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Old 07-10-2019, 09:30 AM   #1
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I’ve been scouting and checking cameras all summer and I’ve seen over a hundred does and only 1 has had a fawn. In years past I’ve had hundreds of pictures of does and fawns. This has me very worried

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On my property 4 does and 1 fawn.
No bucks in 3 yrs.
Saw 1 spike down the road.
Hound man killed 3 cats in 1 yr on forest property 1 mile up the road
1 bear last week on neighbors property
Vineyard Mexicans shot 2 does last yr in a so called "hazing"

I'm hoping most of the does still haven't brought out there fawns yet

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Old 07-10-2019, 10:22 AM   #3
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Lots of fawns and calves both on my valley cams. Lots of does with twins
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:54 AM   #4
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On my property 4 does and 1 fawn.
No bucks in 3 yrs.
Saw 1 spike down the road.
Hound man killed 3 cats in 1 yr on forest property 1 mile up the road
1 bear last week on neighbors property
Vineyard Mexicans shot 2 does last yr in a so called "hazing"

I'm hoping most of the does still haven't brought out there fawns yet
That’s what I’m hoping as well but on a bright not I have lots of nice mature bucks on camera
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same with me by the molalla river. probably 20 different does and 6 bucks but i've only seen one fawn on camera. Really weird. I'm hoping they are just late or staying off camera someplace.
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Old 07-10-2019, 01:25 PM   #6
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7/7 on the northern coast saw 3 does 2 of which had a fawn. 1 of the fawns was the smallest ive seen in the wild so they are dropping now.
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I've had 7 cameras out the past 5 weeks on salt and have zero fawns.
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7/7 on the northern coast saw 3 does 2 of which had a fawn. 1 of the fawns was the smallest ive seen in the wild so they are dropping now.
That would be a late fawn, most fawns drop around the first week in June (Blacktails).
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fawn numbers are good in my neighborhood. I haven't seen a doe without at least one.
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:25 PM   #10
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Multiple cameras, Zero fawns as of 07/02.
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:55 PM   #11
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They're starting to show up here. I've seen one doe with twins and one with a single. A couple bucks in velvet moving into and out of the alfalfa fields. Not moving around much though.
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I don't have any cameras out near the house right now. The fawns dropped a few weeks ago. Been seeing them around the fringes starting 2-3 weeks ago. The does are starting to bring them out on the lawn occasionally. Yesterday AM early there were twins unattended on the lawn.
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Old 07-10-2019, 06:29 PM   #13
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Here’s a fawn picture
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Old 07-10-2019, 06:38 PM   #14
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Here’s a fawn picture

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Here’s a fawn picture
Ooooo ... That's motivation for taking out the Coyotes

BTW - For the South Coast I'd throw in that I'm seeing about average for the number of Does with fawns. I see most early in the morning while running. Oddly enough when driving out in the woods yesterday (work), a little guy popped out in the road in front of me. I backed way off but it still bounded about 100 yards down the road before finding a spot to get off. No Mommy in sight Probably Coyote food by now
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Here's a fawn picture as well, taken 6/08. It didn't get away either (obviously), subsequent picture has it pinned in the background. Pretty unfortunate.
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Amazing camera shots!
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:51 AM   #18
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While driving home from Astoria a week ago, saw 8 does from the road, zero fawns.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:31 AM   #19
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In my little corner of northeast Oregon, mid-June, some does had single fawns only. Now those same does have no fawns. Lots of elk calves, but I haven't seen a deer fawn on my drive into Elgin in several weeks.
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:27 AM   #20
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running trail cameras in mt. emily here in eastern oregon the past couple years i've only had 1 fawn on camera over the past 2 years. after spending a lot of time the past 2 years in Mt. Emily, i've seen more bear, wolves, and cougar than i have seen fawns and calf, especially this year.

So far this year i have 1 calf on camera. cameras have been out since mid may in some areas and i've only seen 1 deer.

fortunately i've seen plenty bull even though i'll be waiting another 8-20 years for a tag LOL!
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:16 AM   #21
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On vacation a couple weeks ago, saw 3 fawns with does at Cove Palisades campground Lake Billy Chinook. Also saw a doe with 2 fawns just outside of Huntington, OR.

