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Old 08-16-2012, 01:26 PM   #1
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You ever notice how many people are afraid to pass a state patrol officer on the highway?

I was rolling down I-5 this morning and came up on 4 lanes of traffic 20 cars deep. Look ahead and sure enough a state patrol officer is ahead of everyone and doing a few miles an hour under the speed limit.

He was probably laughing to himself about all the knuckleheads afraid to go past him.

I was finally able to get around the traffic and continue on down the highway. Sure enough as soon as the sheeple saw he wasn't gonna give everyone a ticket for passing him while doing 60mph,it opened the flood gates.

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Such a rebel! Bet you had your favorite music turned up as well .
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Such a rebel! Bet you had your favorite music turned up as well .
Hardly a rebel,just have to laugh at people sometimes.
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Common issue in Oregon - but happens else where. Have no problem passng an OSP if I am within the speed limit.
But I see more issues with people who feel entitled to drive below the spped limit in the center and fast lane between Salem and Tigard. They cause more issues than OSP.

What is interesting - we go down periodically to pick up new service cars from a place in Phoenix. We get to drive them back. So it is interesting watching people get in a line and avoid passing even if you are doing 5-10 MPH below speed limit.
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Common issue in Oregon - but happens else where. Have no problem passng an OSP if I am within the speed limit.
But I see more issues with people who feel entitled to drive below the spped limit in the center and fast lane between Salem and Tigard. They cause more issues than OSP.

What is interesting - we go down periodically to pick up new service cars from a place in Phoenix. We get to drive them back. So it is interesting watching people get in a line and avoid passing even if you are doing 5-10 MPH below speed limit.
Dont mean to be a smart a__, but where exactly is the fast lane between Salem and Tigard? Traveled that stretch of road often and never seen anything posted "fast lane"
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OSP won't pull you over till you're going at least nine over the posted speed when on the freeway or rural roads. City and county have different protocol depending on the area. Sort of depends on who's watching.
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I guess I've never really noticed that before. Probably because I drive like my granny and hold everyone up too.
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OSP won't pull you over till you're going at least nine over the posted speed when on the freeway or rural roads. City and county have different protocol depending on the area. Sort of depends on who's watching.
sssooo either you or the osp owes me a refund and a explanation
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I agree that "Fast Lane" may not mean fast to alot of people who have the belief that they are entitled to go any speed in any lane.
But in most states it is defined in their rules of the road as the inside lane while the outside lane is the slow lane. I think the signage reflects more that slower moving traffic to move to the right lane- if you are looking for sigange - other wise look atthe manual

I have lived in regions where people driving slow in the fast lane are ticketed for driving slow in the fast lane.

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Dont mean to be a smart a__, but where exactly is the fast lane between Salem and Tigard? Traveled that stretch of road often and never seen anything posted "fast lane"

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Dont mean to be a smart a__, but where exactly is the fast lane between Salem and Tigard? Traveled that stretch of road often and never seen anything posted "fast lane"
Yeah, but there are many signs that read: Slower Traffic Keep Right

So what exactly does this mean? It means the far left lane is for passing. In this area with three lanes, the middle lane would also be for passing the slowest traffic in the far right lane.

There are always those drivers that purposly get in the far left lane and deliberately hold-up drivers that want to go faster than the posted speed limit. Personally, I think that's a terrible attitude and could result in somebody getting hurt.

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Old 08-16-2012, 04:50 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=DogZilla15;4229743]OSP won't pull you over till you're going at least nine over the posted speed when on the freeway or rural roads. City and county have different protocol depending on the area. Sort of depends on who's watching.[/QUOTE"']
I would not bet the farm on that. I was in court and a lady was fighting a citation for 4 mph over in a 50 mph.
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My ex was OSP...he used to go slower just to watch everyone scared to pass him. Bored, I guess!!! Just looking for cheap entertainment as a break from chasing taillights all shift.
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I agree that "Fast Lane" may not mean fast to alot of people who have the belief that they are entitled to go any speed in any lane.
But in most states it is defined in their rules of the road as the inside lane while the outside lane is the slow lane. I think the signage reflects more that slower moving traffic to move to the right lane- if you are looking for sigange - other wise look atthe manual

I have lived in regions where people driving slow in the fast lane are ticketed for driving slow in the fast lane.
I think that you completely missed my point about where the fast lane is.

