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Old 09-17-2019, 09:01 PM   #1
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Holy schmoly, what agony! I'm sure I looked crazy beating my hands and head on the ER wall, but keerap.

For those who have dealt with this, how long did the soreness last after passing the stone? It moved on sometime early Monday morning....but I'm more sore this evening than anytime since! And of course it's the last weekend of archery coming up....

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Holy schmoly, what agony! I'm sure I looked crazy beating my hands and head on the ER wall, but keerap.

For those who have dealt with this, how long did the soreness last after passing the stone? It moved on sometime early Monday morning....but I'm more sore this evening than anytime since! And of course it's the last weekend of archery coming up....

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I never experienced any side effects after the stones passed! Except for being a little tired.


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Wow Kyle.
You might want to go get another checkup.
Had them twice, and it lasted for 4 day's and nights, before passing them. They went down the chute, and instant relief. Zero after effects.
Go get a second checkup.
Stay away from chocolates and calcium products.
Oxylate (sp?), and calcium combine to produce those nasty little sea urchins.
Drink tons of water when you feel them coming on.

Funny thing... I was doing the same job as you out in the woods, when I had my first attack.
Must be job related?
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Yea, no after effects for me. Just a lot of relief.

It is funny when you go to the ER and when you are laying on the floor in the fetal position squirming in pain the nurses walk up and already know. They nonchalantly the ask if this is your first time passing a stone. If I could have move there may have been some blood shed. All is forgiven when they put Dilaudid into the IV. You can just lay there and watch the ceiling do its magical dancing and not have a care in the world.
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:38 AM   #5
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Yea, no after effects for me. Just a lot of relief.

It is funny when you go to the ER and when you are laying on the floor in the fetal position squirming in pain the nurses walk up and already know. They nonchalantly the ask if this is your first time passing a stone. If I could have move there may have been some blood shed. All is forgiven when they put Dilaudid into the IV. You can just lay there and watch the ceiling do its magical dancing and not have a care in the world.
It would be great to get the IV, BEFORE you get the pain. Not sure how to work that, though.

I have yet to experience them, but have a good friend that is right now. He says it's the worst pain he has ever felt. I hope to somehow avoid them completely!
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Old 09-18-2019, 08:15 AM   #6
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Had my first experience earlier this year, hopefully the last, had no idea what it was, I was at work when it happened, it came on very fast, I tried to drive back to my primary reporting office, but only made a few miles & had to pulled over, as the pain was so bad by than my vision was getting blurry, got out & puked several times, called my boss but he was not close enough to help, so I called 911, when the paramedics showed up they knew what it was right away, gave me some medicine which helped greatly, it was still a very rough ride to the hospital during rush hour, long wait at the hospital did not help either, they took a cat scan & determined it was a 4 mil stone, gave me medicine to break up the stone, & it passed without pain, altho the pain medicine probably helped dull the pain, in hind sight I think I've had a few smaller stones that passed with minor pain in the past, but just did not know what it was at the time, now I know, I've known others that have had kidney stones, they all told stories of the terrible pain, but until you experience it for yourself, you don't have a clue what they were talking about.
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When I was in the ER with mine, the nurse there said she'd had kids and she's had kidney stones.
She prefers to have kids.
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:32 AM   #8
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Perhaps the OP had more than 1 stone. I learned that if I don't stay well hydrated, it does not take long for symptoms to return.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:00 AM   #9
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Had one surgically removed in June and had another blown up 2 weeks ago. Zero soreness after either--in respect to what you describe. After they blew up the one recently I had no soreness whatsoever....

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Old 09-18-2019, 09:08 PM   #10
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Passed one quite a few years ago. Luckily the pain only lasted about 10 minutes. Had another one a couple of years ago and it last a lot longer. Started having pains while at work and within about 15 minutes had to have some one come finish my day of work. Some how drove myself to the doctors office, then the pharmacy and then home. Doc gave me some pain meds and flow max and told me to drink plenty water. I could only get decent pain relief by laying on my left side. Two days later and I was pretty much good to go. They say it's the closest pain to child birth that a man can experience.
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Are you doing ok Kyle?
Give us the lowdown?
Hope all is well and not any interior damage.
Get well soonish!
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:46 PM   #12
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Where to start...

I've passed several starting in 2007. Mine seem to come like the election cycle, every 4 years. 1st one was a 7 mm stone that reminded me of a sea urchin. 11:59 wake up in a SF hotel while traveling for business. You meet some very interesting people in the ER at that time of the night.

