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Old 06-29-2020, 06:27 PM   #1
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Default Self solder wire connectors

Something new to me. I just saw these on the internet. Looks like they've been around a couple years.
Anyone have any experience using them?
Just wonder if one brand is better than the other?

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Old 06-29-2020, 06:34 PM   #2
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I’ve never seen those, but now that I have, I’ll be trying them. Really cool invention.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:38 PM   #3
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Cool... Wonder if it’s acceptable for marine use?
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That's what I was wondering.
It would be nice to know if the solder is tinned for marine use or is the water seal and heat shrink enough protection.
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Could have used those a few weeks ago on a repair project. An assortment would be handy in the tool box.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:51 PM   #6
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Wanted to try them but haven't pulled the trigger, been sceptical of the solder melt temp and wire penetration vs plastic. Please someone get these and cut them open. Have looked for a video of that and can't find one

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Old 06-29-2020, 07:07 PM   #7
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They look like a pita to use in confined areas and worse if have to mate the strands...but neat idea. Regular high quality heat shrink connectors work just fine for a loooong time when done correctly. Solder connections is not recommended for marine due to vibration/breaking. I bet those things arent cheap either..
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Don’t think I’d use them on a boat in a hard to get to place. If connection went bad, would want to be able fix on the water.
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Definitely PTA in tight restricted areas especially with limited length of wire.
Be nice to have a few in the toolbox.
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I bought a box and used them to put a new ignition on my Chevelle, it took a little practice to heat the solder and not get the rest too hot, once I got it down they work pretty good. Don't use a flame as it's too hot too quick, a little practice with the heat gun and you have a great connection!
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I've got some laying around, but I rarely use them. Solder connections can promote corrosion due to oxidation. I usually just use heat shrink connectors.
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Not bullet proof enough for me. Yes, we are talking about a simple wire splice. But when it fails due to corroding in the supposed air tight sealed off plastic, you'll be ticked. Nothings air tight. Anyone with that kind of time on their hands to sit with a heat gun and fiddle around like that should just re-pull it.

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I have been using solder sleeves for about 20 years. They are used quite a bit in aircraft rework. They are also used to install drain wires in shielded communications cables. Very reliable and easy to use. To make them almost foolproof you put on wire in and shrink the end just enough to hold it. Then put the other wire in and hit it with a small nozzle heat gun until the solder flows. It will shrink and liquify before it flows into the joint. They are a little different than soldering the wire, but much easier.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:04 PM   #14
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i use crimp on 'shrink butt connectors', no solder but a positive connection that is water proof. crimp and heat with any source of heat you may have, easy and fast.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:26 PM   #15
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For a very long time I have been soldering connections and then wrapping rubber "splicing tape" around them. I have never had water/oxidation penetrate it. The splicing tape forms a very, very tough rubber coating around any connection.
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I have used a few. They worked great on battery cables.
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Scotch-Locks FTW!


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Old 07-01-2020, 08:25 PM   #18
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I’d like to give the solder shrinky butt connectors a whirl, but agree with the concerns above regarding tight spaces...

And to be clear, the person that developed the scotch lock should be drug out into the street and shot. Right next to whoever invented the standard slotted screw...


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After working in the trucking industry for twenty nine years, I can tell you that no electrical connector is waterproof. Road deicer will find its way into any connection and cause corrosion, breakage and failure. Heat shrinkable connectors and shrink wrap will only slow down the process.
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I’d like to give the solder shrinky butt connectors a whirl, but agree with the concerns above regarding tight spaces...

And to be clear, the person that developed the scotch lock should be drug out into the street and shot. Right next to whoever invented the standard slotted screw...


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Scotch locks should have been outlawed thirty five years ago and the person that invented them locked up. I can't tell you how many electrical failures I have traced, only to run into a Scotch lock.
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