Dog abuse or a message?

[Bait O' Eggs]

My brother had a chocolate lab for years and it recently died of old age. He replaced him with a golden lab. A very pretty dog, and appears will be a very large dog. I dont think it has papers to hang on the wall but I may be wrong. It is not a hunting dog, but rather just a family dog.

The dog is less than a year old and is in need of some training. The dog has a tendancy to jump on people and run off to the neighbors when nobody is looking. I have heard the neighbors have been complaining to my brother to keep his dog home. My brother hasnt done anything about it and when his dog came home a couple days ago the dog had a big patch on his back shaved, and he was spray painted red on one side, and green on the other. :shocked: :shocked:

I am a huge dog lover, but found this to be very funny. My comment was, I guess he will learn to keep his dog home wont he. My brother is ticked and has called the sheriff and is pursuing his legal options against his neighbor.

They did nothing to the dog, that really hurt it, the paint is coming off fast, and the hair will grow back. :grin:

I cannot help myself, I find it very very funny. Am I wrong, or did the neighbors do something they shouldnt have done?

[Capin' Dan]

Well it is kinda funny and your brother will probably be laughing about it someday. If it was my dog it would be feuding time I thimk they could have just called the pound or the sheriff and yes, it is dog abuse. The dog wasn't whom was at fault. he is a young dog that does what dogs do and that is roam and scavage. He probably really likes the neighbors for some reason.
I can't see anybody doing this to a dog. That would be like someone doing this to one of my kids or in this case to a baby. What would it be like then. His neighbor would get strung up or at the least go to jail.

[blast and cast]

If one of my neighbors did this to my dog I would pursue leagal action and any "other" means of actions that I could. Since my neighbors around here have cats that can roam free without a care, I would trap them and take them to the pound. FYI this is legal, just use a live trap and take the cat to your local shelter. I doubt my neighbors are smart enough to go looking for there cat at the shelter, paybacks are a ______.

[Straydog]

Actually, I find it pretty humrous and think the neighbor handled it pretty well. Sounds to me like he had trid the nice way, telling your brother to keep his dog home. Your brother should be glad his dog came home at all.

I wonder at the reply that made the comparison of this and someones kid.

I would say that if after being told your kids were wandering the neighbors place unattended once, it would surely not happen again.

If this is not the case, you better stick to raising dogs, our juvie halls get enough traffic as it is.

[Straydog]

PS, sheeesh it just dawned on me my nickname is pretty appropriate this morning......

Please know, I have been taught not to wander and am getting pretty close to learning not to pee on the floor!! :grin:

[Spoons]

I am like you BOE I love dogs but I think this story is pretty funny.

If your brother contacts the sherrif isnt your brother admitting fault and asking for a citation with not keeping his dog contained or on a leash? I am sure the neighbors will receive a citation as well though.

Still that is hilarious!

[Bait O' Eggs]

Zen - I could tell brother stories all day. I even got a few "brother in law" ones to throw in.

I got a couple brothers and I need to be careful what I say, one of them reads the board from time to time, and would mail a copy of any stories to the other brother just to keep the family rivalry going on. I might discover my dog sporting a new hairstyle if I tell to many stories. :grin:

I only told this one because I cannot quit laughing about it. Guess you would have to know my brother to understand. He is big enough to change truck tires with no jack, and his neighbor who can only be 1/2 his size had the seeds to do this. :shocked:

I guess when you live in the country you dont think about having your dog tied up.

But you can be assured a stuffed dog with a shaved back and spray painted on each side, with a gallon of paint thinner will be under somebodies Christmas tree this year. :shocked:

[Dogfish]

My lab, Jenna, was sporting some paint last weekend, but it was self applied. She decided to rub up against the shed that I was painting. She got it on her sides, head, and even the tail. She hasn't figured out how to shave yet, though.

[Zen Leecher aka Bill W]

BOE,

Small guys with "seeds" beat big guys who don't know the rules. Your brother should learn the rules.

His dog could end up in the pound... and if he makes too strong of an issue with a "small guy with seeds" his dog could end up bailing him out of jail.

Another story... and this one ain't no $%^^#.