As far as I know all three lanes when the speed limit is posted 65 for autos, the speed limit is 65 mph. I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane.

So again I ask where is this so called fast lane that people speak of when all 3 lanes of traffic posted 65 mph?

If you havent noticed it kind of irks me when people say fast lane because there is no such thing as a fast lane on that stretch of freeway.
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I think that you completely missed my point about where the fast lane is.

As far as I know all three lanes when the speed limit is posted 65 for autos, the speed limit is 65 mph. I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane.

So again I ask where is this so called fast lane that people speak of when all 3 lanes of traffic posted 65 mph?

If you havent noticed it kind of irks me when people say fast lane because there is no such thing as a fast lane on that stretch of freeway.

Let me guess.......your the guy who travels the posted speed limit in the far left lane and then wonders why everyody tells you that you are "number one" as they have to pass on the right.

Have you ever noticed the signs that say slower traffic keep right?

Oh.... to the OP, I know exactly what you are talking about. I have driven 50K-60K a year for 15 years and I see it frequently. I pass state patrol, sheriff, city police etc all the time and I have never been pulled over for doing it.

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Here we go again, all you guys that want to meet God early, please just don't involve me when you do.
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SEATTLE – Washington state troopers in King County pulled over 223 drivers last month who camped out in the freeway passing lane, breaking a law that not many drivers know about. Of those, 199 were let off with warnings.

The Washington State Patrol is putting higher emphasis on keeping slower traffic in the right lane and out of the left general purpose lane, which is the designated passing lane.

Many of those who were pulled over didn't know it was against the law, the state patrol said. Troopers told them to stay out of the left lane if traveling below freeway speeds and not to travel continuously in the left lane for no reason. Violators could be fined $124.

One of the concerns for enforcing the law is aggressive drivers who get frustrated at the slower traffic in front of them and, as a result, dart from lane to lane to get by other cars.

The HOV lane does not count as the so-called "fast lane." However, that is not the case on those freeways that have HOV lanes that are not enforced 24 hours a day, such as Interstate 405, Interstate 90 east of I-405 and State Route 167. Those HOV lanes are only enforced 5 a.m. to 7 p.m. At all other times, the HOV lane then becomes the designated passing lane.

"When HOV lanes are open to all traffic, they should be treated like a regular left-side freeway lane. Left-side freeway lanes are normally reserved for passing, so are only to be used to pass," WSP spokesman Dan Coon told KING 5 last month.
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SEATTLE – Washington state troopers in King County pulled over 223 drivers last month who camped out in the freeway passing lane, breaking a law that not many drivers know about. Of those, 199 were let off with warnings.

The Washington State Patrol is putting higher emphasis on keeping slower traffic in the right lane and out of the left general purpose lane, which is the designated passing lane.

Many of those who were pulled over didn't know it was against the law, the state patrol said. Troopers told them to stay out of the left lane if traveling below freeway speeds and not to travel continuously in the left lane for no reason. Violators could be fined $124.

One of the concerns for enforcing the law is aggressive drivers who get frustrated at the slower traffic in front of them and, as a result, dart from lane to lane to get by other cars.

The HOV lane does not count as the so-called "fast lane." However, that is not the case on those freeways that have HOV lanes that are not enforced 24 hours a day, such as Interstate 405, Interstate 90 east of I-405 and State Route 167. Those HOV lanes are only enforced 5 a.m. to 7 p.m. At all other times, the HOV lane then becomes the designated passing lane.

"When HOV lanes are open to all traffic, they should be treated like a regular left-side freeway lane. Left-side freeway lanes are normally reserved for passing, so are only to be used to pass," WSP spokesman Dan Coon told KING 5 last month.
I think those staters might be able to write better tickets to aggressive drivers if they camped out in the "fast lane" in unmarked cars traveling the maximum speed posted.
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Let me guess.......your the guy who travels the posted speed limit in the far left lane and then wonders why everyody tells you that you are "number one" as they have to pass on the right.

