High Performance .270 Round...

[The Overfishin Condition]

Hello all. I shoot a Remington Model 760 .270 Win, and I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions on a good round for it. I guess I'm looking for something a little higher performance than your standard Remington .270 Win 150 Gr. Express Core-lokt. I'm sure this would do the trick on an animal, although it hasn't really gotten a chance to thus far. However, in this offseason I'm going to work on shooting a lot. And although I may use cheaper rounds just to practice shooting offhand I'd like to have it sighted in come next season with a high quality round. Any help would be greatly appreciated, otherwise I'll flip through cabela's and pick a nice looking expensive one. BTW I hunt deer and elk, but will probably use it for deer only as I ML elk.

Thanks,
TOC

[ 12-01-2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: The Overfishin Condition ]

[Rauly]

TOC get a hold of Get Bit and Row for Fish. Row for Fois has a great 270 load that he and Get Bit use. Wish I had more for you than that.

Rauly

[BigFishFever]

TOC, are you looking to reload your own rounds? I have recently started reloading, but cant seem to go through the -06 rounds enough to keep reloading.

Do you shoot locally here in the Couv? I have been searching for somewhere to shoot, and can only find the organized ranges (wont go into detail here)

If your interested maybe we could work something out if you need some rounds made up...drop a message if your at all interested!

130gr .270 bullets work better for deer. I don't shoot factory ammo so I can't help with a brand to buy.

[StickFish]

The first question to ask is how well does the ammo you've been shooting perform in that rifle?

If it isn't shooting well from a solid rest (less than 2"), than you should perhaps look for something else.

Keta mentioned using lighter bullets for Deer and he raises a good point - what is your intended game? Deer lighter bullets, Elk - heavier that type of thing.

The 270 is a popular round and there are lots of quality factory loads out there from every manufacturer. Personally I only choose controlled expansion bullets whether I hand load them or buy factory ammo. Those include the Nosler Partition, Trophy Bond Bear Claw, Swift Scriocco and A-Frame. I have not tried the new Hornady or Nosler bonded plastic tipped bullets, but they probably perform well. There are other controlled expansion bullets, but I have not had good luck with them (ie, Failsafe, Barnes, Speer Grand Slam).

Federal Loads the Partitions and Bear Claws, Remington uses the Swifts in their Premium lines. Try these in different bullet weights and see which your rifle will shoot well.

I personally think it is more important to choose the bullet and load combination that shoots well versus being particular about a certain bullet weight. You will never find a dead deer that could tell you the difference, and performance at reasonable hunting distances will be unnoticable as well.

Good luck

[Artwo]

If factory loads are what you are interested in, go to Remington's web site. There you can review all the different loads for your particular caliber that they offer. I did this for my 06 and have found a very good fit for my rifle in both accuracy and knockdown power.

[ 12-02-2003, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Artwo ]

[Cast'n'Blast]

I have been impressed with the federal premium 150 gr. nosler partition and the 140 gr. bear claws. both have grouped well with my .270

[Grantspastor]

I have improved my .270's performance with hand loads. But isn't the Remington 760 an autoloader? If it is you might have feeding and extracting problems with hotter loads than factory.

[ICHTHYDEMON]

The 760 is a pump.

[ICHTHYDEMON]

If you don't reload,get some 130gr. Nosler Ballistic tips. Winchester loads them in their supreme line,Federal in their premium line. Remington used to load them,but I think they got replaced by Accubonds and Sciroccos.

They are some of the most accurate bullets on the market,and retain down range energy very well. Some guys say they will blow up on close shots,but I think thats BS. I've shot deer from 75-300+ yds,and thay have performed very well EVERY time. For Elk I'd choose a tougher bullet,but for Deer they are a perfect bullet.

[snit]

This year and last, I've shot 5 deer and an elk (spike) with the Federal Premium 140gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaws in .270. Never more than one body hit needed, but like most bullets it's where you hit them. The bullets don't group as well as I want, a little less than 2" @ 100yds, but they performed excellent. I've been shooting the 140gr. Failsafe, and my BAR just loves them (3 shot group covered by a quarter), but I've yet to kill a deer/elk with them. Buy a box of all the good ones in 140 gr. and go to the range.

[Gun Rod Bow]

The very first thing you need to do is settgle on ONE bullet weight. Twist and length of barrel effect what weight bullet your gun likes.

Second, the ballistic tip is accurate, but really tears up meat.

I used a 130 grain, Nozzler Partition at about 3,000 fps. The partition has a fairly heavy wall that didn't tear up deer, antelope so bad. I saw about 25 elk killed with that same load, the partion would go through 'em on a quartering shot and break down a shoulder on the off side.

A spitzer, boat tail, ballistic tip etc. blows appart pretty quick on those fast bullets and won't break down bone on the off side.

Good luck

[James in Idaho]

Here's another vote for the 130 grain partition. I load mine to about 2900 (pretty mild in a .270) fps. Shot everything from jackrabbits to moose with the 130 grain load. My rifle is not all that picky, shoots all the 130 well and I don't have to fiddle too much with it. Sight it in with 130 Sierra's, check with a Partition, I've been good to go with it since about 1978.

The Nozzler Partition is a well built bullet and they kill good but I'd rather use something that doesn't shed so much weight when it is doing what it was designed to do. The Swift A Frame will do what a Partition does and still retain most of its weight. I've seen Nozzler Balistic tips come apart and will never use them.

I didn't know anyone sold 140gr .270 factory rounds. I load 140's for my .270 and they shoot well, but my rifle will shoot 130gr and 150gr good too. Some .270's I've played with were more bullets weight sensitive.

