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09-26-2020, 08:47 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Castle Rock
Posts: 2,132
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Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
We are in no hurry but will be in the market for a camp trailer in the next year or so. Any recommendation on brands to look at or avoid? Tips to look for? Thanks.
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09-26-2020, 08:59 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 577
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by duckslayer
We are in no hurry but will be in the market for a camp trailer in the next year or so. Any recommendation on brands to look at or avoid? Tips to look for? Thanks.
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Have only had one, and it was a Komfort and it was a pretty good unit.
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09-26-2020, 09:23 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bend
Posts: 1,434
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
I'm on about my 6th travel trailer. First thing I'd consider is your usage. If you're going to campgrounds primarily, get something small enough you can get in spaces, say one under 25 feet. If you're in RV parks, go south for the winter, a bigger size is really nice. Make sure to get a slide. My present one is 24 feet with 3 slides. The extra room is nice, and it's important for resale when you want to change. Everyone has their own ideas for floor plans, so look at enough of them to determine how you want it arranged. How much of the year will you use it, under what conditions? Do you need a 3 season, or 4 season trailer. I've had numerous models and brands. I like the 4 season trailers, short as I can get away with, and as much slide room as I can get. My preferred manufacturer is Outdoor RV, with Arctic Fox a close second.
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09-26-2020, 09:44 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toledo Wa
Posts: 7,472
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by sublloyd
Have only had one, and it was a Komfort and it was a pretty good unit.
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I have a 07 Komfort 252. Very well made trailer.
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09-26-2020, 10:10 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Castle Rock
Posts: 2,132
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Will be using it summer time camping at campgrounds with the wife and kids and hunting during November. Mainly just concerned with things (or brands to avoid). Good info on the length recommdations for being able to get into campground spots. Needs to sleep 4 and possibly 6 if the girls each brought a friend.
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09-26-2020, 01:16 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pleasanton, ca.
Posts: 1,447
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
My buddy’s Forest River had a weak frame. They actually paid for a rebuild. So if going hunting in a rough area, make sure it has a sturdy frame. I
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09-26-2020, 01:17 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,001
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Look into the construction. Things to avoid: wood framing, floors, sides, roof. Every trailer will eventually leak, or have a plumbing issue. Wood rots and grows mold. Aluminum and azdel do not.
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09-26-2020, 08:53 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 1,466
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Try renting a few different ones through RVShare to get a sense of what floor plans and features you like.
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09-26-2020, 08:56 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Fire Lake
Posts: 5,690
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Escape Trailers of British Columbia.
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09-26-2020, 10:07 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Castle Rock
Posts: 2,132
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by Penobscot
Escape Trailers of British Columbia.
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Is this a recommended or avoid?
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09-26-2020, 11:07 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Fire Lake
Posts: 5,690
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by duckslayer
Is this a recommended or avoid?
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Recommend
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09-27-2020, 04:25 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Nampa, Idaho USA
Posts: 2,437
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
I'm not going to make a recommendation but will share this, and you are likely already aware, RV's in general are selling for a premium right now. Two main causes for this and both are Covid related. Manufacturing was shut down and is slowly coming back making the inventory low. The other is many folks cancelled travel planes due to Covid and started buying RV's to use for family vacations.
I too am considering a trailer but plan to watch the market for awhile to see how the demand may change once many of these first time RV'ers figure out camping isn't for them and start dumping their units perhaps this winter or next spring. My $0.02
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09-27-2020, 06:32 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: bend, or
Posts: 3,235
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Northwood Manufacturing makes a sturdy quality product that holds resale very well. Their brands are Nash, Arctic Fox and Fox Mountain. We owned 2 Nash trailers, 25 and 29 foot, and never had a problem. We currently own a Rockwood (Forest River). We like the trailer but it’s definitely not as well built. For hunting I think you’ll want a sturdy frame. 25-30 ft length will give you the features you want while letting you get into some of the smaller camping spots. Once you get over 30’ you are limited.
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09-27-2020, 07:13 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Northwest
Posts: 7,541
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
I would avoid the Ultra light models unless your going pull the unit with your smart car. Everything in those units is what I call mickey mouse. The floors are mostly sandwiched foam board, light but nearly impossible to repair. The outlets are held in with rotating plastic clips. The cabinet panels are a 1/8 inch composite, something resembling cardboard. If it has a slid out ask how you would get it in should the motor assembly fail and they do fail. We had one that the owners package included a 2" long square drive bit that went into the back of the motor should the motor die. I assumed I could put that into my cordless drill and power it in. But one day I thought I would see if it was possible. Well it was not, the space was too tight for the drill and almost impossible to reach with your hand. As it turned out I made up a 6' bit extension which provided contact with the motor. As it turned out the following year the motor died with the slide partially out.
