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Old 10-04-2005, 07:23 PM   #1
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Default Boats? Safety Equipment? Ocean conditions?

If a person carefully considers each one of these Coast Guard "Press Releases" he will be able to come to conclusions regarding boats, safety equipment and ocean conditions. Please consider all the CG comments also.

These "Press Releases" cover the capsizes, rescues, etc. from today to March 12, 2004 for Oregon and Washington coasts only.

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/83432/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/83158/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/81578/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/80322/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/79817/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/79481/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/79022/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/79020/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/76228/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/72171/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/70492/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/70424/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/69480/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/69002/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/69171/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/68923/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/68659/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/67814/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/67009/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/66773/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/67122/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/66255/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/65470/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/65023/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/62483/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/61361/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/60413/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/60210/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/55485/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/51071/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/50100/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/44453/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/44442/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/44335/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/43765/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/43658/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/43330/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/41715/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/41513/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/40944/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/40580/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/40538/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/40531/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/38720/

http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/34124/

Important = http://www.uscgaux.org/~floatplan/

YOUR CONCLUSIONS WOULD BE WELCOMED, I'M SURE!
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: Boats? Safety Equipment? Ocean conditions?

That is a lot to read and a lot to think about when you have read it all. There is a lesson to learn in each one. A lot of the things we preach are reflected.
Thank God for the Coast Guard. Makes me proud to have been a part of the Coast Guard Appreciation day in Newport and I look forward to participating at Depoe Bay next season.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:17 AM   #3
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Default Re: Boats? Safety Equipment? Ocean conditions?

Holy Moly that was a lot to read but well worth it. Thanks for taking the time to link them all.

O.k., here's a few, actually a ton, of bullet points that I got from all of the bulletins:

<ul type="square">[*] Please realize that rescue is not immediate. It can take a lot of time before help can arrive so we have to make sure we are prepared for the long wait. The farther out you are, the longer it will take and the more prepared you will need to be. For those who venture out for tuna, keep in mind if you're 60 miles out, the soonest you could expect an actual CG ship is probably 2-3 hours in good seas. Here are some examples.

“Coast Guard Station Depot Bay, Ore., launched a rescue boat at 7:12 p.m. and arrived on-scene at 8:36 p.m.”

“a call for help on VHF Channel 16 at 8:45 a.m.” “An HH-60 Jayhawk helicopter from Air Station Astoria and two 47-foot motor lifeboats from Coast Guard Station Cape Disappointment, in Ilwaco, Wash., were launched at about 9:15 a.m., to assist.”

“At 12:18 a.m., Coast Guard Group Air/ Station Astoria, Ore., received a call on VHF-FM channel 16” “The 47-foot motor lifeboat arrived at 1 a.m., to find the Laura E had capsized and the master was hanging onto the hull”

“contacted the Coast Guard on VHF channel 16 at 8 p.m. to report his vessel was disabled and taking on water. At 12:30 a.m. the Dolphin located the vessel in six-foot seas.”
[*] Don't fish alone -- Please read this bulletin: http://www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/68923/
[*]" Wearing a lifejacket, like wearing a seatbelt must be done before an accident occurs to be effective ."

Here are some examples:

• “Four people owe their survival to lifejackets after their boat capsized Friday sending them into the ocean for 45-minutes. At 11:25 a.m., a call was received by Coast Guard Station Tillamook Bay that one person had drifted ashore in a lifejacket from a capsized boat. The person indicated there were three other people still missing.
A Coast Guard 47-foot motor lifeboat from Station Tillamook Bay, Ore., was diverted and rescued the 54-year old master of the vessel from the surf. He had been in the water for 45-minutes and was showing symptoms of hypothermia.
The Tillamook County Sheriff's Department also responded and found the two remaining boaters safely on the beach”

• "The prepared master entered the 57-degree water in his survival suit, with a lifering and strobe light while the helicopter provided cover as he climbed onboard the motor lifeboat"
[*] Bad things happen very quickly.