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Old 07-12-2019, 09:47 PM   #22
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Cutting some wood this evening outside of Stayton.
3 cow elk with 2 calves.
1 doe with fawn
15 or so valley quail
Hen turkey with 5 youngsters.
Woods seemed lush from the recent rains and animals were out and about.
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:58 PM   #23
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I have been scouting the Silvies unit for 3 straight weeks now. I have also seen hundreds of does, and I would say that 5-10% of them have fawns. Pretty scary.
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:24 AM   #24
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I have been scouting the Silvies unit for 3 straight weeks now. I have also seen hundreds of does, and I would say that 5-10% of them have fawns. Pretty scary.
Yes, that would qualify as being alarming, right now is the highest fawn to Doe ratio time of the year we are going to get.

Seeing much in coyote sign?
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Here's a trail cam pic a friend in MN sent me a few days ago.

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Old 07-14-2019, 03:03 PM   #26
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I saw at least 5 dead fawns and two dead does within the same 50 miles of highway on Friday.

In Oregon one out of 256 drivers reported hitting a deer last year, given there are 3.1 million licensed drivers in Oregon that equals a lot of deer.
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Old 07-14-2019, 04:44 PM   #27
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I saw at least 5 dead fawns and two dead does within the same 50 miles of highway on Friday.

In Oregon one out of 256 drivers reported hitting a deer last year, given there are 3.1 million licensed drivers in Oregon that equals a lot of deer.
12,109 would be close estimation. Almost equal to hunter harvest for Mule deer for the last year of data we have available. I bet that rate of collisions was far higher years ago.
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Old 07-15-2019, 04:03 PM   #28
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I saw a doe with twins out on Crooked River Ranch today.
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Old 07-16-2019, 09:08 PM   #29
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Yes, that would qualify as being alarming, right now is the highest fawn to Doe ratio time of the year we are going to get.

Seeing much in coyote sign?
There seems to be a lot of coyote sign in the southern portion of the unit. It’s hard to tell up north in the thick timber.
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We had 5 on the lawn at one point last night. 2 sets of twins and a single. All 3 does present. Could see a couple little bucks downriver on the neighbor's shore.



One doe has been acting "hinky". Not sure what's up. Last night she deserted her twins ... jumped over the "dog fence" into a small separate section of lawn. Her babies went clear around it 2-3 times fairly freaked out, then circled the house twice, and eventually wandered off alone upriver. Half an hour later she was still in there just feeding. At one point another doe with twins approached the fence and she seemed pretty aggressive toward those fawns. They left. Half hour later she was still in there, alone. Doesn't seem like typical deer parenting style. She looks a bit odd, carries her ears low / straight out and she's got a lot of ribs showing. Wonder if she's got worms or something.



IMHO there are too many deer there, too much inbreeding, and maybe some hair loss disease ... things would be improved if someone were allowed to take out 12-15 deer of the 25 or so deer that hang in the neighborhood. Neighbors are so caught up in "poor things" trying to save them all when triage is necessary for any to survive. Again, IMHO.
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In my little corner of northeast Oregon, mid-June, some does had single fawns only. Now those same does have no fawns. Lots of elk calves, but I haven't seen a deer fawn on my drive into Elgin in several weeks.
Update: Things may be improving. I've seen fresh fawns on my drive to/from Elgin every day this week, and a pair decided to come visit my yard last night. Looks like these may have just been very late births.
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I saw 10 fawns between yesterday and today while scouting outside of Lakeview.
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Update: Things may be improving. I've seen fresh fawns on my drive to/from Elgin every day this week, and a pair decided to come visit my yard last night. Looks like these may have just been very late births.
saw a doe on valley view rd with twins w/spots Friday....they looked good but hate seeing them feed right on the shoulder of the road.
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I saw 10 fawns between yesterday and today while scouting outside of Lakeview.
How many Does?
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:38 AM   #35
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In the unit I hunted last fall (central Oregon) most all does had twins with them. It was very promising. Not sure if any made it through that March freeze up. I live in Redmond, haven't seen a fawn yet this year. Not even in residental/farm areas around down. Hoping that changes. Will be checking my cameras this week for first time. Maybe something will show on there.
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Around 20 does.
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Around 20 does.
Most Does drop on average 1.5 fawns per Doe. Not all are viable at birth, but most are. The 20 Does you saw probably included some yearlings which are good for only 1 fawn, let's say 5 of them and if you aren't paying close attention some of the Does were last year fawns and would not have been bred (another 5). So we have 10 Does at 1.5=15 fawns and 5 more from yearlings, so 20 total that should have been born and you saw 10, so only half of expectation. We easily will loose 50% more of this years crop before they become yearlings, not good.
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Most Does drop on average 1.5 fawns per Doe. Not all are viable at birth, but most are. The 20 Does you saw probably included some yearlings which are good for only 1 fawn, let's say 5 of them and if you aren't paying close attention some of the Does were last year fawns and would not have been bred (another 5). So we have 10 Does at 1.5=15 fawns and 5 more from yearlings, so 20 total that should have been born and you saw 10, so only half of expectation. We easily will loose 50% more of this years crop before they become yearlings, not good.
Man I get things are bad, but some you guys look at things in the worst possible outcome. Sometimes the fawns are there you just don't see them also.
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:09 AM   #39
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Good amount of fawns on my ranches but lots of calves.I built a new 20 surface acre pond and we counted 40 + cows most with calves and the deer were waiting for the elk to leave and most of the does had fawns.seems about normal for our properties.These pics are from one of my small ponds,mommas drop these guys here every year,and let them swim around .




