probably get about 20 to 30 jobs a year refinishing metal that has been damaged by Magnesium Chloride. Yes Sharkhide does help.
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03-07-2018, 03:47 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
Posts: 1,129
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Proteus503
FYI, those marks are not rock chips, they are chemical etchings from droplet of deicer (flung up off the road by my truck tires).
Paint would have prevented this... the deicer doesnt eat paint like it eats raw aluminum.
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What are all the marks on the lettering? Are they not paint?
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03-07-2018, 04:24 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oregon City
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
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Originally Posted by Phillip Smesrud
What are all the marks on the lettering? Are they not paint?
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adhesive backed decal of some sort, not sure of the actual material. it is not paint.
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03-08-2018, 07:48 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Battle Ground/Ocean Park
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Re: road de-icer vs bare aluminum
I think shark 🦈 hide would help. I tow my bare Willie predator around in the winter ❄️ a lot and never had those spots but maybe there wasn’t any de icers down. For a drift boat you could apply your self or have someone spray it on like EZ way
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