• “a distress call on VHF Channel 16 at 12:18 p.m. from the operator of the Joyce Marie. Fourteen minutes later, the Coast Guard recieved a distress signal from an emergency positioning radio beacon attached to the liferaft” “The Coast Guard helicopter hoisted the men at 12:48 p.m. and transported them safely to shore.”
• “Coast Guard Station Depoe Bay responded to the 28-foot boat Amigo that sunk at its moorage. Despite Coast Guard crewmembers attempts to dewater the vessel, the Amigo sunk within 30 minutes ”------Now imagine if this happened while out tuna fishing 40 miles offshore.
• “At 11:45 p.m., a crewmember from the fishing vessel Scotty radioed the Coast Guard in North Bend notifying them that they were quickly taking on water. Communications were lost as the three men abandoned the quickly sinking vessel. The Dolphin located the three men in the water near the vessels life raft. Daniel and Robert Speer, ages 39 and 42, were wearing survival suits. The master of the vessel, 64-year old Robert Thompson, was unable to get into his suit before the vessel sank but was using it to stay afloat”

• “Station Cape Disappointment immediately launched a 23-foot utility boat and a 47-foot motor lifeboat which arrived minutes later and found an unconscious and unresponsive man under the boat” ------ Not only does this show how fast something can happen but also how important it was for him to have a lifejacket on when the accident occurred. The man did survive.

• “At about 9 a.m. the vessel contacted the Coast Guard to report they were disabled and drifting toward the surf zone. – the boat capsized five minutes before the CG arrived and still one man died .”
[*] Here's an example of someone who was perfectly prepared for a bad situation:
www.d13publicaffairs.com/go/doc/21/51071/
[*] And here's and example of the exact opposite:

• A safety inspection of the vessel resulted in several violations, which could have resulted in loss of life. The ship's high water alarm, which alerts the crew of flooding, was inoperable. The vessel's Electronic Position Indicating Radio Beacon was also inoperable. The vessel's life raft and emergency flares were also expired.
[*] Anybody think these conditions sound familiar? Redundancy of all safety equipment is a good thing whenever possible.

• Prior to the boat capsizing the onboard global positioning system failed and the boaters became disoriented and lost in the dense fog. While trying to find the south entrance to the bay, the craft was turned directly into the beach surf, which capsized the boat. No distress call was received ptior to the boat capsizing. Weather conditions at the time of the accident were light winds, dense fog with visibility of less than 50-feet, water temperature of about 55-degrees, and surf between 6-to-8-feet.
[*] Follow your float plan. These guys ran out of gas and weren't recovered until late that evening. They were in a 15ft. zodiac. Both suffered from hypothermia and neither even touched the water.

• The two men had been underway fishing for tuna since 5 a.m., and had only planned to be out for a few hours.[/list]
You can never be too safe out there. Just try to be as safe as possible.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:37 AM   #4
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Default Re: Boats? Safety Equipment? Ocean conditions?

Ditch bag with waterproof VHF,, a must .
I want an EPRIB. !!!
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:13 PM   #5
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Default Re: Boats? Safety Equipment? Ocean conditions?

I would hate to be a statistic.

I wonder what the percent is of successful ocean trips to Coast Guard assisted ocean trips are?
:smile: divided by = ?%

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Old 10-05-2005, 05:35 PM   #6
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Thanks for taking the time to link all that. I spent a lot of time reading and came up with some thoughts but it looks like Rod beat me to the punch. Good summary Rod. I hope all who ask if their craft is capable of the big blue take the time to read these links, they are sobering to say the least!
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:37 PM   #7
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Bump..
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:00 PM   #8
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Wow,

Thanks for taking the time to link all these stories to this thread.

The Coasties really go the extra mile to rescue us. We owe it to those folks!
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:04 PM   #9
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Rod &amp; Spoon

super effort - thanks reason why I play on ifish!

as an add, be VERY cautious when assisting another vessel in a bad situation. My bud ended on rocks in VERY remote spot on WCVI when boat he was attempting to rescue threw line into his props. His 25' Alu boat ended up on the rocks in heavy surf. The other guy stayed on his hook just shy. Only a rising tide got the would-be rescuer off - and with UGLY damage but no hull breach.

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