Have you ever noticed the signs that say slower traffic keep right?

Oh.... to the OP, I know exactly what you are talking about. I have driven 50K-60K a year for 15 years and I see it frequently. I pass state patrol, sheriff, city police etc all the time and I have never been pulled over for doing it.
No actually you are incorrect Cast Away, I am the guy in the middle lane going the posted speed limit which if I remeber right it is the same posted speed for the left lane. Am I correct? Please inform if I am wrong and if I am wrong show me the documentation to support it.
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Here we go again, all you guys that want to meet God early, please just don't involve me when you do.

Nobody wants to "meet god" as you put it. We do want to get to our destination in a timely and safe manner however. If the speed limit is posted at 65mph and I am in the far left lane traveling at 69mph then I am smart enough to understand that I need to move to the right for a vehicle traveling at 71mph.

Nuff said!
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Like I said, "here we go again". Nuff said.
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No actually you are incorrect Cast Away, I am the guy in the middle lane going the posted speed limit which if I remeber right it is the same posted speed for the left lane. Am I correct? Please inform if I am wrong and if I am wrong show me the documentation to support it.

If your in the middle lane then you are just fine.

Next time your on the freeway take a look around at the signs posted every so often that say slower traffic keep right. They dont say slower traffic, BUT NOT IF YOU ARE DOING THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

The reason is simple. A freeway is designed to keep moving with vehicles at different speeds. If slower vehicles keep right then passing is safer for everyone.


I totally understand that you were the kid on the palyground that was afraid to run to fast durring dodge ball.
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I got no problem passing a cop, I got no problem telling a cop to take a hike, got no problem telling a cop ya got a ticket to write then write it...... I also have no problem giving a lawyer $$$ before I give the state, city, or county another ......
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sssooo either you or the osp owes me a refund and a explanation


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Old 08-16-2012, 07:26 PM   #24
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All I can say is good.... Wonder if they can go after the people who hold up the middle lane too, so the trucks that have trailers can pass them....
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It seems clear to me that there are some people on this forum that travel at the posted maximum speed limit in the left lane. My second takeaway is that some of those same people get some perverse pleasure out of staying in the left lane knowing that there is someone behind them that wants to go faster.

Why not just get out of their way? What are you, the left lane police?

I just don't understand what is gained by staying in the left lane if there is another lane to the right available. Leave it open in case there is an Emergency vehicle or someone with explosive diarrhea that needs to go faster
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It seems clear to me that there are some people on this forum that travel at the posted maximum speed limit in the left lane. My second takeaway is that some of those same people get some perverse pleasure out of staying in the left lane knowing that there is someone behind them that wants to go faster.

Why not just get out of their way? What are you, the left lane police?

I just don't understand what is gained by staying in the left lane if there is another lane to the right available. Leave it open in case there is an Emergency vehicle or someone with explosive diarrhea that needs to go faster


Simple solution be a decent human being drive the speed limit ( speeding is in fact wrong to do)
Keep right except to pass....

If I am going the speed limit in the left lane and am passing other cars and you come flying up behind me it is not my responsibility to get out of your way it is your responsibility to not travel faster than the posted speed limit but rest assured when I am done passing I will get over..
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Last time I read the drivers manual - it was in there. Go find a drivers manual.

You do not need to label everything on the freeway. We can expect people to have actually read the rules of the road. Which might be a good refresher for a lot of people.

Fast lane ( commonly called passing lane) is far left lane- right lane is for slower vehicles. They actually post a sign "Slow traffic use right lane"- If you are not doing the flow of traffic - get in the right lane.

If it irks you - suggest not driving on freeways. There are nice side roads you can take.

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I think that you completely missed my point about where the fast lane is.

As far as I know all three lanes when the speed limit is posted 65 for autos, the speed limit is 65 mph. I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane.

So again I ask where is this so called fast lane that people speak of when all 3 lanes of traffic posted 65 mph?

If you havent noticed it kind of irks me when people say fast lane because there is no such thing as a fast lane on that stretch of freeway.