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09-27-2020, 08:15 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,223
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by duckslayer
... Needs to sleep 4 and possibly 6 if the girls each brought a friend.
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If the girls bring a friend, put all 4 in a tent! ;>)
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09-27-2020, 08:56 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Linn
Posts: 1,383
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by fish-on-bend
Northwood Manufacturing makes a sturdy quality product that holds resale very well. Their brands are Nash, Arctic Fox and Fox Mountain. We owned 2 Nash trailers, 25 and 29 foot, and never had a problem. We currently own a Rockwood (Forest River). We like the trailer but it’s definitely not as well built. For hunting I think you’ll want a sturdy frame. 25-30 ft length will give you the features you want while letting you get into some of the smaller camping spots. Once you get over 30’ you are limited.
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Northwood also makes Outdoors RV.
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09-27-2020, 04:07 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Leaburg, OR
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My brother was out at my place this afternoon to help us harvest our honey, and mentioned that his 2017 Fuzion 385 toy hauler is at the shop for a cracked frame. Fuzion is a Keystone product, and he has had many more than what I would think is an acceptable number of problems on a trailer that cost almost as much as my first home...
He is very careful with his gear, tows with a very modest stock height F-350 and has a high end fifth wheel hitch. Abuse is not a contributing factor, but is where the service manager tried to go without knowing anything about the setup. He has 12,000 miles on the trailer, and the service guy kept trying to blow it off as abuse, and then normal wear. Sounds like it is finally being handled, but after way too many conversations.. Apparently, the manufacturer that Keystone sources their frames through has had issues with this for a bit...
On the other side, I’ve heard very little bad about Outdoors RV.
What about Airstream? I know they’re expensive, but are they well built? You don’t see many of them, and I’ve always assumed it was due to cost.
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09-27-2020, 07:00 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bend
Posts: 1,434
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by jlg
Northwood also makes Outdoors RV.
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They are sister companies, but totally independent of each other. Both make great products.
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09-27-2020, 07:12 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Linn
Posts: 1,383
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by 47sgs
They are sister companies, but totally independent of each other. Both make great products.
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"Totally independent" is a massive stretch. Common ownership, common components, common philosophy. They are separate operating units of the same company.
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09-28-2020, 07:59 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Coos Bay
Posts: 2,558
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by Penobscot
Escape Trailers of British Columbia.
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 Bigfoot is also great. Only downside would be that I don't think you can get slides (I hate slides) and the prices. But you get what you pay for
4 girls with you and the Wife in a trailer?  No thanks!  Put them in a tent
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09-28-2020, 08:09 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: West Linn
Posts: 972
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by jlg
Northwood also makes Outdoors RV.
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Love my ORV, built to camp off forest service roads and worse. Does good in a CG, but with solar and large water/black tanks why use a CG?
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09-28-2020, 10:12 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: westlinn
Posts: 6,107
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
I bought a Genesis 28cr 5th wheel toy hauler last year before the panic. Very pleased with the quality. It has a on board generator, gas station , solar charger and a 100 gallon water tank for long off road camping which I do when Im hunting. I have a Anderson aluminum gooseneck 5th wheel hitch that weighs 40lbs and can be removed in 5 min. The 5th wheel is amazing when it comes to maneuvering. It is 30 ft long and 100% easier to maneuver then my old 26ft tow behind. Toy haulers are made extra heavy duty to handle cargo weight and go off road. Toy haulers typically have large wheels, high ground clearance and plumbing is tucked underneath for off road use. Having the convenience to load what ever you want/bikes, kayaks, atv, jet ski, extra tables and chairs is really useful. I also like to use the ramp deck. This is my third travel trailer and I think most Ideal for me is the toy hauler features and the 5th wheel maneuverability. I bought it in December (year end)at the rv show from Curtis and I had to wait for it to be delivered. At that time it was a good deal way below list price, now you can hardly find one and the $ are not being discounted much. I even think the small toy haulers would be the way to go if you were towing with a smaller rig.
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09-28-2020, 11:01 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Leaburg, OR
Posts: 1,385
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uhmw
I bought a Genesis 28cr 5th wheel toy hauler last year before the panic. Very pleased with the quality. It has a on board generator, gas station , solar charger and a 100 gallon water tank for long off road camping which I do when Im hunting. I have a Anderson aluminum gooseneck 5th wheel hitch that weighs 40lbs and can be removed in 5 min. The 5th wheel is amazing when it comes to maneuvering. It is 30 ft long and 100% easier to maneuver then my old 26ft tow behind. Toy haulers are made extra heavy duty to handle cargo weight and go off road. Toy haulers typically have large wheels, high ground clearance and plumbing is tucked underneath for off road use. Having the convenience to load what ever you want/bikes, kayaks, atv, jet ski, extra tables and chairs is really useful. I also like to use the ramp deck. This is my third travel trailer and I think most Ideal for me is the toy hauler features and the 5th wheel maneuverability. I bought it in December (year end)at the rv show from Curtis and I had to wait for it to be delivered. At that time it was a good deal way below list price, now you can hardly find one and the $ are not being discounted much. I even think the small toy haulers would be the way to go if you were towing with a smaller rig.
