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Old 03-20-2020, 11:38 AM   #1
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Been on a mission to perfect a smoked oyster recipe.

Im using medium sized oysters. I have used a method that does a quick par boil until the oyster firms and starts to curl around the edge then use a sugar salt dry brine for 2 - 3 hours then rinsing , drying and smoking at 170 degrees with alder.

I have also used a wet brine that includes water, sugar, salt, garlic powder, white pepper. bay leaf and some pineapple juice them on to the smoker.

My internal oyster temp has been 135 degrees. I have the ability to hot smoke or cold smoke.

I just haven't nailed it yet. There are a couple old threads on ifish dating back a dozen years , a couple of videos on YouTube , and a few articles on line but not at the depth you would expect. I would like to replicate the smoked oysters Karla Steinhauser used to knock out of her smoke house.

Looking for your successes, tips, ideas etc.

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I believe the recipe for Karla's smoked oysters in in one of the books she published. I'll look it up when I get home if somebody else doesn't post it by then.
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Old 03-21-2020, 03:48 PM   #3
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Below is Karla's recipe from "I am Karla's Smokehouse, Volume II. I don't know if posting it breaks copyright. But since the passing of our treasure of the Oregon Coast, Karsla Steinhauser, I think the book is out of print and it would be a shame to let her legacy fade away. I haven't tried the recipe, if you try it let us know how it goes.


Karla's Cure Recipe (1/2" batch)
4 pounds salt
1 pound white sugar
1 pound brown sugar
1-3/4 pound Prague Powder (or equal amount salt)

Karla's Direction for Smoked Oyster

One gallon of oysters yields two an a half to three pounds smoked.
Dump oysters, juice an a little water into a large cooking pot.
Bring to a boil, keep temperature high so top oysters are covered with boiling water also. The lid probably will have to come off so the water doesn't boil over on the burner.
Cook about 5 minutes. Shut off heat. Let sit a few minutes.
Run old water rapidly into pot, stir gently to get all the foam an cooking residue off the oysters.
Reach down and stir through the oysters, keeping the pot tipped to get the "junk" out.
Dump oysters into a large strainer to drain. Let stand about ten minutes.
Mix cure in a big stainless bowl, (about 1-1/4 pounds cure and a handful of extra brown sugar added and mix well.)

Dump oysters back into cure and gently mix until oysters are well covered.
Dump oysters back into strainer and cure for ten minutes.
Rinse out cure bowl and fill with fairly warm (not hot) water.
At the end of ten minutes curing time, dump oysters back into warm running water so bowl overflows and gently move oysters around to get the cure off them.
Then gently move by handfuls back into the washed colander and drain well until ready to but on the smoker rack.
Unlike other fish, it doesn't hurt oysters to be put into the smoker within an hour after processing.
When you place them in the smoker, be sure the smoker lid is on and producing smoke, but not much heat, remember they are already cooked. Too much heat will burn the outside edges of the oysters. They'll overcook, get hard and be ruined.
When you feel you have enough smoke color, remove from smoker and start chowing down.
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:29 PM   #4
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Thanks Root , I appreciate you taking the time to respond in detail.
I don’t know how Karla got away with so much salt vs sugar in her dry brine but you can’t argue about the taste of what she kicked off the smoker. Thinking a well seasoned smoker and vine maple may have beer her ace in the hole.

I’m smoking some mediums tomorrow and will report on results .


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Below is Karla's recipe from "I am Karla's Smokehouse, Volume II. I don't know if posting it breaks copyright. But since the passing of our treasure of the Oregon Coast, Karsla Steinhauser, I think the book is out of print and it would be a shame to let her legacy fade away. I haven't tried the recipe, if you try it let us know how it goes.





Karla's Cure Recipe (1/2" batch)

4 pounds salt

1 pound white sugar

1 pound brown sugar

1-3/4 pound Prague Powder (or equal amount salt)



Karla's Direction for Smoked Oyster



One gallon of oysters yields two an a half to three pounds smoked.