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I drive for a living and I drive as fast as I need too to get my job done.... I also drive safely and it is possible to drive 10-15 over the speed limit and do it safely. On the freeway the right lane is for people getting ready to exit or doing the speed limit, all other lanes are for and in order thru traffic, and passing...A ticket for 4 miles over the limit says you were wreckless with your speeding.... A ticket for 20 over beat by a lawyer tells the cop to go eat another doughnut!!!!

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I guess I am the exception, I like the people that drive like idiots in the left lane. They have a habbit of clearing the free way of Troopers so I can drive over the speed limit.
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I think the issue is more along the lines that people are doing less than the legal speed limit which happens alot.

Assuming you are not in stop and go rush hour traffic - general rule is leave left lane open expect for passing . Many states enforce that sentiment - ticket for holding up traffic.- particularly big trucks.. Other do not. I view Oregon in the later.

Want to have fun - try driving the speed limit in the right lane. They will run you off the road.

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If I am going the speed limit in the left lane and am passing other cars and you come flying up behind me it is not my responsibility to get out of your way it is your responsibility to not travel faster than the posted speed limit but rest assured when I am done passing I will get over..
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[QUOTE=sadiesassy;4230100]I think the issue is more along the lines that people are doing less than the legal speed limit which happens alot.
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It's a speed limit, not a speed requirement.

I agree if you are going less than the posted limit, stay in the right lane whenever possible.

Unless someone is experiencing an emergency, there is NEVER a good reason to go over the speed limit. EVER!

Here in Hawaii they post minimum as well as maximum speed limits, and you can get tickets for being on the wrong side of either limit.
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Last time I read the drivers manual - it was in there. Go find a drivers manual.

You do not need to label everything on the freeway. We can expect people to have actually read the rules of the road. Which might be a good refresher for a lot of people.

Fast lane ( commonly called passing lane) is far left lane- right lane is for slower vehicles. They actually post a sign "Slow traffic use right lane"- If you are not doing the flow of traffic - get in the right lane.

If it irks you - suggest not driving on freeways. There are nice side roads you can take.
Isnt that pretty much what I said? Here it is again maybe you will read it this time "I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane."
I do also realize the left lane is for faster traveling vehicles, but those vehicles still should not be going over 65 mph. Am I wrong?

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Isnt that pretty much what I said? Here it is again maybe you will read it this time "I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane."
I do also realize the left lane is for faster traveling vehicles, but those vehicles still should not be going over 65 mph. Am I wrong?

are you being serious? your joking right? i hope your joking. no matter what the posted speed is you will always have drivers that are gonna cruise along a tad bit faster. just move to the right and let them go.
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you cannot drive on a busy freeway going 10 to 15 mph over the limit and even come close to calling it safe.

regardless of what lane you are in you should not expect people going the legal limit to get out of your way.. it's that simple if you are speeding you are in the wrong if you get mad about people being in your way that's completely your issue and has nothing to do with them.. you are 100% responsible for your anger.. however people should keep right except to pass..
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are you being serious? your joking right? i hope your joking. no matter what the posted speed is you will always have drivers that are gonna cruise along a tad bit faster. just move to the right and let them go.
Oh I do stay in the middle or right lane. I very rarely go over into the left lane unless it is to pass and then I get back over.
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tsorrels: OSP's fine schedule according to speeds over the posted speed begins at 9 mph over the posted speed. I assume this is in effect where the posted speed is 55 or more on highways not under the control of some local municipality. At that point, the rules of local ordinances would be in effect although OSP doesn't generally patrol areas where local authorities operate. OSP, county LE and city LE, all have different rules/guidelines under which they operate.
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I drive for a living and I drive as fast as I need too to get my job done.... I also drive safely and it is possible to drive 10-15 over the speed limit and do it safely. On the freeway the right lane is for people getting ready to exit or doing the speed limit, all other lanes are for and in order thru traffic, and passing...A ticket for 4 miles over the limit says you were wreckless with your speeding.... A ticket for 20 over beat by a lawyer tells the cop to go eat another doughnut!!!!

Are lawyers free?