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And sometimes it's just bad...

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Old 07-27-2019, 08:28 PM   #41
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Have only seen one Blacktail fawn so far. Seems like they are keeping them hidden still.
Did get a shot of a Muley and Whitetail fawn.





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I saw 2 fawns for 4 Does on the 23rd in the local area while out scouting.
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Spent 5 days out around Anthony Lakes, didn't see any deer this time around but everything up there is green and saw lots of water on our hikes so I am sure they are around. We then visited my father in-law out in Enterprise. Saw lots of does with fawns from Enterprise through Joseph and on our way to the fishing pond we take the kids to. Father in-law also has 3 bucks, couple does and two fawns that seem to make home next to their property.
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I have trail cam pic from last week of a doe that's still pregnant, could be that there are going to be a bunch of late fawns this year
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I have trail cam pic from last week of a doe that's still pregnant, could be that there are going to be a bunch of late fawns this year
Being this late out is a death sentence, they will not be able to gain enough growth to survive the winter. This would also point towards lack of adequate breeding in the population.
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Being this late out is a death sentence, they will not be able to gain enough growth to survive the winter. This would also point towards lack of adequate breeding in the population.
Not necessarily, I've seen plenty of late fawns that survived, and there are lots of bucks per doe ratio.
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I saw 3 dead fawns on I5 between Medford and Canyonville, pretty sad.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:56 PM   #48
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I have had 15 trail cams up in the northern part of the McKenzie unit all summer and have seen several dozen fawns. Many of the does have twins and I did capture one video with triplets. We have had several cougar sightings recently around here, but I have not noticed fawns disappearing from my footage. I have roughly 5500 videos 20 seconds long that show an abundance of fawns near my place. It is much better than previous years.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to continue and watch the fawns as they venture out more as I have moved all of my cameras to the Wenaha for my Archery Elk tag this year. Regardless, the numbers seemed encouraging to me.
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Saw a doe today with 2 fawns in tow.....mollalla..in town.

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3 does and 3 fawns close to our house,seems to be more this year,up on the ranches about the same.


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Had a fawn in our yard spots are almost gone then I saw one this morning just outside our neighborhood and it was real small looked like about only 3 weeks old or so. That seems pretty late.
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Checked my cams on Saturday. First fawn of the year showed up July 15. This is Cascade foothills. Lots of bucks around last November. The same doe was a late breeder the last two years as evident by having two bucks fight over her on camera on November 27.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:03 PM   #53
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I have had 15 trail cams up in the northern part of the McKenzie unit all summer and have seen several dozen fawns. Many of the does have twins and I did capture one video with triplets. We have had several cougar sightings recently around here, but I have not noticed fawns disappearing from my footage. I have roughly 5500 videos 20 seconds long that show an abundance of fawns near my place. It is much better than previous years.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to continue and watch the fawns as they venture out more as I have moved all of my cameras to the Wenaha for my Archery Elk tag this year. Regardless, the numbers seemed encouraging to me.
I second your optimism based off of my cams/ observations. Lots of calves this year as well. I've seen at least 10 herds with nearly 1:1 cow/ calf ratio just in the greater toledo area
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:17 PM   #54
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I would like to give a quick update. I just got back from scouting and setting up camp. I saw 81 deer this morning and probably about 40% were fawns. Lots of twins.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:43 PM   #55
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Yard fawn. I know it’s super fuzzy. Sorry. It’s all I have gotten so far


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