2nd one I passed with a bit less pain, but ended up with a kidney infection afterwards. The pain lasted until I got some antibiotics to deal with it.

The last one was a great anniversary present for my wife and I. Luckily the ER doc knew what the pain was like and hooked me up with meds right away.

Couple of things to consider: drink a lot of water, less soda, coffee or energy drinks. These will all help, but as my urologist reminded me, some of us are just prolific producers. Yippee

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Old 09-19-2019, 09:22 AM   #13
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Yup. Oxalate and calcium combined causes most of them, according to one of my doc's.
He gave me a list of all the foods the oxalate comes in. Pretty amazing.
Chocolate was the worst, but some were mind boggling. Like Swiss chard and beans.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:38 PM   #14
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Passed one about 30 years ago. Went to bed and started hurting, 15 minutes later I was doubled up and trying to get dressed to go to the ER. Which I did. Spent the night. One of the worse pains I've ever felt.

Maybe 20 years ago there was a NASCAR driver driving a 500 miler with a kidney stone. Don't remember who it was, but he's a far better man that I.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:26 PM   #15
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My daughter has cystine stones that grow in days. She has suffered since she was about 17. She is in her mid forties now. She always has them and she is very stubborn and tries her best to pass them herself. I think her personal record was a 4 mm stone. She has a 5 plus right now. But because she has a Crossfit competition this weekend in Seattle she is going to go do that, drive home Monday morning. Change her clothes and go check in the hospital to get it taken care of Monday afternoon.

They have to go up into the kidney and blast with a laser. Then they have to spend a lot of time cleaning out everything because each microscopic crystal becomes a seed for another stone.

She is tough enough about it that her urologist makes sure he schedules her for surgery immediately when she calls because he knows she won't call him until she is almost completely incapacitated.

And she will be back in the gym by Wednesday I bet. I love her, but she's a bit crazy.
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:25 PM   #16
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I was doubled over in pain at the ER a few years ago right before Xmas. Couldn't speak. Drove myself to hospital and just handed my wallet to the desk. She said "Oh you have kidney stones" matter of factly. They put me in the little room (it was 3am so no wait) and gave me a shot of Dilaudid. I immediately uncurled out of a fetal ball and (I have no memory of this) sent a flurry of texts to relatives and co workers. They received these at about a quarter to 5 am.

I have never felt such a unique rush of relief and euphoria. A couple days later I read up on Dilaudid and it is essentially Heroin. It honestly scared me how I went from feeling arguably the worst I had felt to the best in 30 seconds. Frightening honestly.

Turned out I had an appendix about to burst and it wasn't a kidney stone but they didn't figure that out until they poked around my gut for 10 minutes.



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It is funny when you go to the ER and when you are laying on the floor in the fetal position squirming in pain the nurses walk up and already know. They nonchalantly the ask if this is your first time passing a stone. If I could have move there may have been some blood shed. All is forgiven when they put Dilaudid into the IV. You can just lay there and watch the ceiling do its magical dancing and not have a care in the world.
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YIKES!
I've been watching my diet / intake very closely for years now. And have avoided several episodes.
Get that feeling , and start pumping down gallons of water. Has been working good since the last episode in the late 90's.
Study up folks. It could save you a ton of pain and hospital bill's.
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The ER nurse that helped me through my first and only episode last year told me she'd had 6 kids and one kidney stone. She would rather birth another kid than have another kidney stone.
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The ER nurse that helped me through my first and only episode last year told me she'd had 6 kids and one kidney stone. She would rather birth another kid than have another kidney stone.
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I'm alive. Still soreness in the area, but almost gone now. Walked a few miles today with a bow in my hand, wish I would have done it yesterday.

I talked to several other people that had lasting soreness, but only for a couple days.

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I'm alive. Still soreness in the area, but almost gone now. Walked a few miles today with a bow in my hand, wish I would have done it yesterday.

I talked to several other people that had lasting soreness, but only for a couple days.

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I passed one in the back seat of an Apache Helicopter while on a 12 hour mission in Afghanistan..... I just strapped on the relief bag and worked on it till I finally "peed the pellet". Bad Night......
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I passed one in the back seat of an Apache Helicopter while on a 12 hour mission in Afghanistan..... I just strapped on the relief bag and worked on it till I finally "peed the pellet". Bad Night......
Shoulda just dropped it out the door.
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Probably would have got caught in the tail prop.
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