Coyotes?

Rusty · 12-06-2002, 02:58 PM

I am planning to hunt coyotes in the Dufur/Deschutes area on Monday afternoon/evening and Tuesday AM.

I am curious if anyone has hunted this area recently and how did you do. I saw a few while Deer hunting this Fall, but haven't been back since early October. I have access to 30,000 areas of private property on the breaks of the Deschutes. Any reports for that area would be greatly appreciated.

Rusty

MarlinMark · 12-06-2002, 03:56 PM

If you set up right and stay for at least 35 minutes per stand you should do great. Have fun and let us know how you did.

Mark

crabbait · 12-07-2002, 08:43 AM

Hmmmm............not the best area, but it will Dufur now! :grin:

Sometimes I can't help myself.

Rusty · 12-07-2002, 05:55 PM

Crabbait,

Ouch, that was sooo bad it hurt!!

Rusty

skein · 12-07-2002, 06:20 PM

Good luck and have fun. Coyotes are a real challenge and hunting them is one of my favorite sports. With that much land to hunt you should have a good time, especially if they're not all wised up from being called a lot. Let us know how you do.

Skein

Norski · 12-07-2002, 09:54 PM

Hay I saw one the other day in the parking lot at St.Charles parking lot going after a rabbit, at leased if he got hurt he could of walked into the emergency room.
Thats St.Charles in Bend Or. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

spinnermaker · 12-07-2002, 11:00 PM

I live in Oregon city and I here them in my back field all the time at night.
Where's the best place right know to hunt them. I have went after them in eastern oregon a few times but it has been a while.

Rusty · 12-08-2002, 07:55 AM

Spinnermaker,

I am told by the "experts" that Central Oregon is better for 'yotes than most of Eastern Oregon because so many people hunt them in E. OR that they are very wise to a call. In Central OR, most of the land is private and therefore is not hunted nearly as much.

I will let you know how I do once I return on Tuesday evening.

Rusty

elkaholic · 12-08-2002, 08:06 PM

I'd go anywhere where there is good elevation change and visibility in 240 degrees around. I've found wind direction and being quiet and unseen when "getting set" to be the best way to get them. A 30 to 50% of the calling spots should get you a look. Use a howler from now until April and it will help locate prior to setting up. ( they are entering breeding season soon) I grew up in N. Eastern Or. and it is easier now than it was when fur was high. Good luck.

Also Harney County is great in the spring.

KingFisher85 · 12-08-2002, 08:35 PM

Would someone like to show someone like my self how to coyote hunt over my way in the BG unit.
Hunt day or night time, does not care to me.
I have an ITT model 250 night vision binocular, 3 spotlights a nice pair of binoculars. I can get my hands on a caller with some tapes, don't know what types of tapes. If theirs something that works for you grab it.
If you need ammo for a 12 GA for coyote hunting I have lots of 4 buck that I can sell. It comes in 25 rounds boxes of Winchester ammo for 8 or 10 dollars a box. I also have 22 mag ammo to.

I would like to get into coyote hunting but don't know how to go about it. Like what I mean is how to set up and what to do.
If someone would like to show me, I have lots of privet land that I see coyotes on and a few nice clear cuts that have to have coyotes moving in and out.

Let me know.

spinnermaker · 12-08-2002, 09:33 PM

Rusty thanks I will look for your post. good luck!

skein · 12-09-2002, 07:20 AM

KF85,

You can't hunt 'yotes at night in Oregon, only bobcats (with a fur-taker's license) and racoons and nutria. Years ago you could, but it opened the door to poachers (snaggers with a gun) so they shut it down. Where's the BG unit?

I hunt both sides of the mountains, but haven't hunted the coast range much - just too thick. There is some good coyote hunting around Philomath and out in the Harlan area though, you just have to have permission and be careful which direction you shoot. I think a shotgun might be the ticket there, or one of those new rimfire .17's.

My real problem is that I'm developing such a respect for their craftiness and cunning that I find myself tipping my hat to them instead of shooting. And that's really not too cool, because all that does is educate them to be call-wise and leaves them to continue preying on grouse, quail, ducks, and fawns. I'm getting old and soft, I guess.

Skein

bait boy · 12-09-2002, 08:23 AM

KF 85's in washington thats probably why the area is unfamiliar. I don't recall hearing much in the way of howling in that area but I am sure there are some to be had in the larch mountain area.

Birdnest · 12-09-2002, 08:56 AM

Skein,

While the .17 is one of the funnest/fastest guns I have ever shot. I would be careful shooting a yote with the new rim fires. Yotes are tough as a damn boot and the chances of not achieving a clean kill are worth considering. If you are talking about a wooded area with closer well placed shots then you might not have a problem. Not trying to jump you here, sounds like we both share a healthy respect for Mr. Wylie.