Dump oysters, juice an a little water into a large cooking pot.

Bring to a boil, keep temperature high so top oysters are covered with boiling water also. The lid probably will have to come off so the water doesn't boil over on the burner.

Cook about 5 minutes. Shut off heat. Let sit a few minutes.

Run old water rapidly into pot, stir gently to get all the foam an cooking residue off the oysters.

Reach down and stir through the oysters, keeping the pot tipped to get the "junk" out.

Dump oysters into a large strainer to drain. Let stand about ten minutes.

Mix cure in a big stainless bowl, (about 1-1/4 pounds cure and a handful of extra brown sugar added and mix well.)



Dump oysters back into cure and gently mix until oysters are well covered.

Dump oysters back into strainer and cure for ten minutes.

Rinse out cure bowl and fill with fairly warm (not hot) water.

At the end of ten minutes curing time, dump oysters back into warm running water so bowl overflows and gently move oysters around to get the cure off them.

Then gently move by handfuls back into the washed colander and drain well until ready to but on the smoker rack.

Unlike other fish, it doesn't hurt oysters to be put into the smoker within an hour after processing.

When you place them in the smoker, be sure the smoker lid is on and producing smoke, but not much heat, remember they are already cooked. Too much heat will burn the outside edges of the oysters. They'll overcook, get hard and be ruined.

When you feel you have enough smoke color, remove from smoker and start chowing down.
Can you help me with a page number for the cure recipe. I have the book. But could not find the cure recipe in it.

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Old 03-22-2020, 08:33 AM   #6
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Can you help me with a page number for the cure recipe. I have the book. But could not find the cure recipe in it.

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Never mind, I found it on page 129.

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Old 03-24-2020, 12:40 PM   #7
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Please let sus know if they meet your expectations Pearl.
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I’m easing into this deal so I only did a couple pints over the weekend. Used mediums and kinda followed Karlas recipe but not her cure.

Smoked oysters turned out good but not great. Once they went to the smoker ( 130 degrees) I let them go a couple hours. I f don’t think they took on enough smoke as I was cautious of not over cooking. In hind sight I could have left them on a bit longer. Also used alder as my smoke source so may experiment with another wood ?

Shared with the neighbors over a couple beers and 6ft apart. They thought they were good.

Goal is to make a great product, smoke by the gallon and can them in half pint jars.

Will report back on my next test batch.


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Old 03-24-2020, 01:14 PM   #9
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Maybe irrelevant, but I can razor clams in 1/2 pint jars using a tsp of liquid smoke. Chop them up into thumbnail size pieces, can them up and they are delicious on a Ritz with a small piece of smoked cheddar. Maybe extra small oysters could be done similarly but without the chopping.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:56 PM   #10
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You can turn a good oyster into a great oyster by adding some msg.


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Old 03-24-2020, 05:39 PM   #11
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I’m easing into this deal so I only did a couple pints over the weekend. Used mediums and kinda followed Karlas recipe but not her cure.

Smoked oysters turned out good but not great. Once they went to the smoker ( 130 degrees) I let them go a couple hours. I f don’t think they took on enough smoke as I was cautious of not over cooking. In hind sight I could have left them on a bit longer. Also used alder as my smoke source so may experiment with another wood ?

Shared with the neighbors over a couple beers and 6ft apart. They thought they were good.

Goal is to make a great product, smoke by the gallon and can them in half pint jars.

Will report back on my next test batch.


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Knew Karla from the time I was 12 yeas old, while she was still in college, she used alder, grew up within 100 yards of her shop.
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Seems to me that this amount of Prague Power is too much (1-3/4 pound Prague Powder (or equal amount salt)..
When smoking sausage it calls for a tablespoon of Powder to 10# of meat..
Just curious??
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Seems to me that this amount of Prague Power is too much (1-3/4 pound Prague Powder (or equal amount salt)..

When smoking sausage it calls for a tablespoon of Powder to 10# of meat..

Just curious??