A shooting acquaintance of mine had a problem with a neighbors dog barking all the time.. all night long.

He got tired of it.

Dog was on this neighbors back porch barking away. Shooting "acquaintance" lined up on it with his .220 Swift.

Dog was quiet afterwards.

Dog was found on back porch with head blown off.

Shooting "acquaintance" was never arrested... and neighbors... guess they didn't talk much with him.

[WaterDog]

Let me start by saying I like dogs as well.

When I was a kid we deer hunted a family friends 10 acres. The property next door was another 40. The farmer with the 40 acres used to raise sheep and would allow us to hunt his place provided that if we came across a dog on his property we would shoot it. Domestic dogs constantly ran the sheep to exhaustion and the sheep would die. The farmer tried to talk to the dog owners but to no avail. “Our dog would never do that” was the story he got. Well he got real busy shooting the culprits. When he shot one he would put it on a fence post buy the road along with the sheep that were killed. Some he knew the owners and would simply call them to come get their dog, “It’s on the post by the driveway.” After a couple of years dogs quit running the sheep. Now before the do-gooders get to bent out of shape, because the dogs were running livestock they could be shot. That was affirmed by a few sheriffs that got called out only to tell the dog owners that he could site them because the county has a leash law and the owners were responsible for compensating the farmer for his losses. :shocked:

Bait your brother is lucky that all the dog got was a shave and some highlites.

Zen - :grin:

[HOGTIDE]

Ya,...I think if your brother has actually been asked several times to kennel his dog and it was still out, the neighbors just made a strong statement as to their feelings....without harming the dog.

I like a nice pup. But as a homeowner with kids, "Bad Pet Owners" can become a destructive nuisance.

A friend at work (the pet owner) just had a similar situation this past year. The only thing that returned to her was the dog's collar, which was found hanging from her deck railing. Kinda harsh awakening.

[bigshark]

Let me tell you a S.I. dog story that will make you wonder. A farmer went outside his house and the neighbors two rottweilers (sp)growled at him and slowly moved toward him. He backed against the house and could not move either way to get to a door. The dogs simply wouldn't let him move. He called to his wife for help, she was afraid to come out of the house, she was able to open a window a few feet from him. He told her to get his shotgun and load it. She did and pasted it out the window. He shot them both on the spot. This is his side of the story as he told it to us.
He could have shot into the ground etc. and raised
hell with the neighbor, but he didn't. I suppose he could have handled it a lot of ways, but he didn't. He said his granddaughter had run into the house when the dogs came visiting a few weeks before. They had growled at her. Enough was enough. What happened....? His neighbor convenced the D.A. that charges should and were pressed. I don,t know what they were but it cost him thousands in attorney fees. Oh yes, he can't have a gun in his home either. I don't know for how long or if its forever. BOE I suppose the story could be humerous. And Labs are not aggressive, at least my limited exposure to them suggests that. But the district attorney made life miserable for this friend of mine. If you ever go to San Juan Island visit the British fort were the
pigs got into the garden and very nearly started a war between to countries. Bill W. is right, your brother needs to think it through. Who knows that neighbor may take the dog hunting and the pooch might decide he rather live across the street forever. :grin: P.S. I still like to read your strories. My life has sure been dull compared to yours and I will always be glad you stood tall on those spot-lighters.

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[CAGEY]

Sorry but i dont find this to be a bit funny. Its a pure case of animal abuse which is against the law. I do not blame your brother for calling the law on these airheads. The dog is a victim of your brothers failure to train him how to behave. They should have spray painted your brother and maybe he would learn. I guess they could have done some real damage to the dog if they desired to do so and took the easy way out. They should have tied the dog up, called animal control and let your brother pay to get him back. :depressed:

[Zen Leecher aka Bill W]

I think the word your brother is searching for is "pen" and he needs to build one. If he's mad at someone, the person he should be mad at is himself for being irresponsible enough to let his dog run.

Now that we have the pleasantries over with...

Up here in civilized WA, dogs need to be under control... and not let to run off when no one's watching.. shoot.. your brother's dog probably isn't being watched for 23 hours of the day.