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If you’re using a 5th wheel to gooseneck adapter, please note that this will almost certainly void your frame warranty.
My bro learned this when his frame broke. He has not used one, but it was the first thing the manufacturer wanted to confirm. Almost to the point of accusing him of doing so...
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09-28-2020, 01:48 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bend
Posts: 3,041
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
With kids look at bunk beds. And yes if they bring friends bring a tent or two. The bigger the slide area the more room. Go for a big slide.
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09-28-2020, 02:53 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tigard
Posts: 2,368
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
Dont forget to add a hitch on the camp trailer so you can bring the boat along too! Also, dont try backing the boat down the ramp when configured that way.
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09-28-2020, 03:47 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Arch Cape!
Posts: 9,276
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
That ain't legal in this state...
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09-28-2020, 03:51 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Linn
Posts: 1,383
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by Amahnee
That ain't legal in this state...
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I thought you just needed a CDL?
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09-28-2020, 04:00 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tigard
Posts: 2,368
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by Amahnee
That ain't legal in this state...
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Is it legal to replace the wheels/tires with rail wheels and use existing train tracks?
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09-29-2020, 08:00 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Newberg, OR
Posts: 1,430
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by duckslayer
Will be using it summer time camping at campgrounds with the wife and kids and hunting during November. Mainly just concerned with things (or brands to avoid). Good info on the length recommdations for being able to get into campground spots. Needs to sleep 4 and possibly 6 if the girls each brought a friend.
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For hunting, make sure it is well insulated. Arctic Package, 4 Season package and the like. Those sometimes come with dual pain windows, which is good.
Did not have good luck with Keystone, it did not do well in off grid rougher roads camping. Have had great luck with the current Nash, much better build quality and holds up to our camping style. The Nash does really well in cold temps.
Our next trailer will be an Outdoors RV toy hauler, maybe a Genesis.
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09-29-2020, 05:54 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Arch Cape!
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by jlg
I thought you just needed a CDL?
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Don't think so? It's legal in other states, just not here. Funny that a truck driver needs a CDL, but any 90 year old guy in a 40' diesel pusher can fly down the road with the same class C drivers license we all have. 😏
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09-29-2020, 07:48 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Linn
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by Amahnee
Don't think so? It's legal in other states, just not here. Funny that a truck driver needs a CDL, but any 90 year old guy in a 40' diesel pusher can fly down the road with the same class C drivers license we all have. 
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Exain how it's different than doubles on the freeway from the trucking company? There is no question that it only requires the correct license.
You example of motor homes isn't relavent to the original question of doubles consistenting of a trailer and a second trailer behind it.
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09-29-2020, 08:09 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 707
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
"818.110 Exceeding maximum number of vehicles in combination; civil liability; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of exceeding the maximum number of vehicles in combination if the person does any of the following: (a) Drives or moves on a highway any combination of vehicles that consists of more than two vehicles."
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(8) A truck tractor and semitrailer drawing one trailer or a truck tractor and semitrailer drawing one additional semitrailer mounted on a dolly equipped with a fifth wheel hitch may be operated on a highway without violation of the limits under ORS 818.110."
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10-03-2020, 01:15 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Scotts Mills
Posts: 1,711
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
To tow double, or triple trailers in the state of Oregon, the tow vehicle must have a t plate f plate or a puck plate. The driver must have a commercial license, with a doubles/triple endorsement, and current medical. You are allowed to have ONE trailer with a ball hitch. Any further trailers must have either a 5th wheel hitch or a pintle hitch. 
And you are not allowed to tow double with any vehicle that has an RV plate.
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10-03-2020, 08:55 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
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Re: Camp trailer recommdations or avoids
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Originally Posted by dirtman
Dont forget to add a hitch on the camp trailer so you can bring the boat along too! Also, dont try backing the boat down the ramp when configured that way.
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I think I could do it. ;-) I’m going get me an RV and try this next August on open B-10 day at Hammond. lol.
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10-05-2020, 02:46 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Leaburg, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtman
Dont forget to add a hitch on the camp trailer so you can bring the boat along too! Also, dont try backing the boat down the ramp when configured that way.
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I think I could do it. 😉 I’️m going get me an RV and try this next August on open B-10 day at Hammond. lol.
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