Seems to me you'd be paying a lawyer 200-300 dollars to beat a 150 dollar ticket.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:59 PM   #38
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You guys crack me up....Did you not know but most of your cars and trucks speedos are off more than you think. Id be hard pressed to find one that's dead nuts on.
Federal law states that for car manufactures, cars or trucks speedos must be within +/- 5 or 7MPH (I don't remember).
My stock little 2wd pick-up truck with stock tires and stock gears; At 65mph speedo reads 5mph faster than what I'm really going. This was verified with GPS, on board computer, radar, and marking my mileage with the mileage markers posted along I5.
So, if I think I'm going to be a goodie goodie high way police like some of these Ifisher's and drive the posted speed limit in the fast/passing lane, then in fact I'll be the tool who is driving too slow and could then get a ticket for holding up traffic or cause some nut case to blow up and try and kill me.....
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I love these threads. Yes, the speed limit is the same in all of the lanes.....It IS!!!!
If you need to get to your destination in a timely manner, leave with enough time to do so, WITHOUT taking extra risks. THANKS!

Who do these people who need to drive fast think they are? PLEASE, don't risk OUR lives because you "need" to get to your destination 60 seconds faster.

PLEASE!!!!

BTW - I was pulled over for doing 57 in a 55 one time. TRUE STORY!!!! I was warned and let go. It COULDN'T have been because I was a 20 something, shaggy haired blonde kid, driving a Ford PU with surfboards on the roof, down a country road later in the evening... I think he thought he was going to get me for DUI.......He almost DID!!!! Good thing I waited until I was back at the cabin!!!!
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Doesn't your tire size affect the speedometer?

When its heavy, commuter-time traffic, I have noticed that the on ramps plug things up so in those areas, I drive the middle lane. In light traffic, I drive the right lane. If the left lane is fairly open and I'm going some distance and traffic is slow in the 2 right lanes, I'll drive that but I keep an eye on the rear view mirror and if someone is catching up, I'll get over and let the idiot pass and hope to see him/her pulled over down the road. Never do, dang it! I maintain 55-60 or just go with the flow of traffic.

Most rude drivers on the road? Young women! Insurance companies ought to do to them what they used to automatically do to young men years ago. Your insurance rate is based on your gender and age if under 26. They seem to have such an attitude behind the wheel. I know...not fair. Some good young women drivers. Next worst drivers? Old men. Probably could remove all their car mirrors and they would never notice. And, heaven forbid, you signal to move into their lane ahead of them. They'll close that gap as quick as they can. Heck, there's just a whole lot of rude drivers out there period!

Heavy commuter traffic and on ramps? I always let one or two cars in...I wonder if everyone did that, there wouldn't be such a bottle neck. I always leave space behind the car in front of me but geez...never fails that someone who thinks they can weave in and out and get ahead of the mess will dart in at the last minute causing me to hit the brake. Next car is definitely going to have an automatic transmission....shift, shift, shift in heavy traffic.

But I digress AGAIN! Sorry (and I'll pass a cop if I can do it without exceeding the speed limit)
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Are lawyers free?

Seems to me you'd be paying a lawyer 200-300 dollars to beat a 150 dollar ticket.

$225.00 aint bad and its better then giving my cash to the state. It also keeps the ticket off your record and you insurance premium wont go up, so how dumb does it sound now?
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Drive right pass left and keep out of the left lane (fast lane) if you are not keeping up with the flow of trafic. If you can't/won't keep up with the flow of trafic get off the road and cause problems for those of us that prefer to drive the secondary highways.
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Funny how there'e such a stink about the "Slower Traffic Keep Right" law- while the same people feel it's OK to blatantly, routinely break the "Speed LIMIT" law sign. And indeed brag about it.

And THIS:

"""One of the concerns for enforcing the law is aggressive drivers who get frustrated at the slower traffic in front of them and, as a result, dart from lane to lane to get by other cars.""

-is 180 degrees BACKWARDS! The police should be arresting the wreckless/angry aggressive drivers doing all the insanely dangerous lane switching.
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I agree that "Fast Lane" may not mean fast to alot of people who have the belief that they are entitled to go any speed in any lane.
But in most states it is defined in their rules of the road as the inside lane while the outside lane is the slow lane. I think the signage reflects more that slower moving traffic to move to the right lane- if you are looking for sigange - other wise look atthe manual

I have lived in regions where people driving slow in the fast lane are ticketed for driving slow in the fast lane.