It usually costs a few $$ to retrieve a dog from the pound up here and that price usually totals up more than the price to remove paint off of dogs.

A guy up here had a problem with a loose dog and he shot it with an arrow. It ran home and died.

The owner was very negligent in the care of that dog and should have been cited.

The shooter was.

BOE, you always have these funny "brother" stories.... Is this brother the oddball in the family that no one invites to thanksgiving... or act's like Randy Quaid in some of the Chevy Chase movies, the oddball brother in law.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Sounds like a hell of an idea. I would love to do this to some of the cats running loose in the neighborhood (ie. my backyard ). I have two dogs, and I'd be a little peeved if someone did it to my dog. But then again, my dog doesn't run around the neighborhood like a ******** cat either. It would be one thing if he had tried multiple things and the dog kept escaping, but if he hasn't tried at all, I think he had it coming. Maybe they should have tied a note around his neck first, but ....

In my book, letting your dog run around like that is animal abuse in itself. That's how dogs get run over, etc. Not to mention getting in fights, knocking up the poodle down the street (thus contributing to overcrowding at the pound), getting shot at or poisoned for being a pest, chasing the neighbors prize lopeared bunnies or chickens, eating tainted something-or-others out of garbage cans, ......should we go on?

Tell your brother to put up a run, let the dog inside, or something. And bring him a can of paint stripper next time you visit.

[Starr]

I'm with Cagey, this isn't funny at all. If you think it's funny to torture or kill someone's pet, let's just say that you have some "issues" . There really are two problems here. The pet owners inability to control his dog, and the neighbors taking matters into their own hands. Just because the dog runs around and causes problems with the neighbors is no excuse to shave and paint it. Dogs will be dogs, people have to control them. The neighbors don't have "seeds" for doing this to the dog, but the opposite. I bet they will be (and should be) prossicuted.
The dog owner should be cited also.
Just some facts for the dog lovers out there;
#1 dog in the USA for biting people...Lab
Oregon is one of the only states with a livestock harassment law that immediatly sentences the animal to death.
If you think it's justifiable to kill the neighbors dog for barking all night, what ya going to do when the rowdy teenagers have a party and play music all night?

[Capin' Dan]

Straydog,
That comparision is that I really love my dogs and they are very much a part of my family. Harming one of my dogs is harming one of my family members. It is just wrong and someone should be punished for it. The dog did not know any better. They just love to be around people and people should return that love and devotion.

Dan!

[Straydog]

No argument here Dan.

I bet had you told your kids a few times to stay home in response to a neighbor complaining about them wandering on his yard, they would have stayed home.

I even bet you would have taken action to make sure your kids minded after the very first complaint.

If the dog owner's excuse is he loves his dog's as he does his kids (speaking of 'issues') then he should have shown that love and kept the dog's home.

If you feel it is ok for the dog and owner to ignore the rights of others, not to mention the law, you should not be raising kids or dogs.

That was my point.

[Hoosier Daddy]

OK, so I'm sick. I still think the neighbors response is funny. I DON'T think letting the dog to continue to run around is funny. And once again, someone explain how this actually hurt the dog? I mean come on, its a lab. Like it cares that it has a spot of hair missing and a little paint on it? What, the neighbor gave it a complex and now all the other dogs make fun of him? Come on. Considering other options taken by neighbors in these situations, he got off real easy. Hell, going to the pound is way more traumatic for a dog than getting this treatment. Not to mention the potential for getting shot, kicked, etc.

Sorry, I don't buy the "dogs will be dogs" argument. They will, but only if you LET them. And yes, if the neighbors teenagers ever dig up my roses and s**t in my flower beds, I will shave their heads and paint their a**es, if they're lucky.

The guy was asked to take care of the problem, and didn't. End of story.

[Zen Leecher aka Bill W]

Just a note to let all know I have started my 12 step program to not let BOE's family stories wind me up any more.

My goal is for the next time I hear one just say, "That's nice. Do the dog colors match your home decor" or, "hmmmm... maybe those poachers do that as they have families to feed"...

P.S. BOE, when you give your brother the stuffed dog christmas present this year, tell him it's from the neighbors.