PS:
I still think that a .270 Win is too light for most elk hunting but it should kill moose well. I used a .300 Win with 180gr or 200gr bullets for moose but moose die much easier than elk.

[ 12-02-2003, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[Small Fry]

I have the same 270 model 760 as you have. I love this gun. [img]graemlins/hearton.gif[/img] I shoot Remington core lock 150 grain for both deer and elk. I have to agree with GRB. Settle on ONE bullet weight. I have shot the ballistic tip loads in the past and as mentioned they chew up a lot of meat. I have killed at least a dozen elk and even more deer with the bullet mention above and have no plans in changing. One of the shoots I made was over 400 + yards and the cow went down with one shoot. You said you were going to practice with a cheaper load. DON'T, Practice with the load your going to hunt with , That way you know what the bullet is going to do consistently.

And if nothing else Practice, Practice, Practice
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[The Overfishin Condition]

Wow thanks for all the help. I have access to a friends reloading setup and all his literature about it as well. Something that I may consider doing in the future, but probably not in this offseason. For the last five years I've shot the same round, same weight etc, but I just know there are better rounds out there. This gun shoots tight clusters, as in sub 2" groups at 100 yards and that's with my shaky hand. I understand the concept of practicing with what you'll use in the field. On the other hand, I need a lot of practice, and if I'm going to shoot once a couple times a month then up to a couple times a week towards summer and fall, I just can't afford to be going through rounds that are $20+ a box. As the season gets closer I'll stick to the rounds I'm going to use, but early on it's just going to be about getting super confortable with shooting off hand- technique, stance, etc. So it looks like the majority vote for deer goes to 130 gr, either partition, swift, or nosler. I'll try them all. Another question. How important do you hardcore shooters feel it is to shoot with your dominant eye. My dominant eye is my left eye, and the 760 is pretty easy to switch the safety and have it be essentially left handed. Something I think I should do, so I can shoot both eyes open. Good idea?

BigFishFever- I usually head out of town to shoot in a couple different places out of washougal, drive time is a half hour or so, but it's free. PM me if you want some ideas.

Do what is comfortable and do it the same all of the time.

[Get Bit]

Give the 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip a try with 57.0 grains of IMR 4831. One smokin load in my model 700!

[blacktail]

For deer, you don't need a "premium" bullet unless you are pushing ultramag velocities.

The hottest factory load you will find is the Hornady Light Magnum which utilizes one of their 140 brain bullets. These aren't cheap, but none of the other high end factory loads are.

I personally use 130 grain Ballistic Tip handloads in my .270 for deer and they work great. However, I would not use these for Elk as they aren't stout enough.

Mike

[Damien]

The mighty .270. I only use factory 150 grain Cor-Lok remington load. I've taken multipe deer and one coast elk and havn't been disappointed. Most of the time it is just my shooting that can get in the way. I have recovered a few of my bullets and they have about 80 weight retention and mushroomed out just right nice. Good enough for me.!

[Grip It-N-Rip It]

YOu don't give enough information as to swhat you want. I have a Ruger 270 with the zytel stock and love it.
Do you want expansion or do you want a bullet that sticks together? Do you want factory or are you going to reload? So many factors to consider.
Personally I reload and I use Barnes X-Bullets and let me tell you they stick together. You'll punch whole clean through most deer with them. I was using the 150 gr and they shot well for me. I was getting half inch groups or better out of my gun, but I weigh every powder charge and do alot of extra things to my gun also. {Trigger jobs are so important in getting good groups} Any way that is another topic.
If your looking for factory I have tried the combined technology bullet by both Nosler and Winchester and it worked great. Got good groups with it also I was using the 130 gr in that. Basically it is a ballistic tip with winchesters coating on it. Just plain ballistic tips are good also and then there is the Hornady SST they are suppose to be good but I have know personal experience with them only hearsay.
Hope this helps.

[The Overfishin Condition]

Grip-it, factory loads are what I'm looking for. I guess I don't know if I want something that expands or sticks together, that's sorta what I'm asking for I guess. Now I have questions about adjusting the trigger, or replacing it, but that's something I'll research on my own then ask questions if I need something cleared up. Thanks all.

[billc_sbio]

The Rem 740 (automatic) and 760 (pump) were originally designed pretty much as "Woods Rifles" with fast follow-up shots in mind etc.

As far as "getting your trigger tuned up", you might not get too far with that as the mechanism isn't much different than what's found on Remington's shotguns...nothing like the sweet, ajustable triggers they put on their Model 700s.

As far as bullets/loads go, as long as you can keep your shots in the "vitals" chest area and away from the meat, the 130g Nosler Ballistic Tip is a devastating killer and very accurate due to its contruction. It's fine for Deer and Antelope but too fragile for Elk. It can also mess up your meat pretty badly if your shot drifts off into serious muscle tissue.

These are 1-shot kills with 130g bullets in .270 rifles.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...9723mkwmnEoeoc

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...8782SKeDOWCBnf

And this one is a 1 shot kill with a 100g Ballistic Tip from a .25-06...somewhat similar

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...48536126ZslZNe

Try using a heavier walled bullet for Elk like Nosler Partitions or Trophy Bonded Bear Claws, Swift A-Frames etc. The heavier walled bullets may not be quite as accurate and with these you might want to tryout various weight bullets to see what you rifle likes best.

Good luck.

[Grantspastor]

Concerning shooting with your dominant eye (I'm an Optician) I'd say if you are shooting 2" groups cross-dominant, why fix it? It doesn't sound broken. You could try shooting left handed, but unless you practice-practice-practice...I think in hunting sitations it could foul you up.

[Claybear]

Federal Premium 140gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. My wife and I really like these. One 4x5 Bull Elk and 4 really nice Bucks. :grin: