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Old 12-29-2011, 11:26 PM   #1
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Default Kifaru Paratipi vs Sawtooth

I have been doing some reasearch on these two tents. Have anyone used or owned one of these two tents?

Here is what I see the pros and cons are:
Pro's of Paratipi. Its lighter by 3 lbs with a stove and it costs less
Con's: Its smaller -specifically its 3 ft shorter so you cant stand up in it.

Pro's of the Sawtooth. Its a larger tent (can stand up) with a larger stove
Con's : its heavier and costs more.

For you experienced DIY back country hunters is a 3 lb weight difference a big deal for you? were talking the difference between 6 and 9 lbs approx.

My intention is to primarily use it by my self hiking in 3-7 miles. However I do want to get something that can sleep two with gear and is not so small that we have to spoon

Once I make my decicison I will be looking for a lightly used one. Incase anyone has one they want to sell.

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Old 12-30-2011, 06:17 AM   #2
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I don't have either one but have been looking at Kifaru and others and will give you my opinion from years of backpacking:

First of all the weight difference between the two shelters is only 1 lb (3.5 lbs 4.5 lbs). The rest of the weight difference is in the kind of stove that you choose but remember that a smaller stove takes smaller wood and has to be fed more often.

Also, I have found out that while I love small tents in the summer they drive me crazy in the fall. In the summer there is 15+ hours of daylight and I don't spend NEAR as much time in the tent, but during the late fall (Nov) the days are so much shorter I spend much more time in the tent. Being able to stand up in the Sawtooth (or some other model) would make all the difference.

Also, look at how close the sleeping bags are to the stove in this photo of the paratipi:



Most good down bags cost around $300 or more (my Marmot cost $349 ten years ago). I would not want a tent that gets my expensive sleeping bag that close to something that can ruin it.

I have not owned the paratipi and some of the guys on this forum could probably give you better info. You might also surf over to 24 hour campfire. They have a backpack hunting forum over there that deals with these and other brands of shelters that you can put a stove in.

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Old 12-30-2011, 06:44 AM   #3
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While i don't have experience with either of these, I do know that when backpacking 3lbs is a pretty big dea for me. Maybe not for 3 miles but definitely for 7 or longer.

I do have a kifaru 12 man tipi with a medium stove, I pack it with goats so weight isn't as much of an issue. I will say the 12 man with stove and gear inside is getting cramped with 4 people. 3 people if you plan to use cots at all.

They do seem make great quality stuff.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:22 AM   #4
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Default Re: Kifaru Paratipi vs Sawtooth

You might look at the titanium goat as another option, in the same weight class, I believe only two seams on the smaller tents, the offset center makes entry easier.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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While I don't have a Kifaru tipi I do have one of their backpacks. Very well made high quality gear.

You may also want to check out the Kifaru forum, good information there as well.
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:31 AM   #6
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I own a Seek Outside 6 man Tipi and the medium woodstove.

Very well built and competitive prices.



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Old 12-31-2011, 08:12 PM   #7
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I have checked out a few of those forums. Definitley some good info. I think longterm the Sawtooth will come in handy more often. When I do pull the trigger and get something I will be sure to post my reivew.

Hope you all have a safe and happy new year's eve!
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:29 PM   #8
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I sat down this morning w/ a pot of coffee and watched U-Tube vids of the Kifaru Tipi's, stoves, packs and other "rendezvous" footage for like 2hrs.
That 24man Tipi is the bomb! I wonder how well they hold the heat.
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