Birdnest

KingFisher85 · 12-09-2002, 02:32 PM

Yes, I'm talking about over here in Washington State in Clark County in the upper end of the Battle Ground unit. Some of you may know where Merwin Lake is, well that's just up over the hill from my and my hunting grounds.
Night time hunting starts over here at the end of deer season. So, the first of the year I can hunt night time for coyotes and cats and coons.

I'm thinking about getting a 17 rem for my Thompson Contender with the 14 inch barrel for coyotes, but why when I have a Ruger mini 14 that I can use. I think that the ammo is to much for the 17 rem. Who knows.
Well, if someone still would like to show me how to put a few coyotes down let me know.
Thanks

willametteriveroutlaw · 12-09-2002, 03:00 PM

KF, I have killed them on the Woodland bottoms before and in some of the farm fields in the area. If you hunt at night, use a 12 guage and wait until you hear breathing, flip on the spotlight and start shootin.

lost_sailor · 12-09-2002, 03:07 PM

Do you eat coyotes?

KingFisher85 · 12-09-2002, 04:11 PM

No, I do not eat coyotes

I give the hides to a buddy of mine and use the meat for crab bait and eat the crabs. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

skein · 12-09-2002, 07:00 PM

Birdnest,

It's likely you're right about the .17's. I shot one and, yes, they're a hoot, but I haven't shot anything tougher than paper, so I don't know how they would perform. Coyotes *are* tough and nothing deserves to be sent off wounded. The 17 statement was just conjecture and ought not to be taken lightly.

I use my 22-250 and my wife uses her 6.5 Swede (Mod 70) which helps keep her tuned up for deer season. She absolutely loves it when I use my howler and get an answer. She's getting pretty good at picking out a stand, too. I sometimes think she has a better feel for it than I do. Nah...can't be. She's a girl. :grin:

Skein

Rusty · 12-10-2002, 07:02 PM

Spinnermaker,

Well I'm back from my much anticipated coyote hunt! As usual, I saw more deer than coyotes, including a "wallhanger" that took my breath away. (Best guess from 400 yds-
27-29" 4 x 5!)

But, I was successful, well at least a little bit successful. I was calling into a canyon that overlooks the Deschutes, and looking at Mr. Big. But no luck on 'ol Wiley. So after about 1/2 hour I slowly hiked back to the Suburban, trudging through about 1' of new snow and ice mix. As I got back to my vehicle, I happened to look North into another canyon that was windswept with a full measure of my scent. As I said to myself, "Self, there is no way a coyote would be downwind of me", out pops a big old "dog" not forty yards away. He was undoubtedly looking for the cause of all the commotion a few minutes earlier. What a setup. I calmly got down on one knee, and the rest, as they say, is academic. One poke from my new Ruger M77 Compact .223 and I had my first 'yote of the Winter.

Yes, it was cold, and yes, I enjoyed getting out once again. But I sure wish old Mr. Big was around during deer season. Oh well, there's always next year!

Rusty

MarlinMark · 12-10-2002, 07:10 PM

Hey that's cool.

Mark

elkaholic · 12-10-2002, 08:20 PM

Great!!!! Always good to get a little pay for the effort.

Anybody else use hollow points take dogs? I use a 52 grain hollow point boattail match and it is deadly in by bull barrell 22-250 up to 400 yards. I switched because I was sewing up holes and this goes in but seldom ever exits. They don't go anywhere either.

Straydog · 12-10-2002, 08:27 PM

Skein,

You may want to check out the new Win. 223 short mags that are coming out..... should be a killer coyote load with over 4,000 fps.

They are also making it in 243. I got to see the samples last week and they are something else!

30 cal casing necked down.

Gonna be hot!

skein · 12-10-2002, 09:11 PM

Actually I'm plenty happy with my 22-250. I just mentioned the .17's as a possibility for close range shooting.

I load the 50gr Nosler Ballistic Tips and run 'em about 3700fps. They are really accurate at that speed and I think my barrel will last a lot longer. I wonder what the barrel life will be in those short magnums at 4000+ fps. I used to shoot 40 grainers in my rifle, and hoooboy, I loaded them hot. I chronographed one load at 4200! But then I went off to Montana and got in an incredible prairie dog town and couldn't quit shooting. My barrel was way hotter than I ever wanted it. I actually had to walk away from it because I kept thinking "one more round." I decided then to back off on the loads a little and stretch the life of the gun out.

For coyotes, those little 50 grainers rarely exit either, but I've had a couple blow up on the surface and really open things up. Lots of variables at play there. I'm glad to see those short magnums in the smaller calibers though. They're pretty trick.

Skein

spinnermaker · 12-11-2002, 10:17 PM

Rusty glad you had some luck thanks for the info. I hope to make it over east this year after those dogs. I dou't now where though maybe around Heppner I now that place like the back of my hand. The town of Mounumont is where I hunted deer for years. The other place I hunt is the snake river but thats to far or maybe not :grin:

Troy