What wrong with this deer?

Duckenfuss · 12-05-2005, 02:59 PM

My first experiment with a picture so I hope it works.

My brother harvested this buck in the (I apologize for the man boobs)and it had a few unique things about it. First, it was still in velvet, had a big crook on it nose, no testicles, and an awfully knarly forehead. Not to mention that I got about 25 feet from the thing with wind at my back and I saw him first. Lets just say he was not that wise ole' buck.

Is this just a flawed mulie or does this happen more often than I know?

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traks44 · 12-05-2005, 03:03 PM

Cactus buck

Extremely rare, I would go out on a limb and say their are maybe only a dozen or so shot in the US every year.

TonTo · 12-05-2005, 03:14 PM

Yeah Cactus buck,I hear that happens when it has had an injury to it's testicles,lack of testosterone will make it stay in velvet.Did the antlers feel light to you,almost hollow?

Duckenfuss · 12-05-2005, 03:21 PM

yeah, light and flexible. The body was enormous too.

stoneflyguy · 12-05-2005, 03:39 PM

What a weird deer. I would think one could find this thing near the Hanford Dump Site. I have neaver heard of a Cactus Buck but I don't think I would pass on him. Nice rack, the deer I mean.

Duckenfuss · 12-05-2005, 03:40 PM

ha, ha. I'm tellin' my bro that one.

Yeah, I have never heard of a cactus buck either.

TonTo · 12-05-2005, 03:55 PM

I don't know where the term Cactus Buck comes from ,but it refers to a buck that has lost it's testicles,without the testosterone to harden the antlers and shed the velvet,they tend to stay in velvet and keep their antlers.They can put on some very odd looking antlers,sometimes the antlers stay short though and just put on lots of little points looking like a skull cap.Alot of times when you hear of does with antlers they grow in the same configuration as well.

No Luck · 12-05-2005, 04:04 PM

Duckenfuss

Hell Dude the man boobs sounds like the least of his problems crooked nose no testicles, knarly forehead hey that�s no way to talk about your brother you should be ashamed of yourself!! Come on give the guy a break� What�s a guy to do?? Oh you left out the receding hairline and a potbelly.

Rank Amateur · 12-05-2005, 04:27 PM

Your brother is going to kill you!!!

Yep, no nuts, weird horns, big body!

Flying Roast Beef · 12-05-2005, 04:35 PM

I shot a very nice four point at lookout mountain about ten years ago that was similar. It had no testicals. Just a little nub of a [petunias!]. The plumbing inside was correct for a buck so it was not a doe. It was however a very dumb and very young deer. We spotted it from a landing off of a road and I ran around to the back side of the hill it and two does were feeding on. I snuck up the back side and jumped them. He ran about twenty yards and stopped. Dumb move...I dumped him right there. We did pull a very old broadhead out of his neck. It had been there a long time as it was covered in grissle. I don't think that caused the abnormalty though as from what we found inside I think "they" just never dropped.

aosteelheader · 12-05-2005, 04:39 PM

I killed a buck like that a few years ago in the Beattys Butte unit. He was a 25" 2x3 with tall eye guards and gnarly bases. He had no nuts, was still in the velvet and summer coat and real poor. I doubt he would have lived through the winter. He also ate like leather, man was I ever glad to see the last package of that buck come out of the freezer.

FishinTechnician · 12-05-2005, 05:13 PM

I saw one (with larger horns) in the back of a truck at a game check roadblock over near Prineville. When I asked the game checker why the buck was still in velvet he said the buck had been castrated. He went on to explain that ranch hands rope small fawns and castrate the bucks to purposely promote large horn growth. At least that's what I was told.

Limbhanger · 12-05-2005, 05:28 PM

Thank god there is a picture, that description sounds like a cross dresser I saw on Cops!!

With all of those attractive features its no wonder he let you get 25ft. It was suicide.

thehunt · 12-05-2005, 07:18 PM

I think I'll be more careful when jumping over fences, NO TESTIES!!! OUCH!!!!

Silverback · 12-05-2005, 07:48 PM

From what I understand once and a great while does will grow antlers. The horns are usaully all jacked up. I am sure some time at the library or some research on the net should yeild the answer. But I seriously doubt a buck just looses he testicles without a trace. If he lost them due to injury it would be obvious that he had a set at one time due to scarring etc..

Yeti · 12-05-2005, 08:21 PM

One of our hunting party shot a doe durring the Fort Rock hunt three years ago. It had a great big fork rack still in velvet. Did yours have the right equipment or was it a doe?

earlybird007 · 12-06-2005, 06:23 AM

I have heard of some ranchers that will catch a fawn and put a rubber band around their nuts and they will fall off. Then the deer will never go into rut and will never lose the velvet.
Then they put all their energy into growing and get real fat and sometimes huge bodys.

Duckenfuss · 12-06-2005, 08:07 AM

This deer was not a doe. It was only missing the testicles.

earlybird007 · 12-06-2005, 08:25 AM

A rancher ate em'....LOL

RoscoeP · 12-06-2005, 02:37 PM

This is really crackin' me up!

Heck, if I had all those problems, I would want to die too!!

Cool buck though...

baltz526 · 12-06-2005, 06:47 PM

cut the gonads off any buck and the horns will not lose the velvet, and continue to grow all year long. frostbite will kill these deer.

gottafish · 12-07-2005, 03:55 AM

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cut the gonads off any buck and the horns will not lose the velvet, and continue to grow all year long. frostbite will kill these deer.

I find that hard to believe. My cousin shot a doe with a 4x3 rack. In Michigan. It gets -20 there -50 wind chill and she was 3 to 4 years old. Just sayin

baltz526 · 12-07-2005, 05:27 AM

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cut the gonads off any buck and the horns will not lose the velvet, and continue to grow all year long. frostbite will kill these deer.

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I find that hard to believe. My cousin shot a doe with a 4x3 rack. In Michigan. It gets -20 there -50 wind chill and she was 3 to 4 years old. Just sayin

your right some live for years growing more antler all the time till it kills them. but most of these deer get stressed every winter, and have health issues, imagine having your hand, waving around above your head, out side in michigan all winter, with a light glove on it. how healthy would you be, compared to a guy waring heavy gloves with his hands in his pockets.