Broadheads

[6wapiti6]

I'm trying out some new broadheads. They are Rocket Aeroheads Ultimate Steel 100's. The best thing about them is that there is no tuning like other fixed blades! They just like my field points with no adjustments to my sights or rest. Has anyone else tried these? If not what are you using this year....

[Myles]

I've only been shooting a bow for a couple of years but as long as my bow is tuned it shoots broadheads the same as field tips. I'm trying Steelforce broadheads this year. Maybe they just look cool, but with a knife material main blade and a breakaway bleeder blade it looked like it would do the job and hold up.
Now if I can find some large four legged animal to shoot at I'd let you know how well it works

myles

[Bait O' Eggs]

I assume you are hunting in Washington???

I tried to take a look at the broadhead you describe at this webpage LINK but couldnt find the "ultimate Steel 100" Maybe I needed to look longer.

I dont think that broadhead is legal in Oregon. I read the regulations and it states

"Broadhead blades must be fixed, and at least 7/8 " wide (except for western gray squirrel). It is illegal to hunt with or possess mechanical or moveable blade broadheads when hunting game animals"

I am pretty sure this broadhead you are using would classify as a moveable blade broadhead. Maybe Washington regs are different.

I have used Thunderheads in the past mostly, but switched to Muzzys this year. Hope to see how they cut flesh, bone and tissue up close. :smile:

[Crayfin]

Those Rockets are an expandable head right? We're not allowed to use them in Oregon. Just got back from Nevada on a deer hunt and talked to a guide buddy down there that said his buddy whacked what was the new world record with a bow and lost it because of bad penetration. The Govenors tag holder shot it a couple of weeks later, 420 and some change. Anyway--I am not a big fan of those anyway especially when youre trying for an quartering shot. I dont know about the rest of the guys here, but I have not shot many bulls standing perfectly broadside. They do fly straight, but I would rather take the time and make sure everything was dialed in with a fixed blade broadhead. They do kill alot of stuff though--so go with what youre comfortable with. For the record I shoot Muzzy's--Alot of tip but you can sharpen those to a knife edge as well.

Those SteelForce broadheads are a fixed blade and they are a pretty awesome unit. Spendy, but I think they are built really well. My Buddy used them last year and they worked like a charm on the bull,bear and buck that he shot--Lucky $#@$!!

Todd

[ 08-14-2002, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: crayfin ]

[6wapiti6]

No the rockets are a fixed blade, they are not expandable. The only place I could find them is on the cabelas web site. They are not even on the rocket web site? Go figure. Everything I have heard about them is that they are legal in Oregon...If anyone else hears otherwise PLEASE let me know.... I just looked, and it has a 1 inch width.

[ 08-14-2002, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: 6wapiti6 ]

[Bait O' Eggs]

so sorry for assuming they were a folding blade broadhead. Every broadhead on their page was folding so I assumed this one was also.

I found it on Cabelas page and I like the 0.036 thickness solid blades for strength. I have never been a big fan of the 0.020 thick blades which have a lot of holes in them, as they look like they would just crumple on impact of something solid.

I would guess your broadhead would be harder to get to fly than a blade with a few holes in them as it looks like they will want to catch air and plane off.

I cant seem to get my field points to shoot the same as my broadheads. At 30 yards my broadheads are 3 inches high and 3 inches to the left. I just resighted in my bow this past weekend to shoot broadheads, because everything is else is just practice.

I will only be shooting broadheads until bow season is over so field point placement doesnt much matter to me I guess.

Let us know how they do when you stick something.

[6wapiti6]

Will do !!!!!!!!!!

[tailchaser]

I've shot dang near everthing on the market that claims to be a good broadhead. I've come to one conclusion, steelforce is by far the best. I used to be a diehard thunderhead man, but had to play with re-sighting in the bow every year but when I switched it was amazing. Not only do they have a huge cutting diameter, but they fly like my field points. I sniped a bull and a buck last year and had clean pass thru's on both. Neither went over 50 yards. When you start pushing speeds like I am at over 280 fps, the three blades just don't fly real well. Just my 2 cents.

tc

[MetalHead]

One word ThunderHead, if your broadheads and field points are not shooting to the same spots you have one of the following problems.
1. different FOC (forward of center) weight on your arrows. Broadheads vs field points
2. different arrow weights (not all broadheads weigh as advertized) Thunderhead 100gr. are actually 105grs. Also I weigh every arrow less point and have found differences of up to 28 gr. in a dozen arrows. All of my hunting arrows weigh within 3grains of each other or they dont go in the quiver.
3. Bow is not tuned properly
4. insuficent arrow spine

[Bait O' Eggs]

I agree also they should shoot the same, but they dont :-( I bought the bow a couple months ago and have been fiddling with it. From your list of items I have the following comments on my bow.

I have weighed my field points and they are indeed 100 grains give or take a grain. My broadheads (muzzy) are 105 grains give or take a grain or 2. This could be the culpret but 5 grains doesnt seem to be a lot but may be my problem.

I believe my bow is tuned properly.

I thought I may have too much spline on my arrows as I am shooting Beman 80/100 arrows. They are quite stiff and when cut down to a 26 inch draw they feel even stiffer.

I have not weighed my arrows. I assumed they would be closer tolerance than the field points. But it looks like I may be pulling out the scales again checking that.

I am kind of out of time now, and I have it sighted in for shooting broadheads and am pretty happy with my groups, though they could always be better. I will tinker more when season is over and I have plenty of time.

[6wapiti6]

It's almost september and that means hunting! Put the field points away and make sure your comfortable with what really matters. The broadheads. Field points are fine for practicing form and building muscle memory, but as long as the bow shoot the way you want it with what counts, thats all that matters.

[Crayfin]

I agree with Metalhead...they should dhoot in the same place. Sometimes you have to put alittle on or take a little off--but they should shoot in the same hole if everything is as it should be

[crabbait]

BOE - Finger or release "aid". Us finger s******* get a different first few feet of flight dynamics than the release boys do. What metakhead said was true, for release s*******.

Are you shooting an overdraw? I know you are not 6'2" but 26"? Your arrows are overspined. Not that big a deal with carbons. By the way, if you are shooting an overdraw the speed gain is negligible with carbons and there is a definite lack of "forgivingness" (for finger s*******).

As for broadheads, I don't think anyone has seriously improved on Zwickey 2-blades. Tough enough to practice with into a sandbox to make sure that the specific arrow/broadhead combination is perfect, then put an edge on them and shoot them through elk. I have a couple that have multiple kills on them. Try that with a replaceable blade.

[ 08-18-2002, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: crabbait ]

[Huntar]

Don't overlook the "wings" that the blades provide on a broadhead. The aerodynamics can be different, causing different flight paths. These differences will begin to show more the further downrange they go.

I just switched to Muzzy, due to the fact they have dull practice blades.