That did take long to hijack the thread - good work boys - get the fans out because the lock o meter is running
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Drive right pass left and keep out of the left lane (fast lane) if you are not keeping up with the flow of trafic. If you can't/won't keep up with the flow of trafic get off the road and cause problems for those of us that prefer to drive the secondary highways.

ummm ones who are going over the posted speed limit are the ones causing the problems.. the ones going the speed limit are the ones doing the right thing and it is very very very wrong for people breaking the law to tell other people to break the law and then blame problems on them if they don't.. If a person is going the speed limit and everyone around him is speeding it is the majority who are speeding that are making things dangerous not the one obeying the law... That is the fundamental misunderstanding in this whole argument . there needs to be a huge crackdown on people going 10 mph over the posted limit on freeways.. OPS should be writing hundreds of tickets per day in Portland alone...
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That did take long to hijack the thread - good work boys - get the fans out because the lock o meter is running
And girls...I did my share, too. BUT actually its evolved into an interesting conversation. (unless the OP is unhappy with where we have taken his thread)
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Man, you guys crack me up! Please, if you come to Central America, just drive your car to the best of your ability and try to stay out of the way!

We don't have "speed envy" here. No "left lane police". If you want to try to keep up with the buses going over the mountains, go right ahead. But if you decide to get in their way by sitting in the left lane expect to be forced off the road and not gently.

You have the best roads in the world and spend more to control people's speed (and everything else) than anywhere. Why do so many of you think that the speed limit is so sacrosanct that you need to impede anyone who doesn't believe as you do? Why the deeply seated need to "be right" and fore everyone else to "be right"? Just drive your car.
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Funny how there'e such a stink about the "Slower Traffic Keep Right" law- while the same people feel it's OK to blatantly, routinely break the "Speed LIMIT" law sign. And indeed brag about it.

And THIS:

"""One of the concerns for enforcing the law is aggressive drivers who get frustrated at the slower traffic in front of them and, as a result, dart from lane to lane to get by other cars.""

-is 180 degrees BACKWARDS! The police should be arresting the wreckless/angry aggressive drivers doing all the insanely dangerous lane switching.
Ticket impeders as well as agressive drivers but keep to the right, especialy if you are driving slower. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

IMPEDERS CAUSE A BIG % OF AGRESSIVE DRIVING

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ummm ones who are going over the posted speed limit are the ones causing the problems.. the ones going the speed limit are the ones doing the right thing and it is very very very wrong for people breaking the law to tell other people to break the law and then blame problems on them if they don't.. If a person is going the speed limit and everyone around him is speeding it is the majority who are speeding that are making things dangerous not the one obeying the law... That is the fundamental misunderstanding in this whole argument . there needs to be a huge crackdown on people going 10 mph over the posted limit on freeways.. OPS should be writing hundreds of tickets per day in Portland alone...

Move to the right, it's not up to you to decide how fast someone can safely drive.

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Man, you guys crack me up! Please, if you come to Central America, just drive your car to the best of your ability and try to stay out of the way!

We don't have "speed envy" here. No "left lane police". If you want to try to keep up with the buses going over the mountains, go right ahead. But if you decide to get in their way by sitting in the left lane expect to be forced off the road and not gently.

You have the best roads in the world and spend more to control people's speed (and everything else) than anywhere. Why do so many of you think that the speed limit is so sacrosanct that you need to impede anyone who doesn't believe as you do? Why the deeply seated need to "be right" and fore everyone else to "be right"? Just drive your car.
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YOU are the guy who costs me a extra hour every day in traffic!! Holy driver and we are sinners, and god has empowered you to slow us down!!! Heres me FINGER!!!

