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08-07-2018, 09:10 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Aloha OR
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How to float using pants
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08-07-2018, 09:37 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lincoln Beach,OR.
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Re: How to float using pants
One of the first things they taught us in Navy bootcamp.
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08-08-2018, 06:28 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Yamhill, OR
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Re: How to float using pants
Yep, same thing at Paradise Island during swim qual. It was 34 years ago 
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08-08-2018, 07:35 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Springfield
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Re: How to float using pants
Looks simple enough... But I question if I'd be able to do that in 50-something degree water, while wearing deck boots and rain bibs.
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08-08-2018, 07:38 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere way past the bass clef. Often Tigard Oregon
Posts: 17,783
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Re: How to float using pants
Learned that in Boy Scouts and had to prove we could over 40 years ago
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08-08-2018, 12:01 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 6,877
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by StickFish
Learned that in Boy Scouts and had to prove we could over 40 years ago
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Same. Camp Napawon, Wisconsin. I think it's part of the swimming merit badge. Boy Scouts was awesome for a suburban kid who didn't have outdoorsy parents.
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08-08-2018, 12:13 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere way past the bass clef. Often Tigard Oregon
Posts: 17,783
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by Threemuch
Same. Camp Napawon, Wisconsin. I think it's part of the swimming merit badge. Boy Scouts was awesome for a suburban kid who didn't have outdoorsy parents.
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We did our in the community pool. Getting your pants off while treading water was interesting.
Sadly no longer a requirement of that merit badge
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08-08-2018, 12:29 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Land of Misfit Toys
Posts: 4,779
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Re: How to float using pants
My Jr. High school had swimming as part of their PE for a semester and we did the pants thing in that class. We also practiced a number of other skills to avoid drowning, like taking a canoe out to the middle of the pool, capsizing it and then dealing with the situation as if we were in the middle of a lake. Without PFD's of coarse, because they assumed we were dumb kids that would be out in the middle of a lake in a canoe without PFD's.
I think we did some other emergency survival, keep from drowning stuff, but I don't remember what, so I'll likely drown one of those comes up.
My kids have gone through all the swim classes at the local community center. I mentioned the technique of using there blue jeans as flotation devices and they looked at me like I was a crazy old man.
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08-08-2018, 02:15 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere way past the bass clef. Often Tigard Oregon
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Re: How to float using pants
Root, the over turned canoe was part of the canoeing merit badge with the scouts. The hardest one was while treading water lift and rotate the overturned canoe and rotate it again and get back in without flipping it again. Fun times
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08-08-2018, 09:54 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 5,443
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Re: How to float using pants
Much, much better idea is to be WEARING your PFD when the need to go in the water can't be avoided. Mike makes it look easy there in that still water by the dock, but when you go into the open ocean, chances are that you'll just drown yourself the quicker by attempting that maneuver. One of the things you want to do when you go into this cold NW water is to conserve as much energy as possible. You have about an hour before you go unconscious, more if you're carrying an extra layer of blubber. The more you splash around, the quicker that you'll succumb to hypothermia. Even swimming is not a good idea. Better to hug your legs up to your chest and hope help arrives in time. For that you'll need flotation...
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08-09-2018, 09:26 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: West Salem/Little Italy
Posts: 16,033
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by KingSlew
Much, much better idea is to be WEARING your PFD when the need to go in the water can't be avoided. Mike makes it look easy there in that still water by the dock, but when you go into the open ocean, chances are that you'll just drown yourself the quicker by attempting that maneuver. One of the things you want to do when you go into this cold NW water is to conserve as much energy as possible. You have about an hour before you go unconscious, more if you're carrying an extra layer of blubber. The more you splash around, the quicker that you'll succumb to hypothermia. Even swimming is not a good idea. Better to hug your legs up to your chest and hope help arrives in time. For that you'll need flotation...
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Smart man. 
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08-09-2018, 09:53 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: westlinn
Posts: 6,100
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by MaiToi
One of the first things they taught us in Navy bootcamp.
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In the army I learned to swim in jump boots and full load of gear, ammo and my weapon. As I recall this test caused alot of people to wash out.
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08-09-2018, 09:58 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: westlinn
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by Don G Baldi
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In cold water I would consider 5-10 min about the max time you can survive with out floatation. If your wearing a life jacket 20-30 min.
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08-09-2018, 12:35 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 5,443
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Re: How to float using pants
A few years back we had an extra chubby commercial fisherman who was fishing solo and went overboard do 3 hrs before rescue by clinging to a crab trap buoy...
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Last edited by KingSlew; 08-09-2018 at 01:24 PM.
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08-09-2018, 02:37 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Newport
Posts: 521
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by KingSlew
A few years back we had an extra chubby commercial fisherman who was fishing solo and went overboard do 3 hrs before rescue by clinging to a crab trap buoy...
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The guy was very lucky. He was big. His boat ran onto South Beach and thank goodness some buddies showed up and redirected search crew from beach to likely autopilot course. He was able to get to his pocket knife and cut the buoys loose and stuff under his tee shirt. I'm remembering 45 minutes but you could be right. Memory is not one of my strong suits.
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08-10-2018, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Portland & Oceanside, Oregon
Posts: 9,496
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Re: How to float using pants
I learned that trick in a survival class in high school. It's worth remembering.
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08-10-2018, 01:02 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: May 2010
Location: north coast
Posts: 9,007
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Re: How to float using pants
do not pant when using floats you want to not waste energy . that is wrong.
oh wait i am dyslectic.
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08-11-2018, 02:49 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bay City Oregon
Posts: 236
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Re: How to float using pants
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Originally Posted by iwanttofish
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Learned it in Navy boot camp 53 years ago. Only then you jumped into a pool with mean guys on the sides of the pool with very long poles used to keep you from going to the sides of the pool if you panicked. I am sure in today's Navy that would not be politically correct. But, it sure got everyone to pay attention and learn that trick quickly.
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08-11-2018, 04:16 PM
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Cutthroat
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 47
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Re: How to float using pants
Yeah, this won't work off our coast. If you want to suvive wear a drysuit or wetsuit plus PFD and keep radio attached to PFD, just like those crazy kayak anglers. Oh wait, maybe they aren't so crazy.
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08-11-2018, 05:24 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Oregon City, Or. USA
Posts: 3,134
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Re: How to float using pants
I was drown proofed in the Navy,, No pants required. I was resuscitated twice.
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08-11-2018, 08:28 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Rainier, OR
Posts: 2,895
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Re: How to float using pants
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingSlew
A few years back we had an extra chubby commercial fisherman who was fishing solo and went overboard do 3 hrs before rescue by clinging to a crab trap buoy...
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