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Old 03-25-2005, 07:51 PM   #1
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I was fishing a favorite coastal stream last wednesday and I hooked a nice steelhead came out to 21 lbs. after we bled it. What a fight. The broodstock are definitely in. What would make this steelhead so big? I realize genetics are a big factor but this fish is almost twice as big as any other steelhead I've caught. Any ideas?
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:35 PM   #2
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Wow, that is a BEAST
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:14 PM   #3
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Genetics and a extra year or two in the ocean!
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:02 PM   #4
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Wow, that's nice. Look at the tail on that thing...
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Old 03-26-2005, 01:39 AM   #5
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Check the color on that one...rainbow! :blush:
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Old 03-26-2005, 12:12 PM   #6
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Nice fish!

The fish may be a return spawner. That is, spawned (or at least came upriver with that idea in his head), then returned to the salt, and now on the second journey. (Who says a fish with a pea size brain can't keep his priorities right?). Or like Rank Amateur said - just stayed in that there ocean a couple more years.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:27 PM   #7
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looks like the one I released twice on tuesday below mills bridge....did he have 2 hook marks on the right top side of his mouth...?



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Old 03-26-2005, 05:12 PM   #8
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I dont believe its the same fish, I didn't see any other holes in its mouth, and it looks like your fish has more of an adipose than the one I landed. The fish in my picture was 34 inches long and had a pretty wide spanned tail. Under water its hard to see all of the features, color looks similar though. Do you have a picture of it above the water? The fish seemed full of energy too, it took me about 20 minutes to land him.
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:23 PM   #9
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We never removed it from the water....it was a broodstock fish also. Good Job....
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:38 PM   #10
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That was probably the most exciting fish fight of my life, and by far my largest steelhead. I wanted to take him home so I would never forget him, though I wish he could've spawned again too. Tough call. He is tasty though, grilled up some tonight and he was quite good. Maybe after I've caught few 20 lb fish it will be easier to release them. Who wouldn't want to see more of them in the river.
Looks like we might be neighbors, I live in Forest Grove too.
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:57 PM   #11
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I'm glad that wish didn't come true.
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:30 PM   #12
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Return spawners usually come back close to the same size that they were on their first spawning run.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:05 AM   #13
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Thats interesting, I wasn't aware of that. I assumed they would just get bigger every year.
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I would guess that it was a first year spawner since the great majority of 2 spawn fish are females. At 34" that fish must have had incredible girth to make 21 lbs...
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:26 AM   #15
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HUH? Tell that to the folks that are paying 10k to go fish Kamchatka for steelies where the average over half of their steelhead areon their second or better run
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Well done Adam. Great fish.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:08 PM   #17
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:04 PM   #18
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Return spawners usually come back close to the same size that they were on their first spawning run.
True, they use up so much of themselves that it takes a lot to get back to what they were.

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I would guess that it was a first year spawner since the great majority of 2 spawn fish are females.
True, the hens get it done and head back out but the bucks hang out looking for the ladies and end up spening too much time in stream.

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HUH? Tell that to the folks that are paying 10k to go fish Kamchatka for steelies where the average over half of their steelhead areon their second or better run
Maybe it's because the natives in Russia can kill seals They may also have some shorter river systems so they can get back to sea quicker/easier. The fish on our smaller coastal rivers have a much higher returning success rate too.

From the pic it looks like a first time spawning. Many times if they are repeat spawners you can see healed fin/tail erosion on them.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:27 PM   #19
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Dave, always words of wisdom from the man. I guess I always fell for the urban myth that things get bigger the older they get. I know I have :grin:
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:51 PM   #20
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Now THATS a biggun
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