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I've not used her cure recipe. But the difference is whether it is integrated into the product, like sausage, or is part of a quick cure.



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Old 03-26-2020, 01:41 PM   #14
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This sounds amazing!

Where is the best placed to purchase fresh, shucked oysters in bulk near Tillamook or Lincoln City?

Can you vac-pac and freeze after smoking?
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This sounds amazing!

Where is the best placed to purchase fresh, shucked oysters in bulk near Tillamook or Lincoln City?

Can you vac-pac and freeze after smoking?
JANDY Oyster in Tillamook has fresh oysters from Netarts Bay.
https://www.cnn.com./2020/03/26/busi...let/index.html

Pacific Oyster in Bay City
https://www.facebook.com/The-Fish-Pe...5167076843615/

I also go an email from Hamma Hamma Oyster in Hoods Canal where they have some specials on a number of options to your door with free shipping.
https://hamahamaoysters.com/

To your other question Im going to can in 1/2 pint jars vs. vaccum pack.
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JANDY Oyster in Tillamook has fresh oysters from Netarts Bay.

https://www.cnn.com./2020/03/26/busi...let/index.html



Pacific Oyster in Bay City

https://www.facebook.com/The-Fish-Pe...5167076843615/



I also go an email from Hamma Hamma Oyster in Hoods Canal where they have some specials on a number of options to your door with free shipping.

https://hamahamaoysters.com/



To your other question Im going to can in 1/2 pint jars vs. vaccum pack.
Hama Hamma is a fun place to stop and have a couple dozen on the 1/2 shell. Nice people and delicious oysters outside on the canal.

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JANDY Oyster in Tillamook has fresh oysters from Netarts Bay.
https://www.cnn.com./2020/03/26/busi...let/index.html

Pacific Oyster in Bay City
https://www.facebook.com/The-Fish-Pe...5167076843615/

I also go an email from Hamma Hamma Oyster in Hoods Canal where they have some specials on a number of options to your door with free shipping.
https://hamahamaoysters.com/

To your other question Im going to can in 1/2 pint jars vs. vaccum pack.
Awesome, thanks for the info. I am going to give this a try!
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Here is a good 15 minute video that takes the smoking oysters process from start to end.

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Thanks Frog Pond.
I just have a hard time getting my head around using extra small oysters as they shrink considerably and the time that is recommended that they are boiled in addition to the hours being smoked. Seems like a lot but then again Im the guy asking for insight?
That said Im willing to try it an an effort to find perfection.
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If you’re looking for taste testers I can exchange bluefin for smoked oysters and give feedback
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Were in - will give you a shout.


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Thank you Pearl! I have smoked/canned/processed meat and seafood for many years. At 71 years young, this video was 'very' educational for me. I can smoke just about anything (in my smokehouses) but I have destroyed so many oysters, I just gave up! Not only did I learn a few important thing about smoking oysters, I learned a couple pretty cool tips on the actual canning process. I will, once again, attempt the oyster challenge! Thanks again. Skip.
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Thank you Pearl! I have smoked/canned/processed meat and seafood for many years. At 71 years young, this video was 'very' educational for me. I can smoke just about anything (in my smokehouses) but I have destroyed so many oysters, I just gave up! Not only did I learn a few important thing about smoking oysters, I learned a couple pretty cool tips on the actual canning process. I will, once again, attempt the oyster challenge! Thanks again. Skip.

If we can put our collective trails and errors together we can come up with a solid process to share among the group.
If for nothing else we can test those trails on GRB and get some blue fin out of the deal.
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If we can put our collective trails and errors together we can come up with a solid process to share among the group.
If for nothing else we can test those trails on GRB and get some blue fin out of the deal.
By the way I think we share the same last name?



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If we can put our collective trails and errors together we can come up with a solid process to share among the group.
If for nothing else we can test those trails on GRB and get some blue fin out of the deal.
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It will be a while before I will going out to get oysters, (or anything for that matter) but when the skies are clear, I'll be on it! So for now, I'm smoking some old silvers and chinook.
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