Last peace of Americana heads for China

[GOT2FISH]

Just heard Radio Flyer is headed to china the company says its the only way they can compete. 12 jobs will be lost but the sad part is the memories many of us have of this great little wagon. Do we build anything here any more. :whazzup:

[crabbait]

Oh yes. we are still the greatest producers of weapons in the world. Especially, weapons of mass destruction.

Death and destruction is our business and business is good.

[Joe Schwab]

Crabbait, I think the farmers of this great country would take exception to your views.

As well as some of the finest boat builders, home construction, artists, musicians, aircraft designers and assemblers, just to name a few.

It is one thing to produce weapons of mass destruction. It is another thing to use them to keep the world at bay from people who would love to end democracy and the freedom we have.

[Fast Water]

Do we build anything here any more. :whazzup:

I hear ya Got2Fish. :depressed:

You would think that we would be throughly disillusioned and desensitized to current manufacturing practices by now, but every once in a while something will come along that will get under your skin and burn for a bit.

Several years ago, I purchased a Revereware tea kettle for my wife. It was a nice limited edition model with a nice relief on the side of Paul Revere (IIRC) and some dates denoting the passage of some anniversary of the company or country.

I was kind of please with the purchase in some small manner but it was not long lived as I noticed the place of origin on the box as I was throwing it away.

<font color="green">Revere®
Tracing its heritage back to American patriot Paul Revere, Revere today is the number one brand of stainless steel cookware in the U.S. Recognized by consumers for its legendary quality and durability, Revere has expanded beyond its stainless steel and copper roots to include new shapes, materials and functionality. </font>

Uh huh.....not a lie of course....

Made in E Asia somewhere. :depressed:

[2LEYS]

Once again crabbait turns a topic into a Bush bash.

[Thumper]

But at least it's not political. ( Thumper )

[TheRogue]

Once again crabbait turns a topic into a Bush bash.

Now where did you come up with that?? A tad paranoid, are we? Do you deny we're the single biggest military war machine on the planet, with the largest amount of WMD imaginable??

TR

[Straydog]

Once again crabbait turns a topic into a Bush bash.

So much for accuracy in finger pointing.

I read CB's post several times and can't even find word "Bush" or "liar" or "friend of big money" or "foe of middle class" or anything like that which would relate to the current President! :whazzup:

The military industrial complex has been building for decades through many administrations. I guess in your willingness to make this a Bush attack, you overlooked these little details.

As far as producing weapons to protect ourselves, dosen't it bother people even a little bit that we are "forced" to protect ourselves from people with weapons that, in many cases, we built and sold to the "enemy"?????

"It's a big ol goofy world............"
John Prine

[garyk]

The sad fact is America produces more weaponary than the rest of the world combined.

And these weapons are used. We make them well, we make them cheap and we make them for mass export - and we're the world's biggest exporter. You'll find American military goods in every one of the world's trouble spots and flashpoints - likely on both sides. The flood of weapons, of which ours are the majority, contributes to world-wide insecurity. Remember, it was we who armed the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

It goes beyond who's in office. We've been on this military-industrial path since the 1950's and the result is an economy based largely on war and destruction.

Former president and general Eisenhower was right. Too bad more of us didn't heed the warning.

[Hoosier Daddy]

I saw no mention or implication of Bush in the post. And if I can't find it there, NO ONE CAN!! :grin:

[Pilar]

GaryK, Scud missiles are made in N. Korea, 'T' series tanks were made in what used to be the USSR. Much of the 'pesticide' and 'chemical' production capacity in Iraq was German engineered and installed. I think they helped with Saddam's military buildup too.

[garyk]

Pilar, yes that is correct. However, I never said 'exclusive'. We've just become the volume dealer to the world.

[Degner]

Too bad we can't export our meth labs to china.

[2LEYS]

It was a stab at Bush. If you don't take it that way that is fine. I saw it that way.

A post says radio flyer heads for China and weapons get brought up. It was a Bush bash plain and simple.

[Big TULE]

WOW... So how does the fact that we are the largest producer of WMD have anything to do with Bush???

[2LEYS]

How does it have anything to do with radio flyer?

[GOT2FISH]

Capt Hook Correct me if I'm wrong but I belive even Boing one of the greats as far as I'm concerned is importing preassembeled parts for the 777 from Mexico China Pakastan Tiwan and Japan.

[2LEYS]

It is a shame though that so many of our products come from overseas. It is a wonder any of us have jobs.

Thank you NAFTA. It is probably only going to get worse.

[Joe Schwab]

And? Ford, Chevrolet, Chrysler and on and on. This is a global economy in case you haven't noticed lately. We still assemble some things. I don't look for the collapse of America because Radio Flyer went south.

[GOT2FISH]

I know its not the collapse of america I heard it on the news and got a nestalgic. Radio Flyer and Levis have always seemed to me to be as american as base ball chevrolet and apple pie. I guess I cant complain theres still 2 out of three left.

[happybrew]

I recall seeing an article about the Etch-a-Sketch being made elsewhere also. It seems to me that they're going for the emotional tug of our childhood toys as a way to argue against global trade.

Remember back in the 80's and early 90's, when the big thing in the media was trade with Japan? I was laughing my head off over that one! The dollar was weak. We were getting the stuff, whose value is inherent, in exchange for dollars, the value of which was declining. The Japanese, flush with so many dollars and no place to put them, invested them back in America, buying things like Rockafeller Center, misc. real estate, and some corporations. Now think of where the stuff went: From Japan to the U.S. Now think of where the dollars went: From the U.S. to Japan in exchange for stuff, then from Japan back to the U.S! So the stuff came here, and never went back. The dollars went there, only to come right back here! We win on both counts, and all the Japanese end up with is overvalued Tokyo realestate, and pieces of paper entitling them to corporations whose value was declining, and more dollars, which they have little choice but to reinvest here because our economy is better! We win all the way around, Japan is slightly to the wrong side of losing. And the media did nothing but complain about the situation! I thought it was great!

happybrew

[monoman]

Before you guys cry over your little red wagon, where were those rods made that you wanted such a good deal on....or your reel, hooks? We cry over job lose, yet we post of great buys on rods made anywhere but here! We have forced our little red wagon to China, we the poeple who shop at WalMart.

[GOT2FISH]

For the longest time I tried to only by American Made goods but guess what the option has almost disapeared. And your right about the rods and reals and hooks but what can you do the american made rods are beond my price range and hopefully that will change. But it just confusses me how we send so much out of country but bulid Toyotas and Hondas here. Looks to me like its a one way deal.This is a complicated matter but theres an old saying its the KISS theroy you know [keep it simple stupid].If you can remeber back to the late 60s early 70s one of the things that woke up San Jose was the war in Veitnam FMC was hiring like a big dog and had three full shifts building tanks. God I would hate to see that happen agian.