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Isnt that pretty much what I said? Here it is again maybe you will read it this time "I do also know that slower vehicles are supposed to go to the far right lane."
I do also realize the left lane is for faster traveling vehicles, but those vehicles still should not be going over 65 mph. Am I wrong?
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YOU are the guy who costs me a extra hour every day in traffic!! Holy driver and we are sinners, and god has empowered you to slow us down!!! Heres me FINGER!!!
Can I ask you respectfully who the speed limit applies to? Can I also suggest respectfully to leave earlier? I know, I know...the finger to me, too...lol
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Can I ask you respectfully who the speed limit applies to? Can I also suggest respectfully to leave earlier? I know, I know...the finger to me, too...lol
Drive to the right and let them pass, what harm does that do to you? If LE thinks they are driving unsafely they will get ticketed. IT IS NOT UP TO US to inforce the unjustifably slow speed set in many places. Most of our freeways in rural parts of our state can be driven safely at speeds in excess of 80mph but I rarely drive faster than 75mph, 70mph on HW 97. There are place and times when the posted speed limit is unsafe.

BTW, any of you impeders ever hear of the Basic Rule?
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Can I ask you respectfully who the speed limit applies to? Can I also suggest respectfully to leave earlier? I know, I know...the finger to me, too...lol
Sure. The speed limit applies to you and you are the only one you need to worry about unless you are carrying a badge and a gun.
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Everybody has pretty much stated that even if they don't ever exceed the speed limit, that they will use the left lane only to pass, and will move to the right when the pass is completed.

That is perfect. That is what we should all be doing regardless of how fast one drives. Use the left lane to pass, then move back to the right.

I think some folks on here just want to argue. If you can't wait for someone to complete a pass and move over, you might need to work on your patience a bit.

I love road trips and driving. What keeps me interested is paying great attention to what is going on around me. I like the process of using the right lane and when coming up to a slower vehicle, moving over to pass, then moving to the right lane again. It keeps me busy and interested.
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tsorrels: OSP's fine schedule according to speeds over the posted speed begins at 9 mph over the posted speed.
This is not accurate. Violations start at ONE mile per hour over the limit:

http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/811.109
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sssooo either you or the osp owes me a refund and a explanation

Me to please..I dont need the explanation... Just the funds
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This is not accurate. Violations start at ONE mile per hour over the limit:

http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/811.109
Not nesasassarly so in eastern Oregon, you can be ticked for speeding even if you are below the posted speed limit if the conditions warent it, see the Basic Rule. You can also semi legaly drive 70mph (75mph in some places) in eastern Oregon in a posted 55 zone if the road conditions make it safe. Most of the time 70mph is a good and safe speed on HW 97. On some parts of HW 140 70mph can be crazy.
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Not arguing that fact. Merely that you CAN be cited for one mile an hour over the limit.
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Not arguing that fact. Merely that you CAN be cited for one mile an hour over the limit.
I agree with what you posted and I don't think the Basic Rule applies to west of the Cascades.
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VBR can also apply for speeds under the speed limit, according to conditions, like driving on snow and ice.
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It seems clear to me that there are some people on this forum that travel at the posted maximum speed limit in the left lane. My second takeaway is that some of those same people get some perverse pleasure out of staying in the left lane knowing that there is someone behind them that wants to go faster.

Why not just get out of their way? What are you, the left lane police?

I just don't understand what is gained by staying in the left lane if there is another lane to the right available. Leave it open in case there is an Emergency vehicle or someone with explosive diarrhea that needs to go faster
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Simple solution be a decent human being drive the speed limit ( speeding is in fact wrong to do)
Keep right except to pass....

If I am going the speed limit in the left lane and am passing other cars and you come flying up behind me it is not my responsibility to get out of your way it is your responsibility to not travel faster than the posted speed limit but rest assured when I am done passing I will get over..



Explosive Diarrhea, Now that is funny, but I do see the impact of having someone holding up traffic driving the speed limit in the left lane when they could be driving the same speed in the right lane.

Now this is very hard to do.
But for once I am going to have to agree with Rob Allen.


What frosts my nose is the people that drive in a designated passing lane going up hill and will not pull over when there is no one else in the right lane ahead of them . And there is a sign at the bottom/start of passing lane that saysSTAY RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS . In Oregon the Washington drivers are the worst at doing this, really bad on HWY30 between Astoria and the Longview Bridge.

Pass and pull over is my motto.

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I will agree with Dodzilla's post below mine also.
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