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10-06-2005, 04:51 PM
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Chromer
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What animal do you think this is
Length 3.5"
Height 2"
Width 2.5"
Fangs are 7/16 tall and 5/8" apart [image]  [/image]
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I found this about 15 miles west of Mcminnville. thanks for links to Skeleton ID I will check them out.
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10-06-2005, 05:00 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Bear
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10-06-2005, 05:06 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Definately not a bear...the bones above the eye socket don't come out that far in a bear...plus...3.5 inches in length.
Jon
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10-06-2005, 05:08 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: What animal do you think this is
from the size stated and the mature size of teeth I would have to guess bobcat or maybe a big racoon?
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10-06-2005, 05:09 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Here is what I have ruled out...
Bear
Fox
Coyote or any other dog
Coon
It would help me if you showed some closer up shots, one of the jaw so I could see the dental formula (how many incisors, molar, premolar etc), and one of a direct side angle...and I appreciate the size measurements on the skull.
So far my guess is a BOBCAT!!!.
I will keep going through my skull collection to narrow down the field.
Jon
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10-06-2005, 05:11 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
badger, maybe. where did you find it
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10-06-2005, 05:14 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Ok...the jaw you are showing is the upper jaw...I know this because of the nose hole.
Is it possible that this is two different skulls? If you are sure they are from the same animal you should be able to fit them together a bit better than shown in the pic.
Jon
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10-06-2005, 05:32 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
It is a cat, probably a bobcat.
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10-06-2005, 05:48 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
it looks to long to be a cat, very large eye sockets.
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10-06-2005, 05:49 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
I agree with Brian.
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10-06-2005, 05:51 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
i'm leaning toward seal, because of the upper teeth, they look to me, to be made to grab and hold fish.
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10-06-2005, 05:56 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Quote:
it looks to long to be a cat, very large eye sockets.
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It is characteristic of cats to have proportionally large eye sockets.
I measured a bobcat skull in my collection.
Height 2.25 in
Length 3.75 inches
Width 2.5 inches
Seems to be pretty close. After futher investigation, I am 95% sure it is the near complete upper jaw of a bobcat. The clincher..to make it 99.9 would be a picture of the two pieces place together correctly!
Jon
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10-06-2005, 06:04 PM
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Bobcat
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10-06-2005, 06:34 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Otter!
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10-06-2005, 07:56 PM
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Chromer
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Re: What animal do you think this is
A very large Mouse !!!
Actually, I also agree with the bobcat. We found one a couple of years back that looked closed to that. My nephew has it now so I couldn't look to be sure.
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10-06-2005, 08:16 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: What animal do you think this is
It is a bobcat...the temporal ridges are a dead give away!
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10-06-2005, 08:23 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: What animal do you think this is
The ramains of a devorced spouse (hit by a communist city bus) going after a dead-beat dad at the county court house 
My guess is a cat (lynx); looks like the one I found on my land
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10-06-2005, 08:34 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Seal skulls look quite a bit like dog skulls but much larger. Think of a 800 lb water dog :0 Cats have those proportionally large canine teeth and large eyes. The skull is also delicate, a seal or other marine creature would have thick, robust bone.
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10-06-2005, 09:27 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: What animal do you think this is
werewolf from london aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooo
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10-06-2005, 09:42 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
i'm just stuck on the teeth, it's like it has multipal upper canines,
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10-06-2005, 09:47 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Ex-wife.......
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10-07-2005, 04:35 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
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10-07-2005, 05:02 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
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10-07-2005, 05:21 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
after looking at hundreds of skulls, the ringtail cat is my final guess.
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10-07-2005, 07:14 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Looks like that creature Arnold Schwartsenkoph nailed in the movie 'Predator'.
nice job on preparing it's skull.
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10-07-2005, 08:21 AM
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Re: What animal do you think this is
ITS A LIGER!!!!!!
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10-07-2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: What animal do you think this is
oh thats freaky...i just watched predator last night for the first time....that animal is creapy!!!
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10-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Chromer
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Re: What animal do you think this is
I found a scull like that one around heron lakes golf course years ago. My memory was a little couldy that night but I think we concluded it was a bobcat.
Cool find.
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10-08-2005, 08:20 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: What animal do you think this is
El Chupacabra!!!
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10-08-2005, 02:44 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: What animal do you think this is
$5 says it's a Bobcat. 
Eric
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10-08-2005, 02:58 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Dammit! You stole my answer!  :grin:
CHUPA!
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10-08-2005, 08:14 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
Looks like an opossum to me. By the looks of the eye sockets it is a night creature.
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10-08-2005, 08:57 PM
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Fry
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Re: What animal do you think this is
B I G F O O T 
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10-08-2005, 09:44 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
I'm thinking you may be right, possums have some nasty looking teeth. Who has the skull to match it with?
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10-08-2005, 11:22 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
It's not a possum...they have very small brain cases.
-blake
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10-09-2005, 05:38 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
It could have been a fluke. some people have large brain cases too. I am sticking with it being a possum.
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10-09-2005, 05:42 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: What animal do you think this is
After looking more at the pics, it looks like you have 2 upper jaws there. Try flipping the smaller piece over and setting it beside the other. I say this because the back molars are back into the skulls eye socket area. what animal has teeth in their eyes. :whazzup:
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10-09-2005, 09:45 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
That animal is a feral cat. Both of your pieces come from the the upper part of the skull.
Short rotstrum, large occipital cavity and a dentition pattern on the top = felid. The skull is less than 100 mm (4") long so that suggests it is a feral cat. However, what really seals the deal is the tiny peg like tooth between the canine and the 1st cheek tooth. Bobcats don't have them.
No doubt about it, that animal is a FERAL CAT.
PM me and I'll let you know where to send those $5 Acuta.
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10-09-2005, 10:13 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: What animal do you think this is
-blake
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